6A+B Punishment Thread "SCV Edition"

Aqua_Snake

Aqua_Snake

[09] Warrior
For new players: 6A+B is a tech crouch that goes under highs, including high throws.

Special notations for this thread only:

Punish (P) = Interrupt in between or after string of attacks with 6A+B when blocked.

Step Punish (SP) = When a move is in between its strings, do a quick step to avoid the move, and punish with whatever you think is the best option.

Understand that where the notations have been placed in the attack strings is where you do the punish, or step punish. Also note that 6A+B is Brave Edge capable, so use it when the situation demands it.

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Leixia

6[A] (P)
6B, (P) A
6B, (P) aB
4B, (SP) B
4B, (SP) bK (Note: Punish before she pounds the ground)
6K, K (P)
2A+B (P)
4a+bB (P) (Note: Punish before second hit)
WR A+B, (P) B (Note: Be sure to duck the incoming high, then punish)
WR A+B, (P) bB (Note: Be sure to duck the incoming high, then punish)
3B+K, (SP) K
11 or 77A, (P) A
66B, (SP) B
66B, (SP) bB
44 or 11 or 77B (P) (Note: If you anticipate the opponent will do the GI retreat move after blocking the attack, immediately punish with 44B since it’s slow enough to have the GI window end before it connects)

22 or 88K (P)
22 or 88kA, A, (SP) B
22 or 88kA, A, (SP) K
*Stance* 22 or 88 B+K, K (P)

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Natsu

6A, (SP) B
6A, (P) K
1A (P)
WR A, A, A (P)
WR A, A, A4 (P)
B, B, K (P)
B, B, (P) 4A+B
B, B, (P) 4A+B, A
B, (P) K, A
B, (P) K4
B, (P) [K], A
B, (P) [K]4
3B (P)
WR B, (P) 4A+B
WR B, (P) 4A+B, A
K, K, (P) K (Note: Best to duck the last hit, then punish)
K, K, (P) B+K
K, K, (P) 8 or 2B+K
8K, A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
6A+B4 (P) (Note: Punish right after 6A+B)
4A+B6 (P) (Note: All stance options from Bomb can be interrupted except PO K)
4A+B6 > PO K (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE. Free punish with CE as well)
66 or 33 or 99A, B4 (P)
11 or 77A (P) (Note: Block first hit, then punish when ducking second hit)
66 or 33 or 99B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
66K (P)
22 or 88K, A (P)
22 or 88K, A4 (P)
22 or 88K, B+K (P)
22 or 88K, 8 or 2B+K (P)

(Special Note: 6A+B demolishes all of Natsu's stances. You should NEVER allow her to go into stance without being punished. She can't do anything.)

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Pyrrha

4A, (P) A, A
4A, (SP) B
B, (P) K
3B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
2B, B (P)
3K, (P)/(SP) K (Note: Only punishable when using BE, but can also be SP)
B+K, B (P)
B+K, B, B, B (P) (Note: Attacks will push you back. Any of the last blocked hits is punishable)
11 or 77A, (P) [A]
22 or 88B, (P) A, K (Note: Punish during recovery)
44 or 11 or 77K, (P) A, B
44 or 11 or 77K, (P) B
66 or 33 or 99B+K, A, B (P)
236A, A (P)
236B (P)
236K (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
236~2 or 8A, A (P)
236~2 or 8B, A, B (P)

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Mitsurugi

3A (P)
4A , 6 (P)
B, B, 6 (P) (Note: BE punish may be necessary)
bA (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
3B (P)
FC 1B, (P) B (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
kB (P)
2K, B (P) (Note: Punishable on block or hit with the exception of getting Counter Hit)
2K, B, 6 (P)
4K, (SP) B
B+K (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
11 or 77A (P)
66 or 33 or 99 B, B (P)
11 or 77B, A, (P) B
11 or 77B, A, (P) 6
6B+K, B, (SP) B+K
6B+K, K, (P) B (Note: Duck under second hit then punish)

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Patroklos

1A (P)
6B, B, B (P)
3B (P)
3K, (P) K
1K (P)
2A+B (P)
22 or 88A, (P) A
22 or 88A, (P) [A]
66 or 33 or 99K (P)
11 or 77K (P)
44K, (P) K
66B+K (P) (Note: You may have to run up quickly to punish after the second hit whiffs)
236A, B (P)
236B (P) (Only punishable when using BE)
236K (P)

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Cervantes

aB (P) (Note: May get pushed out of range. Use BE to make certain of punish)
3A (P)
1A, B (P)
4aB, B (P)
B, B, B (P)
6B, (SP) B
4B, (P) K (Note: Duck second hit, then punish)
6K (P)
1K (P)
4K, (SP) K
3A+B (P)
4A+B (P) (Note: Only punishable with BE)
8A+B (P)
WR A+B (P) or (SP) (Note: If you block all hits, then BE must be used for punish)
WR B+K (P)
11 or 77B (P)
44B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
11 or 77K (P)
214B (P)
214K (P)

