Tiamat
[11] Champion
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sounds good Silent, maybe you can teach me something good vs Yoda
sounds good Silent, maybe you can teach me something good vs Yoda
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LAU
[09] Warrior
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i don't know why you're even considering doing ANY high moves against yoda....
just DON'T do high moves.
-LAU
i don't know why you're even considering doing ANY high moves against yoda....
just DON'T do high moves.
-LAU
SilentWall
[10] Knight
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Because it hits surprisingly and it is fun to see. =D
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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that is a good reason! XD also will hit his jump moves and not as likely to be GI/auto-GIed
that is a good reason! XD also will hit his jump moves and not as likely to be GI/auto-GIed
SilentWall
[10] Knight
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O... cool.... I didn't think about that.
LAU
[09] Warrior
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then be sure to use more 8+A because it's fun to see anybody get hit by that
-LAU
then be sure to use more 8+A because it's fun to see anybody get hit by that
-LAU
LGInfinite
[09] Warrior
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Yoda jumps during his AA and BB so maybe 7A might be useful. LOL.
Yoda jumps during his AA and BB so maybe 7A might be useful. LOL.
xGHOSTxdog
[08] Mercenary
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THANKS!...Ive been working on my anti-IVY trying to find what works. FC 3B hits pretty consistently for me when she 214 the timing is strict =(
THANKS!...Ive been working on my anti-IVY trying to find what works. FC 3B hits pretty consistently for me when she 214 the timing is strict =(
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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FC 3B annoys me because the attack throw fails a lot when used as a ranged punish
if you don't feel you can do 33B, try to do 6B:B. you can just hold 6 then do it, so it's easier provided you can do the JF
FC 3B annoys me because the attack throw fails a lot when used as a ranged punish
if you don't feel you can do 33B, try to do 6B:B. you can just hold 6 then do it, so it's easier provided you can do the JF
Thermidor
[10] Knight
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I can't fight Ivy's and Amy's for my life.
I can't fight Ivy's and Amy's for my life.
LAU
[09] Warrior
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FC 3B without attack throw is still good... the range on that move is incredible
and the TC is extremely consistent unlike how iWS fails you... FC3B never does
-LAU
FC 3B without attack throw is still good... the range on that move is incredible
and the TC is extremely consistent unlike how iWS fails you... FC3B never does
-LAU
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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For punishing purposes I'd rather take 6B:B than FC 3B unless I'm sure I'll get the attack throw. The damage is about the same but FC 3B far hit not going to attack throw cuts the damage in half and you get neg frames instead of knockdown.
For punishing purposes I'd rather take 6B:B than FC 3B unless I'm sure I'll get the attack throw. The damage is about the same but FC 3B far hit not going to attack throw cuts the damage in half and you get neg frames instead of knockdown.
LAU
[09] Warrior
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the use of FC 3B/6B:B is just different imo
-LAU
the use of FC 3B/6B:B is just different imo
-LAU
ShenRii
[09] Warrior
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If it's punishing, I guess it all depends. 6B:B is slower than FC 3B after all.
IIRC, Kilik's 8WR 2_8AA, only FC 3Bable if blocked at mid range onwards.
FC 3B at tip without the AT throw isn't that bad really.
If it's punishing, I guess it all depends. 6B:B is slower than FC 3B after all.
IIRC, Kilik's 8WR 2_8AA, only FC 3Bable if blocked at mid range onwards.
FC 3B at tip without the AT throw isn't that bad really.
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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yeah stuff like kilik 22AAA, mitsu 66BB, ivy 214B, etc
FC 3B tip hit is much worse than 6B:B at the same range. you want 20 dmg neg on hit or 40 dmg knockdown?
FC 3B is pretty crap for block punish. WR B and 6B:B/33B better almost all the time. FC 3B only use is to be a random strong TC move
yeah stuff like kilik 22AAA, mitsu 66BB, ivy 214B, etc
FC 3B tip hit is much worse than 6B:B at the same range. you want 20 dmg neg on hit or 40 dmg knockdown?
FC 3B is pretty crap for block punish. WR B and 6B:B/33B better almost all the time. FC 3B only use is to be a random strong TC move
Greven
[09] Warrior
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hint vs raph:
GS A beat every moves when going to prep (3, 4, 6B)
And if u feel manly, u can use A+B. Doesnt counter every moves, but sometimes its good to flash a bit.
hint vs raph:
GS A beat every moves when going to prep (3, 4, 6B)
And if u feel manly, u can use A+B. Doesnt counter every moves, but sometimes its good to flash a bit.
eltoshan
[09] Warrior
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Against Raph you just gotta step G a lot, he just have really really lame anti step options, stance or not.
Against Raph you just gotta step G a lot, he just have really really lame anti step options, stance or not.
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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step G loses to SEA which does strong CF damage and is + on block into prep pressure again. WS A is good anti step cause of range/safety/block pushback
step G loses to SEA which does strong CF damage and is + on block into prep pressure again. WS A is good anti step cause of range/safety/block pushback
MAILBOXARSON99
[09] Warrior
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Hey Tiamat, in your matchup chart you put Nightmare vs Algol as 5:5. I don't understand how Nightmare even stands a chance in this matchup. I fought about ten or so matches with Zedonius/simseeker the other day offline, and I couldn't get through bubbleshield with Nightmare. 3A+B and 3B were all I could get to connect, and even so, the damage I received in the process made the 3B at tiprange virtually meaningless. I tried 6B, but it was pretty much useless. Once I got in close range, Grim Stride got locked down, 1[A] got interrupted, and even Night Side Stance proved to be a waste of time, because the damage I ended up eating for guessing wrong was greater than the damage I could deal to Algol. Really all I could do was throw, 1K, 3K, 4K, and 11K. imo, this matchup is rape. Any advice on dealing with bubbleshield with Nightmare?
Hey Tiamat, in your matchup chart you put Nightmare vs Algol as 5:5. I don't understand how Nightmare even stands a chance in this matchup. I fought about ten or so matches with Zedonius/simseeker the other day offline, and I couldn't get through bubbleshield with Nightmare. 3A+B and 3B were all I could get to connect, and even so, the damage I received in the process made the 3B at tiprange virtually meaningless. I tried 6B, but it was pretty much useless. Once I got in close range, Grim Stride got locked down, 1[A] got interrupted, and even Night Side Stance proved to be a waste of time, because the damage I ended up eating for guessing wrong was greater than the damage I could deal to Algol. Really all I could do was throw, 1K, 3K, 4K, and 11K. imo, this matchup is rape. Any advice on dealing with bubbleshield with Nightmare?
Tiamat
[11] Champion
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BEHOLD:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B0E8E17AA63D0D83
summary: 33B trade with bubbles gives you better combo. A+B/GS A+B can be activated by bubbles. 11B and agA are decent. GS A can sometimes auto GI bubbles as well
I didn't know at the time, but 8(delay)8B is super good vs Algol as well because it goes around all his bubbles and he can't punish it well on block
BEHOLD:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B0E8E17AA63D0D83
summary: 33B trade with bubbles gives you better combo. A+B/GS A+B can be activated by bubbles. 11B and agA are decent. GS A can sometimes auto GI bubbles as well
I didn't know at the time, but 8(delay)8B is super good vs Algol as well because it goes around all his bubbles and he can't punish it well on block