Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3

That Strider assist is so good, man I don't know what to do against it. I don't even know how to stop it when they have him on point spamming vajra. Can you air throw him out of it?

Also playing online has shown me that I was correct in assuming that everyone would be picking the trench coat trio!
 
Juece said:
That Strider assist is so good, man I don't know what to do against it. I don't even know how to stop it when they have him on point spamming vajra. Can you air throw him out of it?

Also playing online has shown me that I was correct in assuming that everyone would be picking the trench coat trio!
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Contrary to popular belief, you can hit him as he's coming in (as an assist), right when he re-appears before the kick and a little bit of time even after the kick.

If you're getting rushed down this is all a moot point of course, but if you see Strider coming in, it might be worth it to X-factor out of blockstun and get the happy birthday.

2 cents.
 
Cosmic_Castaway said:
Ghost Rider having trouble against a teleporting character? Man, I wonder who said that would happen a couple pages back.

Oh wait.
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Surprisingly I haven't had ghost against Strider, it usually happens when Doom and Dorm are out. For the most part it takes both my opponents characters to kill my ghost rider, leaving the strider anchor to pretty much just one hit my ghost or if ghost was taken out too kill try and kill of the rest of my team. Honestly I have yet to have any trouble against teleport characters with ghost as everyone always tries to teleport behind me. Its bascally just jump forward when they teleport and j.S them when they appear.

Wesker on the other hand is still an ass with his insane damage out-put and crazy mix-ups, though I finally had a chance to play someone who knew how to play a combo heavy Viper and Vergil. It was pretty cool seeing the crazy stuff they could pull off. I beat the hell out of the guy with Ghost though since he was too busy trying to look fancy instead of blocking.
 
Animefreak6969 said:
Whole lotta nobody lol
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Who are you again?
Juece said:
Surprisingly I haven't had ghost against Strider
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No one plays Strider on point or 2nd, that's why. Except like, me, but I don't play online. I was playing my friend's Ghost Rider the other day, and Dante + Strider Vajra eats him up. He couldn't do anything without getting smacked or locked down by the assist. Sometimes I'd have Dante teleport after the assist came out, and then just do 3HHH~S into a free combo. Could get more on anticipation, but the hitstun timer on Hammer and j.S are weird as hell in this game.

Wesker isn't that good, btw. Not top 5, and some people on SRK are saying he's not even top 10. He's just easy mode. All of his mixups can be telegraphed, and he's really reliant on assists. You're a pretty weird Rider player if you don't have trouble against any teleporters except Wesker, haha.
 
Cosmic_Castaway said:
Who are you again?

No one plays Strider on point or 2nd, that's why. Except like, me, but I don't play online. I was playing my friend's Ghost Rider the other day, and Dante + Strider Vajra eats him up. He couldn't do anything without getting smacked or locked down by the assist. Sometimes I'd have Dante teleport after the assist came out, and then just do 3HHH~S into a free combo. Could get more on anticipation, but the hitstun timer on Hammer and j.S are weird as hell in this game.

Wesker isn't that good, btw. Not top 5, and some people on SRK are saying he's not even top 10. He's just easy mode. All of his mixups can be telegraphed, and he's really reliant on assists. You're a pretty weird Rider player if you don't have trouble against any teleporters except Wesker, haha.
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Yeah its I'm not going to boast or anything since I do a lot of online play what with the my local scene only consisting of like 2 decent players. I play an aggressive ghost so teleports don't give me problems since I always have Doom shooting misseles and I always jump at people spamming j.S or if I think they are going to jump I just go for a j.H and keep them in the corner long enough for the assist to hit.

The main thing that gets me with Wesker is (once again) the fact that I'm forced to play online so his mix-ups are harder to react to. I was really saddened when I found people who played offline, only to find out they don't play any of the more common characters. I have been able to get some anti-Captain America practice in though and he is looking better this time around.

Guess my main problem is that I don't have a large enough offline scene to really see what people can do.
 
Wow i just realize Dr. Strange has a very epic theme song, like "Im the final boss" quality theme song, its more awesome then that giant bright color weirdo.


Choir makes everything more epic, even if it sounds like something from Fruityloops.
 
Metallix picked up her copy of this game last night. I so want to try Dr. Strange and Rocket Raccoon.
Are there going to some more DLC's or this game is only going to have 48 characters? I hope this game is going to be balanced from what I've been hearing from some players I know who were talking to me about it. Honestly I was not happy and impressed with MvC3, to me it seemed more it was catered to hardcore tourney players than besides casual players like me.
 
Juece said:
Yeah its I'm not going to boast or anything since I do a lot of online play what with the my local scene only consisting of like 2 decent players. I play an aggressive ghost so teleports don't give me problems since I always have Doom shooting misseles and I always jump at people spamming j.S or if I think they are going to jump I just go for a j.H and keep them in the corner long enough for the assist to hit.

The main thing that gets me with Wesker is (once again) the fact that I'm forced to play online so his mix-ups are harder to react to. I was really saddened when I found people who played offline, only to find out they don't play any of the more common characters. I have been able to get some anti-Captain America practice in though and he is looking better this time around.

Guess my main problem is that I don't have a large enough offline scene to really see what people can do.
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Yeah, I remember you saying that you were an aggressive Rider, which kind of threw me for a loop. I'm surprised you haven't been killed for that yet. I love Riders that rush down, because like I said earlier in the thread, they're coming to me, and they need to learn to "GET BACK!" (pun intended).