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Nightmare

[A] (P)
A, A, B (P)
A, A, (P) b6
A, 2A, A (P)
3A, A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
3A, 2A (P)
1A (P)
B, (SP) B
6[B} (P)
3B (P)
3[B} (P)
1B (P)
4B, [B} (P)
FC 3B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
WR B (P)
WR [B} (P)
2K (P)
4K, (P) K
WR K (P)
A+B (P)
2A+B (P)
22 or 88A, A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
33 or 99B (P)
88 or 22B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
44 or 11 or 77[B} (P)
66 or 33 or 99K (P)
66 or 33 or 99A+B (P)
236A (P)
236K (P)
B+K, [A] (P)
FC A+G (P)
FC B+G (P)

(For some reason, LI A whiffs for moves that you can only punish with BE which may have to do with Nightmare’s hitbox. So going into LO B after BE 6A+B may be the next best idea.)

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Xiba

AAK (P) (Note: Can also punish after the first attack)
6A, (SP) K (Note: Steppable only to Xiba’s right. Also if you Just Guard the last attack, Maxi will be facing the opposite direction giving you a free BT B+K punish)

3A, (P) B
1A (P)
B, (SP) B
B, (P) [B}
3[B} (P)
3B, (P) K
3kB (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
A+B, B, (P) K
3A+B (P)
1A+B (P)
FC A+B (SP) (Note: Step Punish the second hit)
WD A+B (P)
33 or 99A, A (P)
22 or 88A, B (P)
22 or 88A, [B} (P)
66 or 33 or 99B, B, B (P) (Note: Also Step Punishable to Xiba’s left after first hit)
66K, B (P) (Note: Also Step Punishable after first hit)
66K, (P) [B}
22 or 88K (P)
B+K, A, K (P)
B+K, K (P)

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Viola

Specific Viola Notations

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SET = No Orb
ORB = With Orb
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6A, A (P)
ORB 6A, B (P)
1A (P)
1B (P)
1K (P)
ORB A+B, A (P)
SET A+B, A, B (P)
ORB 6A+B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
1A+B (P)
SET 2A+B (P) (Note: Be close enough to punish)
ORB 8A+B (P)
SET 8A+B (SP) (Note: Step Punish second attack)
66A, (P) A, B
SET 33 or 99A (P)
SET 22 or 88A, B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
SET 44 or 11 or 77A, B (P)
ORB 22 or 88K, B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
SET 22 or 88K, B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE but must step forward quickly)
66 or 33 or 99A+B, B (P)
SET 66 or 33 or 99A+B, B (P) (Note Only punishable when using BE)

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Ivy

A, (P) A
[A] (P) (Note: Punish before second hit)
6A, (P) K
6[A] (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
3[A] (P)
1A (P)
WR [A] (P)
{B} (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
bK (P)
6b8 (P)
1{B}, (P) B (Note: Walk forward a bit, then punish)
6K, (P) B (Note: Walk forward a bit, then punish)
6K, (P) B, K
1K (P)
4A+B, (SP) B
8A+B, (P) B (Only punishable when using BE)
WR A+B, A (P) (Note: Punish after second hit)
11 or 77A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
44[A] (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
22 or 88{B}, (SP) B, B, B (P)
44B, B, B (P)
44B+K, (SP) B


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Tira

Jolly 6A, B (P)
Gloomy 3A, A (P) (Note: Duck last hit, then punish)
Jolly 2A, B (P)
Jolly 4B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
WR B, (P) K
Jump B (P)
Jolly 1K (P)
Gloomy 1K (P)
236K (P)
4B+K, (SP) B
In Jolly with back turned around B+K, B (P)
Jolly 66 or 33 or 99A, A (P)
Jolly 44 or 11 or 77A, (P) A
Jolly 44 or 11 or 77A, 2A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
7 or 8 or 9B+K (P)

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Aeon

Aeon’s Stance - Sand Winger = “SW”

WR A, B (P)
B, (SP) B, B
6B, (P) B
1K (P)
8B+K (P) (Note: May depend on distance when blocked, in which only punishable when using BE)
22 or 88A, B (P)
44 or 11 or 77A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
44B, (P) A, A
66K (P)
11 or 77K (P)
44K (P)

(Any moves that Aeon can cancel into his stance such as:

8B+K
44 or 11 or 77A
66B

Is Step Punishable. All attacks from his stance can be avoided)

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Yoshimitsu

6[A] (P)
6[A], 6 (P)
3A, B (P)
1A, A, A, A, A (P)
4A, A, A, A, A (P) (Note: 44B will be a better punisher since you must dash forward to BE 6A+B)
214A (P)
1B (P)
6K, (P) K
4K, (SP) B
FC 3K (P)
FC 1K, K, K, K, K (P)
6B+K, (P) B, B, B
9B+K, (SP) K or [K]
33 or 99B, B+K, A+B, K (P)
11 or 77B (P)
66 or 33 or 99 or 22 or 88a+b~2B (P)
“Flea Stance” B+K, A (P)
“Flea Stance” B+K, K (P)
“Flea Stance” B+K, 66 (P)
“Indian Stance” 2B+K, A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
“Manji Dragonfly” 8B+K, K (P)

