DEVASTATION 2k11 Results and shout outs!

DrDogg said:
I want to apologize for taking so long to post in this thread. DEV was super stressful for me this year (due to a plethora of issues out of our hands) and I'm just now coming out of the post-DEV coma. I will have full results posted by the end of the weekend at the latest. With that said...

Congrats to EVERYONE who attended the DEV SC4 tournament. I think it was the most talented gathering of SC players since the last time SC was at Evo. I was really happy to see all the names when I was building the bracket, and I think this was the largest SC tournament that has occurred in years.

Big ups to lolo (YOSHI!), NFK and RTD, as well as everyone else who made top 8 or got very close. In this tournament, making top 8 is harder than winning many other tournaments, so congrats to all of you.

Let me address a couple of issues that I've seen in this thread. I haven't read through the whole thing, so if I missed anything that needs to be explained/commented on, please let me know.

RTD / Bracket Issues

With the current size of DEV, we have to rely quite a bit on volunteers to run brackets. The Soul Calibur tournament had roughly 80 entrants, which is amazing, but MvC and AE had nearly 400 each. Due to the sheer size of the other tournaments, most of our experienced bracket runners were pulled to handle the Capcom fighters. On finals day, we were simply shorthanded, so again, SC ended up with someone less experienced than we would have liked.

There's no way that I can go back and correct the issue that happened between RTD and NFK, and I truly apologize because I feel RTD was in a good position to win, or at least take second before all of this happened. All I can do is assure everyone that in the upcoming years we'll do more bracket training in an effort to give our volunteers more experience with brackets. If any of you would like to volunteer to run brackets next year, I'm all for that.

Bracket Reset in Top 8

Looking at the competition in every game at DEV this year, the top 8 had a long road littered with talented players. Just making it to the top 8 was a feat comparable to winning many recent tournaments. What we wanted to do was treat the top 8 as a separate tournament. This allows the best of the best to truly show how good they are compared to the other great players at the event.

Yes, anyone who qualified in loser's may potentially get an extra loss. But to compensate, the winner's from pool play get better seeding in the top 8. No one had any issue with this when the thread was created several months ago. It's not all that different from other tournaments running 3/5 the entire top 8. It forces the players to prove that they deserve every win, and it gives the spectators more high level SC to watch.

However, if anyone had an issue with this, it wouldn't have been difficult to go with a standard tournament format. This is honestly the first I've heard anyone complain about it.

Suggestions for DEV 2012

DEV has tried to support the SC community as much as possible over the last few years. Next year we will have SC5 and it should be amazing. If anyone has any feedback or suggestions for next year, I'd be happy to hear it; either in this thread or via PM. If you have negative feedback, please offer a reasonable solution to the problem. It's easy to complain about something, but not very easy to provide a proper solution.

Again, I want to thank EVERYONE who came out for DEV 2011. I think it was an epic SC tournament to say the least.
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I think just about everyone appreciates the support and will continue to support Dev. Honestly, my biggest complaint was the bracket reset. Not so much the idea because it is good, but there being no reward for qualifying through winner's is something I can't. Get behind. I tossed the idea across JediRobb (though his mind may have been in another place) but what I was thinking was that someone from loser's that plays against someone who qualed through winner's hould have to win 2 out of three sets in order to advance or, at the very least, if you play someone you previously beat in the tournament, they have to win two sets in order to advance (pretty sure that's how MLG Tekken did it).
 
LostProvidence said:
Yeah...none of you care but I figured I'd follow-up since I did share it to begin with. Either way, my dog's not going to make it; she just stopped eating altogether and lost about 15 pounds over the last two weeks. Supposedly, she defecated blood also. My mother's on the way to vet with her now. Crazy first year back.
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That's heartbreaking, man. I'm a dog person myself, and rarely does a day go by that I don't think about one of the dogs I've had over the years. They seriously become like family to you, and I'm really sorry to hear this.
 
LostProvidence said:
I think just about everyone appreciates the support and will continue to support Dev. Honestly, my biggest complaint was the bracket reset. Not so much the idea because it is good, but there being no reward for qualifying through winner's is something I can't. Get behind. I tossed the idea across JediRobb (though his mind may have been in another place) but what I was thinking was that someone from loser's that plays against someone who qualed through winner's hould have to win 2 out of three sets in order to advance or, at the very least, if you play someone you previously beat in the tournament, they have to win two sets in order to advance (pretty sure that's how MLG Tekken did it).
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Well Dr Dogg explained that the folks who advanced in winners from the pools do have an advantage. In the top 8 bracket, the winners are made to play a person who advanced in losers from the pools. That's why you (winners) played me (losers), RTD (winners) played Omega (losers), etc.
 
