The future of Soul Calibur

[damn-I-Suck]

tekken has always sold better than SC, I don't it's bias so much as it is business. Of course they're going to favor and put more resources into a game that gets them more $

Well shit they already did street fight VS tekken,

IMO Tekken Vs SC would be more appropriate for 2 reasons:
1, they're both 3d games
2, they're both made by namco

^I would SOO buy it if they made that shit!

 

[Sett]

Grr I hate mixing franchises. Soul Calibur should just make a game called Soul Calibur legends, half the cast is Soul Calibur the other half is gaming legends, get your Sethiroths, your Grey Foxes, your Dentes, your Soul Reavers, your Ezios, I dunno Master Cheifs.

Would cost a bomb to make but the fan boys will flood it and raise awareness for Soul Calibur in general for when they make another game with no guests.

 

[Solo]

Grr I hate mixing franchises. Soul Calibur should just make a game called Soul Calibur legends, half the cast is Soul Calibur the other half is gaming legends, get your Sethiroths, your Grey Foxes, your Dentes, your Soul Reavers, your Ezios, I dunno Master Cheifs.

Would cost a bomb to make but the fan boys will flood it and raise awareness for Soul Calibur in general for when they make another game with no guests.

If they did that then there would be even more people crying over nostalgia than ever before. I wish I could have counted the people that say "I want Link back in SCV! No Link, no buy!"

Also...

Spoiler

 

[Sett]

Fuck

 

[MIZIEYA]

What about Namco is there not to blame?

I believe my core point IS: both sides are to blame...

Does anyone think that soul calibur 5 will be the last game?

 

[DevilsDisguise]

I believe my core point IS: both sides are to blame...

Project soul, I hate you for ruining the roster and remaining characters.
Namco, I hate you for everything else.

Does anyone think that soul calibur 5 will be the last game?

The backlash is still flowing and it only seems reinvigorated widely since they stopped caring. Its very likely, I think Namco had said that PS wasn't together right now which is why they haven't done anything for this past while. They're probably overwhelmed by all the hate theyre getting for a game we begged them to make. Now they're embarrassed because they had to fight namco just to get permission to make it in the first place. Namco had intended to give up on the series for a long time after 4 was done. That seems to be going on a lot these days. One side gets all the blame while the other holds no responsibility whatsoever.

 

[Reave]

I love SC5 :)

 

[JustinAkatsuki]

Does anyone think that soul calibur 5 will be the last game?

I hope not. Because project soul needs to finish what they started.....

 

[Ramus]

Do you guys really believe that Soul Calibur IV was meant to be the last game?? O.o
Ok....Now why they would stop making a game that it is like, one of the most famous franchise???
I just think it is really silly saying, that we begged when they mostly likely already had plans, things saying like it is the last game..is more like publicity.

 

[DevilsDisguise]

Do you guys really believe that Soul Calibur IV was meant to be the last game?? O.o
Ok....Now why they would stop making a game that it is like, one of the most famous franchise??? I just think it is really silly saying, that we begged when they mostly likely already had plans, things saying like it is the last game..is more like publicity.

I think you need to go back and reread how SCV was concieved.

 

[Ramus]

I think you need to go back and reread how SCV was concieved.

Do you mean the petition??
I don't believe it was the reason, don't make much sense, even if it was, it is not a excuse to do a "inferior" game (It is not bad) and it was rushed.....frst time as director.....I hate to say but, I find rather disrespectful, to the fans doing this,
not blaming anyone, I just saying, if Soul Calibur want to have a future, them give the game a reason to have a future, don't expect to us fans, just take anything they throws at us with a smile, and this is happening a lot, great game series doing half done jobs, Resident Evil 5 and Final Fantasy XIII are great examples,

 

[jtdam09]

Does anyone think that soul calibur 5 will be the last game?

Probably not, but I'm sure they'll be in a LONNGG hiatus. They need to be anyways.

 

[DevilsDisguise]

Probably not, but I'm sure they'll be in a LONNGG hiatus. They need to be anyways.

I hope not. Because project soul needs to finish what they started.....

Lately namco bandai has been screwing up big time. 1st it was the stupid addition of the awkward knockdown in tekken 6; then the useless game called street fighter x tekken that was done with capcom and now this mess that has been done to soul calibur 5. Seeing the trend of how bad your games are becoming; they give us satisfaction for THIS game. This game that was once great is now an utter disappointment. Its so bad that the number of people playing tekken 6 are more than the number of people playing soul calibur 5. The only redeeming quality it had was an awesome yet limited character creator.

Do you mean the petition??
I don't believe it was the reason, don't make much sense, even if it was, it is not a excuse to do a "inferior" game (It is not bad) and it was rushed.....frst time as director.....I hate to say but, I find rather disrespectful, to the fans doing this,not blaming anyone, I just saying, if Soul Calibur want to have a future, then give the game a reason to have a future, don't expect to us fans, just take anything they throws at us with a smile, and this is happening a lot, great game series doing half done jobs, Resident Evil 5 and Final Fantasy XIII are great examples,

They didnt do these things on purpose, they even said themselves they didn't plan to continue the series. It was obvious then SC4 was where Namco gave up on the series but flattered by all the fans wanting more they considered it. Then they changed their group logo. They wanted to make this game the best in the series bit made poor miscaculations and Namco hindered their flexability. Not once has Project soul ever tried to cheat the fanbase on purpose with malicious intents, they're just slaves to their larger then life invisionments not cooperating with their limitations. The fans are the disrespectful ones here blaming them as if they cheated us for money. PS made mistakes that Harada has grown beyond but Namco isnt allowing the series to work from them and improve it. I mean as it is SC5 has been publically praised well and has gotten the most mainstream attention in the series, its just a shame it couldn't live up to the publicity's praise. SC5 has a future and a lot of untouched oppotunities its just not valued the same way as Tekken is for who-knows-why. Its on parellel to Capcom's view on Megaman/DMC but not as bad. I want them to rerelease the game based upon what they were GOING to do. The world had moved on, my exectations had changed for harshness or for forgiveness..

