Ivy Combos & Tech Traps discussion

[K0rN_b4LL]

On another note, 1_2B+K combos into 6[A] in SC4 style. It does less damage than 6B8/6B8 BE but looks flashy.

You mean 7_8B+K or is my mind really asploding from the thought of doing 6[A] after a groundstab?

 

[Ring]

You mean 7_8B+K or is my mind really asploding from the thought of doing 6[A] after a groundstab?

Yeah! Sorry...

 

[K0rN_b4LL]

*sigh* Alright, just let me pick up these pieces and see if I can stuff em back in. :(

 

[KineticClash]

Some combos I just tested... It's kinda messy, but I hope it helps. It mostly has to do with using the right amount of meter.

2A+B CH

2A+B(CH), 1B BE x4, 6B8 200% = 124 Over 50% of health!
2A+B(CH), 1B BE x3, 6B8 150% = 110
2A+B(CH), 1B BE x2, 6B8 100%= 94
2A+B(CH), 1B BE, 6B8 50% = 79
2A+B(CH), 6B8 = 74
2A+B(CH), 6B8 BE 50% = 85
2A+B(CH), 1B BE, 6B8 BE 100% = 88
(If you want to spend 1 meter, go with the 85 damage combo.
If you want to spend 2-4 meters, use 1B BE ONLY instead of 6B8 BE)


Wall combo from 3B NC (slight angle)
3B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 135
3B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x2, 6B8 150% = 129
3B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x1, 6B8 100% = 120
3B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, 6B8 50% = 115

Wall combo from WS A+B (CH)
WS A+B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 163
WS A+B(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, 6B8 50% = 143

Wall combo from 3A+B fully charged
3A+B(full charge), (ground damage), 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, 6B8 BE(W!), 2B+K, dash, bK 100% = 212
3A+B(full charge), (ground damage), 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, 6B8 50% = 183

Wall combo from 214A (Has chance to be 100% with right amount of clean hits!)
214A(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 224

Wall combo from 6A+B
6A+B(W!), dash, 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 179
6A+B(W!), dash, 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, 6B8 50% = 158
6A+B(W!), 88_22BBBBB = 124
6A+B(W!), 2B+K, dash, bK = 116
6A+B(W!), 7B+K, 6B8, = 124 (7B+K misses often)

3A+B
3A+B, (ground damage)/dash, 1B BE x4 200% = 178
3A+B, (ground damage), 6B8 BE 50% = 135
3A+B, (ground damage), 6B8 = 124

 

[K0rN_b4LL]

snip

You can do a CE after a CH 2A+B as well, just don't mash it since if it you do it as early as possible the bullet goes under them. Disregard.

 

[KineticClash]

You can do a CE after a CH 2A+B as well, just don't mash it since if it you do it as early as possible the bullet goes under them.

O.o???

 

[K0rN_b4LL]

Indeed. Disregard

 

[KineticClash]

Indeed.

Unless you mean after a delayed W! from 3B, I don't think Ivy can combo her CE with anything else... Plus, she doesn't shoot bullets XD

 

[K0rN_b4LL]

OMG!!!!!!! I thought I was in the Cervy section! My bad, disregard.

 

[bushindu]

just wondering guys whats the max dmg you've managed to get with ivy one combo
I managed 207, 214A wall hit, 66B BE 2A+B 6B8 BE
anything higher than this ?

 

[KineticClash]

Mine was 224 damage, a couple posts above: 214A(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 224

 

[bushindu]

Mine was 224 damage, a couple posts above: 214A(W!), 2A+B, 6B8 BE(W!), 7B+K, dash, 1B BE x3, 6B8 200% = 224

you can air control out of that I'm sure

 

[Ring]

You can't.

Have you guys tried 214A!, 2A+B, 6B8 BE!, 7B+K, 6B8BE! 3B+K, 3B+K? I haven't tried it but think it should work.

 

[KineticClash]

It won't wallsplat a third time. I've tried it, but maybe I did something wrong. Pretty sure it won't though.

 

[Ring]

Yeah, you're right.

214A!, 2A+B, 6B8 BE!, 7B+K, dash 1B BE, CE - 300 DMG, guaranteed if the opponent holds G, or presses G even for 1 frame after the CE animation has started.

CE can be linked after many moves as a "techtrap" or "G trap" because it's guaranteed if the opponent holds/presses G.

 

[bushindu]

Yeah, you're right.

214A!, 2A+B, 6B8 BE!, 7B+K, dash 1B BE, CE - 300 DMG, guaranteed if the opponent holds G, or presses G even for 1 frame after the CE animation has started.

CE can be linked after many moves as a "techtrap" or "G trap" because it's guaranteed if the opponent holds/presses G.

yeah I was kinda happy when I found that out the other day

 

[KineticClash]

214A!, 2A+B, 6B8 BE!, 7B+K, dash 1B BE, CE - 300 DMG, guaranteed if the opponent holds G, or presses G even for 1 frame after the CE animation has started.

CE can be linked after many moves as a "techtrap" or "G trap" because it's guaranteed if the opponent holds/presses G.

Wait, so even if they switch to 2G in time to duck it, it'll still hit them if they were pressing G during its animation?

 

[bushindu]

Wait, so even if they switch to 2G in time to duck it, it'll still hit them if they were pressing G during its animation?

2g Im pretty sure still counts as a duck miss, but if they hold G like most people do, they go straight into standing when they can recover, but they dont need to fully standing

 

[KineticClash]

2g Im pretty sure still counts as a duck miss, but if they hold G like most people do, they go straight into standing when they can recover, but they dont need to fully standing

Hmm, it still seems like a good strategy. However, it costs 150% of your meter, and some people react to the blue flash of CE quickly enough to duck. Unless they're really just good guessers...

 

[Ring]

Wait, so even if they switch to 2G in time to duck it, it'll still hit them if they were pressing G during its animation?

They can't duck it. You have to do CE at the same moment they hit the ground. If they pressed G/2G/8G or buffered a tech roll they will die.

The easiest way to check this is 7B+K, CE. Record that on yourself and try to escape.