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Voldo

3A (P)
1A (P)
WR A, A (P)
2B, (SP) B
1B (P)
4B, (SP) A, A
FC 3B (P) (Note: Must be extremely close to punish. Easier to punish with BE)
WR B, (SP) B
BT Jump B, (P) K
BT Jump K, (P) A
2A+B (P)
BT A+B (P)
BT 2A+B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
B+K (P)
BT 66B, K (P)
11 or 77K (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
66A+B, (P) K
44A+B (P)
Mantis Crawl 2B+K, B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
Caliostro Rush 236A, A (P)
Caliostro Rush 236B, (SP) B
Caliostro Rush 236A+B (P)
Death Roll 2 or 8[A+K], A (P)

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Astaroth

A, (P) A
A, (SP) B
6A, (P) A
1A, (P) B
B, (SP) B
B, (SP) b6
3B (P)
1B, B (P)
3K, (P) A
3K, (P) [A] (Note: BE will trade with second hit if you’re too close)
3[K], (P) A
1K, (P) A
4K, (SP) K
WR K, (P) A
A+B (P) (Note: Punishable if close enough, and when using BE)
4A+B (P)
2B+K (P)
66 or 33 or 99A, (SP) B
11 or 77A, (SP) B
33 or 99B (P)
11 or 77B, K (P) (Note: Punishable if blocked close, and when using BE on whiff of second hit)

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Algol

6A, (P) A, B (Note: Duck under second hit, then punish)
1A (P)
4A, B (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
6B, (P) B, B (Note: Duck under second hit, then punish)
3B, (SP) B
4B, A (P)
623B (P)
6K, (P) K (Note: Duck second hit to give time for Algol to land, then punish)
1K (P)
WR K, K (P)
WR K, (SP) [K]
33 or 99A, B (P)
44 or 11 or 77A, A (P) (Note: Only punishable when using BE)
33 or 99B, (SP) B
11 or 77B (P)
11 or 77K (P)
Quamar I' Klil 41236 A+B, (SP) B (Note: Quickly run up to proper distance to punish)
Thuban Duhr 8B+K, B, (SP) B, B, B
 
Really interesting, I'm finding myself being able to just straight 6A+B certain highs, it auto ducks a little bit.
 
If it would only have a slightly better range.. Like the 6A+B BE version...

Then i would spam that move all day long... ALL DAY LONG!!
 
Was messing around with punishing Patroklos 6B,B,B.Don't know if it is already known but you can block the first hit then do 6A+B,it ducks the second hit in the string and hits him,if he stops on the first hit and tries anything after he gets CH 6A+B,or at least on the moves I tried with him he got counter hit by 6A+B.If he does 3K,K you can duck the second hit after blocking with 6A+B,if he stops after the first hit it is punishable close.His 22_88A,A is punishable by blocking the first hit then doing 6A+B,if he charges the second hit maxi gets a CH for himself,if Pat stops on the first hit he is safe if he just guards,gets CH if he tries something.Pat's 44K,K is punishable,block first hit then 6A+B,if he stops on first hit he is safe at max range and punishable anywhere else.

Okay I think that about does it,sorry if post is too long.Thought it would be good to list possible scenarios of each move ect.

Thanks
 
@ZombieGuts: Maxi can dunk with 6 A+B in MOST OF strings with H Attacks from SC3.... i thought this was a general knowlege for regular Maxi's Players. ^^U .

An Example: 6AAB from Ezio -> Block [is best do a JG... but whatever] 1st Hit -> 6A+B on react.

[@ALL] BTW, anything you can punish with 6A+B [normal or BE] you also can do with 236236A+B+K so, think on this for max. damage in some situations.
 
i agree, although to be fair there is a larger list of things that are punishable with CE if you are fast enough on the input, since it's something like i8 i think (can punish mitsu B which is -8 but not 2B which is -7). also, maxi's CE can clean hit too :> obviously, it's a lot easier in a match to punish with 6A+B than it is to punish with the 236236 motion, though.

EDIT: i'm being told that the guide claims his CE is i14. the method i used in training mode was to record mitsu doing B or 2B and then hold G, which is how i test everything since the CPU dummy can be unreliable. if others want to double check this against other characters (i don't have the guide, i was using the mitsu section that got posted as a pdf) to figure this out that'd be great.

EDIT #2: never mind, i was getting bad results due to not holding guard long enough because of the CE animation, lol.
 
@hotdoiplaythisgame
For a minute there I was like wtf lol :)
thanks for the clarification. That would be some insane game mechanics lol
 
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