 

[taffertier]

I dont think this is the last Soul Calibur, i've heard this being said for a while now. It may have just been rumors but apparently SC4 was supposed to be the last installment. Same with DOA4. And for many years people thought there would never be a sequel to MVC2. For quite a while people believed fighting games were dead period, but as long as we show support there's a chance.I think so long has fighting games retain a certain degree of popularity there will always be hope for more of the series we love.

 

[jtdam09]

tekken has always sold better than SC, I don't it's bias so much as it is business. Of course they're going to favor and put more resources into a game that gets them more $

That may be true, but in the past, both had been hand and hand as being two excellent games, and noting their differentiation (weapon and hand-to-hand), there was never competition amongst each other, but I guess things have changed since then.

 

[DevilsDisguise]

I can definitely see where you're coming from, there. Personally, I probably would have liked to see SC come up with it's own innovations rather than borrow from others, but it really does come together in a really unique way due to the 3d graphics and all. It definitely doesn't "feel" like Street Fighter even if the concept was borrowed, if you know what I mean.

Its also not too late to improve the graphics. SC5 has pretty good imagry but compared to other games it could use more realistic modeling and a more solid-look..Maybe its the lighting, or the wet-look of the skin but something to make them look less like dolls and more like potentially real people.

I felt the graphics were worth mentioning, but honestly, graphics don’t matter to me. I mean, I can appreciate nice graphics when I see them, it won’t have an effect but with the money Namco's giving them I doubt even that would be realized.

 

[jtdam09]

Its also not too late to improve the graphics. SC5 has pretty good imagry but compared to other games it could use more realistic modeling and a more solid-look..Maybe its the lighting, or the wet-look of the skin but something to make them look less like dolls and more like potentially real people.

but with the money Namco's giving them I doubt even that would be realized.

For SC, that is too high of an expectation, and lack of money that PS doesn't have. If anything, the gameplay renders should be...less anime, and more realism.

 

[DevilsDisguise]

The clothing is not too bad though. It's the facial structure, especially Leixia's, to the point that she doesn't even look remotely Asian. Natsu has it somewhat. Pyrrha's does have that anime-esque facial structure, but I can admit that they did pretty good with her rendering. The graphics themselves are fine. Of course better lighting but what they did for SCV was not bad.Better than DOA2-4 that's for sure. DOA5's is a much better improvement.

For SC, that is too high of an expectation, and lack of money that PS doesn't have. If anything, the gameplay renders should be...less anime, and more realism.

Yeah, I remeber that arument. I really hate Lexia's Face. I see nothing Chinese, the same conspiricy with the Koreans. The irony hurts cause the developers are asian themselves. They did Zas perfectly at the least. Of course, I'd be spoiling my hopes thinking that they would bother but at most they should make the characters look like the races the represent.

 

[jtdam09]

Of course, I'd be spoiling my hopes thinking that they would bother.

The clothing is not too bad though. It's the facial structure, especially Leixia's, to the point that she doesn't even look remotely Asian. Natsu has it somewhat. Pyrrha's does have that anime facial structure, but I can admit that they did pretty good with her rendering. The environment is fine. Of course better lighting but what they did for SCV was not bad.

Better than the faces of DOA2-4 that's for sure. DOA5's is a much better improvement.

 

[Ramus]

They didnt do these things on purpose, they even said themselves they werent planning to continue the series but flattered by all the fans wanting more they considered it. Then they changed their group logo. They wanted to make this game the best in the series bit made poor miscaculations and Namco hindered their flexability. Not once has Project soul ever tried to cheat the fanbase on purpose with malicious intents, they're just slaves to their larger then life invisionments not cooperating with their limitations. The fans are the disrespectful ones here blaming them as if they cheated us for money. PS made mistakes that Harada has grown beyond but Namco isnt allowing the series to work from them and improve it. I mean as it is SC5 has been publically praised well and has gotten the most mainstream attention in the series, its just a shame it couldn't live up to the publicity's praise. SC5 has a future and a lot of untouched oppotunities its just not valued the same way as Tekken is for who-knows-why. Its on parellel to Capcom's view on Megaman/DMC but not as bad.

You know, you put much malice in my post, I never said they cheated on us or anythin, but I don't see why we should praise the game, Namco may have give then a narrow passage, the game was rushed and inexperienced may have weakened the final game. Don't get me wrong, I like the game, but I will not say, "Luck us, we have a half done game, and we should be happy cuz, it was made to fans." If you ask me, "SC IV it was the last Soul Calibur game" it is a lie, no matter how you look Soul Calibur BD was a diferrent game, the Soul Gaugen clothes break and some others things were changed, every char had a new move and exclusive modes, why Tekken have respect??? Because Namco give them chances, cuz Namco play safe with Tekken, Tekken don't give up on half roster, no matter how many clones they have. I am not saying Tekken is a better game.