As for Wesker, most of his mixups come from his teleports, so just run away and he won't be able to close in to mix you up. Best he'll be able to do is shoot at you, which is lulzy considering how much Rider outclasses him there. 3/4 of a screen away is Rider's ideal range.

Pretty surprised you don't have a better scene, considering you're from Cali. NorCal or SoCal? If NorCal, I'd hit up SRK and see when everyone's playing at Starbase. Players usually in attendance there are guys like Dacidbro, Chrisis, KBeast, Filipino Champ, Haunts, etc. Not too sure on SoCal though.
Animefreak6969 said:
Datne + Vajra is best friends forever.
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Damn right. /brofist
 
Cosmic_Castaway said:
Who are you again?

No one plays Strider on point or 2nd, that's why. Except like, me, but I don't play online. I was playing my friend's Ghost Rider the other day, and Dante + Strider Vajra eats him up. He couldn't do anything without getting smacked or locked down by the assist. Sometimes I'd have Dante teleport after the assist came out, and then just do 3HHH~S into a free combo. Could get more on anticipation, but the hitstun timer on Hammer and j.S are weird as hell in this game.

Wesker isn't that good, btw. Not top 5, and some people on SRK are saying he's not even top 10. He's just easy mode. All of his mixups can be telegraphed, and he's really reliant on assists. You're a pretty weird Rider player if you don't have trouble against any teleporters except Wesker, haha.
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Not seeing anything that is convincing me otherwise that he's not top 10. You can maybe argue that he's not top 5, but Dark Wesker (shades off + level 3 X-factor) is really too damn close to being unblockable to not crack that list somewhere.

And being reliant on assists doesn't equal that you're low(er) tier in this game -- not the way Marvel is set up at least. If you start him on point, you're meant to have assists. If he's anchor, he has derp factor that he can use (and use damn well). In both scenarios, you can expect he'll get in.

The only top tier character in Vanilla, arguably in Ultimate that doesn't want assists to be effective is Dark Phoenix.
 
Force-Destruct said:
I'm wondering on how to get in on a chicken-blocking person/lame playing person with Nova?
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His down air dash is insanely quick so I would abuse that with his j.L or just spam his javelin along with an assist to frustrate them enough to make them come to you. Though I would suggest using his down air dash since you have a decent amount of options to choose from when you abuse it.
 
Cosmic_Castaway said:
Yeah, I remember you saying that you were an aggressive Rider, which kind of threw me for a loop. I'm surprised you haven't been killed for that yet. I love Riders that rush down, because like I said earlier in the thread, they're coming to me, and they need to learn to "GET BACK!" (pun intended).

As for Wesker, most of his mixups come from his teleports, so just run away and he won't be able to close in to mix you up. Best he'll be able to do is shoot at you, which is lulzy considering how much Rider outclasses him there. 3/4 of a screen away is Rider's ideal range.

Pretty surprised you don't have a better scene, considering you're from Cali. NorCal or SoCal? If NorCal, I'd hit up SRK and see when everyone's playing at Starbase. Players usually in attendance there are guys like Dacidbro, Chrisis, KBeast, Filipino Champ, Haunts, etc. Not too sure on SoCal though.
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I'm in SoCal and my car is none existent for the time being, I have made friends with one of the guys who plays locally and he wants to start going to Wednesday night fights. If he decides to go often then I will be hitching a ride with him and getting a chance to test out my scrubby tactics on people.
 
Sora said:
Not seeing anything that is convincing me otherwise that he's not top 10. You can maybe argue that he's not top 5, but Dark Wesker (shades off + level 3 X-factor) is really too damn close to being unblockable to not crack that list somewhere.

And being reliant on assists doesn't equal that you're low(er) tier in this game -- not the way Marvel is set up at least. If you start him on point, you're meant to have assists. If he's anchor, he has derp factor that he can use (and use damn well). In both scenarios, you can expect he'll get in.

The only top tier character in Vanilla, arguably in Ultimate that doesn't want assists to be effective is Dark Phoenix.
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Yeah, I hear a lot about how derpy Dark Wesker is, but I play two pretty solid Weskers, and XF3 Vergil beats Dark Wesker almost every time, especially XF3 Devil Trigger Vergil. Viper, Dante, Vergil, and Strider all have a multitude of tools that are much better than what Wesker has. Wesker's greatest assets are his reset options, his teleports, and his normals. Outside of that, he doesn't really have much to work with, and as I said, his mixups are very easily telegraphed. If you want the definition of unblockable, try XF3 Strider with Ouroboros. Hell, XF3 Strider alone is impossible to escape, as are XF3 Dark Phoenix and XF3 Vergil. Top 10 right now, my opinion? Viper, Dante, Vergil, Strider, Dark Phoenix, Zero, Dorm, Doom, Spencer, and Magneto. Wesker's not top 10 because he sucks or anything, there's just other characters better than him. UMvC3 is cool like that.
Juece said:
I'm in SoCal and my car is none existent for the time being, I have made friends with one of the guys who plays locally and he wants to start going to Wednesday night fights. If he decides to go often then I will be hitching a ride with him and getting a chance to test out my scrubby tactics on people.
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Nice, man. Good luck with that then.
 
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