IDEA: Online Amateur Tournament

Wandrian said:
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You are accusing me of things that are wildly untrue just because I'm the one behind this proposal. Learn to read already.

I'm getting pretty fucking tired of this community's hateboner for me. If you all would rather have someone else run this, I've no objections.

xXPyrrusXx said:
But it could still be and that's that.
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No, it couldn't be, and that's that. A sign-up list and date and time are unreasonable to ask for what is just an IDEA. I'm still just gauging community interest. Though I admit I could have clarified from the onset that all the rules would be just the same as regular tournaments. 3/5 sets. No CaS. No custom outfits.

I do like the idea of a round robin should there be less than eight entrants. That's how we usually do it at the arcade, and it scales up to just about the same amount of time as a double elim would take, since we let people just go find their opponents and fight them in any order. We'd have to figure out a way to manage the logistics.
 
TiZ said:
I do like the idea of a round robin should there be less than eight entrants. That's how we usually do it at the arcade, and it scales up to just about the same amount of time as a double elim would take, since we let people just go find their opponents and fight them in any order. We'd have to figure out a way to manage the logistics.
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Yeah, it would be fun to give it a go, e.g 10 entrants =10 rounds ft3 char chosen by the person running it, via a random method.
So round 1 everyone would have to use for example mitsurugi, round 2 viola etc etc
 
yall are a bunch of dicks.

If you dont like TiZ. Then dont play. Its pretty simple. If this whole idea is worth while, then it will be a glorious thing that anyone can enjoy.

If other preditctions of failure are to happen....then it will work itself out on its own. Never have I seen a bunch of snivlin jerks come shit on something like this. Just because its froma person you dont like.....seems you couldve just sat back and watched the failure happen and snicker at him when hes down. Instead we get "EVERYONE SEE MY E-PEEN"

Once again....yall are a big o sack o dicks!!
 
Hot Rod Dave said:
glorious thing that anyone can enjoy.
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Except you. Or me. Or alot of other people.

When did this idea of opposong idea = don't like the one who came up with it come from? As this tthread is labelled "IDEA", the point was to give feedback. Feedback can include "I don't like the idea of it/reasons why it shouldn't happen/iswrong/whatever. As some people have expressed.

Feedback is NOT only positive, as alot of people seem to think. Just because TiZ is taking the fact that people don't like his idea as a personal attack (And very quickly begins to whip out the bad words and insults) does not mean we all have to submit to his wishes and give up our position on the matter.

As for the "Don't like it don't play" argument, that defeats the purpose of a thread pitching the idea. He wanted to see if the community wanted it. Obviously some people didn't. And since they didn't go "Oh that's a great idea you're so cool and smart" they are labelled as antagonists that hate him because we disagreed on a single matter he brought up.

Hats off to TiZ for being able to accept negative feedback like a mature person.
 
Mr.MeatHook said:
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This would be the very first reply to the thread. You tell me rather thats productive or not.

All using fancy big words aside. Your intent with that post was to troll TiZ. Thats how I took it, Im sure thats how a ton of others took it. And I dont see no other positive way you couldve meant that. So take your own medicine homes. You virtually started it.
 
bushindu said:
Why are you arguing with me.
How are they suppose to come up with a date, about something that isnt even certain yet, he was throwing the general idea out there for feedback. Basic rules, um there is a general set of rules used for all tournaments FT3, char lock for winner, random stage selection. Instead of acting like an ass hole, provide feedback to whether it would be a good idea, so he can go ahead and organise it.
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I'm arguing with you because you're saying that you can't plan ahead with an idea. Let me put it this way.

Let's say you get an idea to go to a country. Are you just going to sit in you're house thinkingI have an idea and not doing anything about it a or are you going to think about what preparation you're going to need for the trip?Don't tell me a person can't get an idea and then plan how that idea is going to work.

I don't really care if you think I'm acting like an asshole, I gave my feedback. It wasn't a happy positive one but it was feedback nevertheless. Besides why are you getting so offended? Are you the one that came up with the idea? Or are you just playing defender?
 
TiZ said:
No, it couldn't be, and that's that. A sign-up list and date and time are unreasonable to ask for what is just an IDEA. I'm still just gauging community interest. Though I admit I could have clarified from the onset that all the rules would be just the same as regular tournaments. 3/5 sets. No CaS. No custom outfits..
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That's all I was trying to make you see. I admit I was rude, but I was just trying to get my point across.
 
