Official Natsu 1.02 Patch Changes Discussion

TaXi said:
non-natsu players providing useful input in the natsu SA: too many to count.

please give some credit to all the natsu players here who are trying to think of ways to deal with the patch.
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I deserved that. I'm not going to speculate pre-patch, but it just seems like this was a knee-jerk reaction by PS. It nerfs the advanced players way more than it nerfs bombers. It's not like bombs even need a nerf though.
 
clearly namco wanted to reduce natsu's dmg and reduce the spamming of iWSK, 6A+B and A+B, but things like the poison dart nerf i don't get at all.
 
Maybe she will get better, but she loses her flair/finnesse and reason to play her, at least for me. What was fun about Natsu was her playstyle.

I win fights without combos vs scrappy opponents, and the game is boring. I have to use 66B a lot or grabs or some other annoying thing like that. I don't enjoy the fight basically like that.

I lose vs good players but manage to pull off good combos and it was a close match = I had fun.

Natsu might still be strong after this but the playstyle change is what bothers me. I enjoy Natsu because of the combos. Without the CH combos Natsu is really boring to play, she doesn't have any real BE that can lead into combo chains like other players, and she doesn't really have any normal extensive combos she can pull off that don't rely on CH. So her CH combos were long and very damaging. Now they are shorter, do less damage and possible less openers too. I know they still will be there, but less of a focus on them is (IMHO) the wrong way to go. I dont want poke with bomb pressure. I played that way to begin with, but now after learning all her combos it is so much much more fun utilizing them than 66B with bomb pressure

I just don't think I'll be a fan of the playstyle, even if Natsu in terms is still a decent character.
 
after A6 wallsplats, 3B will result in a high wallsplat that allows for 4A+B to launch. unfortunately it doesn't seem to work for 66B BE wallsplat... 6A+B is probably your best bet after.
 
After some time in training with new patch, i must say Natsu don't deserve this. Now almost no combo potential, overnerf movie like FC 2A+B, 22K, 6A+B., A+B.... now noob will be two time more pissed with 66B fishing and tech bomb frenzy.
 
mozarus said:
After some time in training with new patch, i must say Natsu don't deserve this. Now almost no combo potential, overnerf movie like FC 2A+B, 22K, 6A+B., A+B.... now noob will be two time more pissed with 66B fishing and tech bomb frenzy.
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How do you have the patch already?

I agree with people saying this is going to make Natsu a lot more mindless to play. 66B's, 66B's everywhere. AAB also.
 
UnseenWombat said:
How do you have the patch already?

I agree with people saying this is going to make Natsu a lot more mindless to play. 66B's, 66B's everywhere. AAB also.
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The patch is up on european psn. I have it as well. I agree about the patch, i would have preferred if the patch would have discouraged a move spamming style.
 
Protoman said:
Is there a video of it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
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I use it at 4:00 and again at 4:35.

And I can't believe they making Natsu into a n00b killer, and more than likely the same reasons why people are complaining. Make her alittle more unsafe, ok I can live with that, but lowering damage taking away her combos is just retared. It's like people assume this stuff is easy to perform. God I see a remake of SC4 Taki coming if this keeps up, low damage, high risk for medium damage. Speed don't mean shit if you not ko'ing your opponents.

At least I'm not as upset with this update after I seen the other changes to some characters (I think Maxi characters are a bit angry too). Also let's see how many more Ivy's come out the woodwork claiming her to be their mains again.
 
Crysack said:
So 22K doesn't appear to connect into 6A+B anymore. The only CH combo she seems to have left is her WS K.
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This is really depressing. WS K is supposedly now crap on block. Can you find out what the frame disadvantage actually is? What does the opponent get guaranteed?

Also, What about CH 6A+B4? Does it still at least combo into PO A:6, 3KKK?
 
UnseenWombat said:
This is really depressing. WS K is supposedly now crap on block. Can you find out what the frame disadvantage actually is? What does the opponent get guaranteed?

Also, What about CH 6A+B4? Does it still at least combo into PO A:6, 3KKK?
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It no longer combos. 6A+B doesn't appear to stun at all.

Edit: Scratch that, I'm an idiot. It seems to be -12. It's REALLY easy to step though.
 
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