Whiffs if they tech. I have tried to find a follow-up but aside from 2B or 2B there doesn't seem to be one ;_;
Viola Combo & Tech Trap Discussion
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Whiffs if they tech. I have tried to find a follow-up but aside from 2B or 2B there doesn't seem to be one ;_;
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
66K BE is a great guard break, but it's so easily seen. On guard, you can do 6B+K 6B/2A combos, on hit 66B/2B+K, etc.
bushindu
[11] Champion
Yeah I know that but just wondered if others knew
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
You can also do 2B+K after 2(A+B) on hit, can't you?
Ragnarok_F4
[08] Mercenary
Hi there! New in the forums!
Got a question. What do you think about using a 3rd bar to extend viola's combos? I mean, if u use:
44A > B > BE > 6(B+K) (on the second hit of orb) > 6B > 3B > 66 > A > A > B > 6(A+B) (with brief delay) > 2(B+K) > BE > 66 > A > A > B > 2(A+B) > 2(B+K) > BE > 66 > A > A > B > 66B > 66(A+B) > B
you manage to land about 150~160 dmg, but if you stop at 2(B+K), you landed like 120~135 of dmg.
So you can prepare some resets after that and saved 1 bar. Then the next time you land a good blow you can deal more damage with that bar.
What's better deal more dmg in one combo or to save and wait (i think that depends on the match though).
Got a question. What do you think about using a 3rd bar to extend viola's combos? I mean, if u use:
44A > B > BE > 6(B+K) (on the second hit of orb) > 6B > 3B > 66 > A > A > B > 6(A+B) (with brief delay) > 2(B+K) > BE > 66 > A > A > B > 2(A+B) > 2(B+K) > BE > 66 > A > A > B > 66B > 66(A+B) > B
you manage to land about 150~160 dmg, but if you stop at 2(B+K), you landed like 120~135 of dmg.
So you can prepare some resets after that and saved 1 bar. Then the next time you land a good blow you can deal more damage with that bar.
What's better deal more dmg in one combo or to save and wait (i think that depends on the match though).
Ninjaguy446
[14] Master
Welcome to the forums! I'm sorry, but it took me awhile to try to decipher what you wrote. you don't have to use >. Instead, you can write,
44A,B BE, 6B+K, 6B, 3B, 66, AAB, 6A+B(delay), 2B+K BE, 66, AAB, 2A+B, 2B+K BE, 66, AAB, 66B, 66A+B, B
And as for your question, many people already do that for 44AB BE combos.
Ragnarok_F4
[08] Mercenary
Ah ok thnx for the info! I'm accustomed using ">" for other fightings, so I'll change it here.
About the combo, isn't it better not doing the 3rd BE? I prefer to save that bar and use it in another combo or GI, than spend it on 20~30 more dmg on the combo.
About the combo, isn't it better not doing the 3rd BE? I prefer to save that bar and use it in another combo or GI, than spend it on 20~30 more dmg on the combo.
taffertier
[10] Knight
It is entirely preference i believe. Some people like going for max damage. Capitalizing as much as possible on an opportunity. Others prefer to save the meter for a reset or a GI should the situation arise. I dont know if there is an "optimal" way to go about managing meter for Viola. Surely a 44A BE into a reset for another 44A BE would be ideal and ultimately more damage. But lets say you're in a situation where if you spend the meter to extend the combo it will put them at low enough life to get a single poke in and kill them. You could do that, or you could opt to save the meter completely and try and finish them off without spending it.
And in Viola's case ending a combo without going for maximum damage is not a bad thing. Because Viola can choose to end her combos in such a way that it will leave her in a position to force her rather amazing Oki, so it's really a toss up i would say. You can choose to end for max damage, or go into her crazy 6B+K Oki game. Also try for a ring out, but that is more situational.
Personally i dont like spending meter on 2B+K BEs unless it will kill them / lead into a kill, lead into a ring out, or if i have a lot of meter stored up and can afford to spend it freely.
Ragnarok_F4
[08] Mercenary
Yeah! I think the same way. I guess that practice is more than necessary to identify when its better to go for a reset, tech trap, etc, or to deal more dmg in one combo.
bushindu
[11] Champion
lol I should really take my own advice, but also it does depend on the player
Karrdein
[08] Mercenary
thanks for the help
bushindu
[11] Champion
6k, timed with full charge 6A+B, for the floor slide thing
DoomHasYou
[08] Mercenary
What about CH 6AB B+K(BE) combo starter? Is it possible?
bushindu
[11] Champion
yeah lol its been mentioned here like a good 10 times I think,
yup from that you can go into
either asap 6B+K AAB etc
or 66B 66A+B
um not sure if its air controllable, people say yes but they still get caught by it lol 6B+K do it so only the second hit catches
6A+B charged to get floor slide stun
2A+B let them fall a bit before, to get floor stun
yup from that you can go into
either asap 6B+K AAB etc
or 66B 66A+B
um not sure if its air controllable, people say yes but they still get caught by it lol 6B+K do it so only the second hit catches
6A+B charged to get floor slide stun
2A+B let them fall a bit before, to get floor stun
bushindu
[11] Champion
lol that doesnt take practice, 6A+B B+K BE does
bushindu
[11] Champion
not sure if it guranteed, but with a charged one few people with block, a
just back sure its only the orb that hits.
lol I love 4B orb, 2B+K B+K BE on back tech hehe fly bitch
just back sure its only the orb that hits.
lol I love 4B orb, 2B+K B+K BE on back tech hehe fly bitch
JDub
Mmm. Pie.
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bushindu
[11] Champion
not to mention it catches steppers as well lol