Hot Rod Dave said:
This would be the very first reply to the thread. You tell me rather thats productive or not.

All using fancy big words aside. Your intent with that post was to troll TiZ. Thats how I took it, Im sure thats how a ton of others took it. And I dont see no other positive way you couldve meant that. So take your own medicine homes. You virtually started it.
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You use a single one of my posts. And I don't see what I "started". I began explaining my point of view on that very same page. (granted my arguments weren't as good in the beginning). If you mean I "started" other people disliking the idea, that is frankly absurd. If you are saying I "started" TiZ taking things personally, I will bring up

Trolling is inevitable
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TiZ could have ignored that post, but chose to respond, sparking a discussion that went for the most part smoothly until it devolved into such juvenile things as

TiZ said:
You're a fucking idiot, and I'm legitimately getting sick of your shit. Learn to fucking read.
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The discussion resumed, and TiZ began to play the victim, just as people like you decide to swoop in and declare that "Discussion is a bad thing. Everyone must be happy all the time, no one can disagree, because discussion is arguing which is evil and should be stopped and forgotten". Someone doesn't like poor poor TiZ's idea, boo hoo.

Fact is, he wanted feedback. I gave him feedback.
 
Mr.MeatHook said:
TiZ could have ignored that post, but chose to respond, sparking a discussion that went for the most part smoothly until it devolved into such juvenile things as
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Dude.....you poke a sleeping bear enough times and..........

Im done arguing. Obviously things gotta be taken thing way out of proportion and words takin out of context.

Im amazed at this place sometimes really. People wanna jump on others for conflicting opions and all of a sudden everyones a martyer.

Nice try TiZ. Might of been fun for some. But people with negative things to say just cant keep their mouth shut.
 
xXPyrrusXx said:
That's all I was trying to make you see. I admit I was rude, but I was just trying to get my point across.
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It's cool.

bushindu said:
Yeah, it would be fun to give it a go, e.g 10 entrants =10 rounds ft3 char chosen by the person running it, via a random method.
So round 1 everyone would have to use for example mitsurugi, round 2 viola etc etc
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I would honestly really rather not do something like this. I mean, sure, it could be fun, but you never see in an amateur golf tournament where the person running it is all like "4 wood!" and then suddenly everyone has to use a 4 wood no matter where they are on the field. This is still competition, just competition at a more targeted subset of players. Like the little leagues, so to speak.

Mr.MeatHook said:
Hats off to TiZ for being able to accept negative feedback like a mature person.
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I take negative feedback perfectly fine when the feedbacker* isn't being a dick about it. You know, by starting the discussion off with a picture of a salt shaker and continuously accusing me of only wanting to fight people I can beat when I'm not even going to be in the tournament. If you want to give me feedback, well, that's why I created the thread in the first place. Have at it. But if you're gonna come troll and slander me and then try to hide and pretend that you weren't, then your credibility is already gone. Seriously, you are here pretending you weren't being a huge dick to me from the onset, and pretending I wasn't keeping my patience up and being as nice as possible for as long as I could. I direct you to the entire first page as well as most of the second page, up until you posted your third image macro to antagonize me, and on what? Two completely unrelated quotes. It wasn't until directly after that I snapped. As great attorneys of fictional lore say, Take That!

*This is the wrong word. There's no way it isn't.


Okay, so for the most part, it seems there is a fair reception to this idea, though it is a valid point that we should try to refine the criteria and filtering to prevent the entrance of high-level players. I know one idea was to change top 8 at majors to top 4, but that wouldn't narrow it down enough. Trust me... if you make it to top 8 in any major, even now, you're a beast. The only people bothering to travel for SC nowadays are those who are passionate about it, and/or think they can do some work in it.

I wasn't 100% sure of the criteria I assigned for online tournament filtering to be honest. I know there are very skilled players who are online warriors though, and the online tourneys are where they often test their mettle. We can't use any other criteria here; rank and win percentage are completely useless. Are there better ideas for online tournament-related criteria?
 
TiZ said:
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to be honest, it's hard not to compare this idea to the already present online tourneys by wombat. being that mid-level is hard to clarify, i'd go for something gimmicky like and edgemaster/mimic tournament (like mizieya said, iirc). i'm a bit at a loss for ideas, but yeah that's my two cents atm.

(note: i won't be able to join any tournaments, this one or otherwise, since my connection has been shaky the past few days.)
 
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