KrayzieCD said:
Well Dr Dogg explained that the folks who advanced in winners from the pools do have an advantage. In the top 8 bracket, the winners are made to play a person who advanced in losers from the pools. That's why you (winners) played me (losers), RTD (winners) played Omega (losers), etc.
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Still, like Dr. Dogg also said, at that point, everybody just about evenly matched so there really isn't an advantage. It's like if Woahhzz and Thugish got matched up against each other and then some random person made it through winner's in their bracket; them losing doesn't mean they suck. I mean, really, how many time's this year have we seen someone come back from loser's to dominate other top players or, in the case of SJ, win the whole tournament? It's an advantage on paper but, unless random XBL player advances through loser's, it's superficial at best.
 
Woahhzz was the favorite going into Summer Jam, so that's not a good example. And at the end of the day, the better play is still going to win, which in the case of Dev was lolo.

I'm ok with the format that Dev used, but if people feel like the person in winners is not getting an advantage, then just drill the pools down to top 4 instead of top 8 and put the 4 winners into a new bracket. Or just go with straight double elimination.
 
Woahhzz wasn't the favorite to win at all! Everyone was mentioning Lolo, Thugish, and Mick until day 2!

Also, at the end of the day, the organizers are going to do what they want and I'm going to support SC regardless. Just voicing my opinion
 
A bit late, but congrats to Lolo for taking DEV and congrats to everyone that made it to top 8, job well done!... sucks to hear about the tourney mishap, take it with a grain of salt guys, you are all better than that to let it ruin your last days with SC4 and the community...wow 70 some odd entrants?!, holy crap! that is a nice amount especially for SC4 nowadays...will NEC have a similar head count of entrants as well? Lets all take a moment of silence and pray it does!!...If all goes well i should be there to enjoy the last of it with everyone before its gone.
 
Woahhzz was the favorite going into summer jam, and will continue being the favorite until he stops winning 95% of the tournaments he's in. People can have opinions all they want, but the numbers support our boy woahhzz, heh.
 
Don't get me wrong, I told Woahhzz I thought he had a good chance of wnning the first day (you can as him), but the majority of tye people thought one of those three would win.
 
It's fair, heh. Like I said, they can all have their opinions, and it's not like anybody would be majorly shocked if any of those players *did* beat him, because those players are the cream of the crop as far as Calibur goes. Just saying, if it were Vegas odds, he'd kind of have to be the favorite going in.
 
Woahhzz was the favorite going into SJ, and lolo was the favorite going into Dev. It's not rocket science.
 
Philly need to stop nut hugging. NO ONE but Philly, RTD, (and myself) had Woahhzz as a favorite. It's like LP said MOST people thought it would've been a couple of those other people which is what defines the term favorite, Period.
 

Sorry for the late reply. Good games with you guys. Shoutouts to the people I fought in the tournament...Omega, lobo, wolfkr0ne and some other dude that I didn't get the name. Special shoutouts to the California peeps NFK, Signia, myself, Krayzie, Juece, NDK, etc. (sorry if I forgot you) Its good to see the SC community again. Its great to see all of you guys there. I hope to see you all in SC5! I'll be back!
 
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Nori, it's a miracle... All I can say is that you are gonna see me for SC5 a lot in San Antonio, my sister is gonna live there soon.
 
Dude, that's awesome! I'm so glad I came back on the forums and nothing has changed. Same average players acting like they are top tier, same arguing over stupidity. Sucks what happened to RTD. Wouldn't happen at a tournament I run, that's all I know:)

And I'm about to have my first kid oct 25th, fucking crazy I've been traveling to majors since 2002 and now gonna be a dad..........which of course will not stop me from traveling to majors. I'm not raising a noob
 
Nori said:
Same average players acting like they are top tier, same arguing over stupidity.
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Can you say Irony...Lol

Nori said:
And I'm about to have my first kid oct 25th, fucking crazy I've been traveling to majors since 2002 and now gonna be a dad..........which of course will not stop me from traveling to majors. I'm not raising a noob
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Congratulations bruh! You, Oof, and RTD can start the raising of a whole new SC generation!
 
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