DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
We dont need it, SC used to already be tactical and exciting when skilled players could have GI struggles based on reflect not turtling. The stragical decisions came out of the execution and move chaining.
Soul Calibur 6 Discussion
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Slade
[14] Master
You should look up the definitions of tactics and strategy.
AriesWarlock
[12] Conqueror
I like the idea of meterless GI, but I do like meter bars and the options they can add to 3D fighters.
Slade
[14] Master
I'm considering whether or not I should dignify this with a refutation.
Party Wolf
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In SCV you can't block forever because of guard breaks. In older SC games there is literally no consequence for blocking mix ups, on top of being able to sidestep and guard at the same time. I don't see how SCV rewards turtling more than the prequels. GI is also more useful in this game because of meter management and it being able to work on all hit levels.
EDIT: When is say no consequence I am not including + on block moves since they exist in SCV also
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iMesmerise
[10] Knight
Agreed. I actually like the addition of meter in this game.
WuHT
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Meter is most likely here to stay simply because a lot of other big-name fighter franchises uses them and its almost unusual to not have "super moves".
I'm expecting jG to change though (as the superior meterless blocking alternative).
I'm expecting jG to change though (as the superior meterless blocking alternative).
Ramus
[14] Master
I am pretty neutral about it.
If stays good I don't mind, if it goes then what to do about.
But to be sincere I am part of a minority that liked Soul Calibur IV Soul Gauge system, most likely because in Broken Destiny it received some changes, ones that made CE comes more smoothly and the armor break more strategical.
If stays good I don't mind, if it goes then what to do about.
But to be sincere I am part of a minority that liked Soul Calibur IV Soul Gauge system, most likely because in Broken Destiny it received some changes, ones that made CE comes more smoothly and the armor break more strategical.
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
I like because of the brave edges, but the feter and CE feel gimmicky. This is probably the reason the move lists were cut in half. Most of the combos I used to do, can now only be done with meter. They're just sort of tacked on and it feels very much like a 2D fighter. Sure, I love 2D fighters, but they don't belong in a 3D game. I didn't like the idea of it initially, at all. Especially the CEs. I thought they'd detract from the momentum of gameplay.
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Real_Bojack
[10] Knight
How about keep the meter AND segregate it from defensive functions? Or make GI very, very, very economical to use.
Dior
[08] Mercenary
Meters, critical edges, brave edges, critical finishes and etc... argh -.-'
To hell with this, bring back our raw good Soulcalibur and it is solved.
To hell with this, bring back our raw good Soulcalibur and it is solved.
taffertier
[10] Knight
I like the meter system the game has now, it isnt perfect, but that it could be refined in the sequel. I'm with Jimbo in the idea that the next game should take SCV's mechanics and improve upon them.
jtdam09
[13] Hero
Someone has never played Soul Edge before.....
Dior
[08] Mercenary
Amen
Project Bokuho
[14] Master
I didn't really like the idea that PS removed plenty of moves from the command list for each character in SCV (I'm sure a lot of us felt that way). Sure people got over it, but it was kind of wasteful removing attacks from previous games after already being created. That's just me lol
REPROBEAN_CHILD
[14] Master
I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind the GIs costing meter. I have no idea what people like about reGIs when there was nothing good about them in the first place. All they did was ruin the flow of the game. If there's one thing I dislike about meter cost, though, is each GI costing 50%. 25% would have been enough.
I also don't mind about the movelist reduction from SCIV either. About 50% of the moves from each character was either useless or just not a good idea to use. Ivy had a HUGE number of moves in SCIV, but less than half were any good. Those moves were probably good for combo demonstrations, but they would be impractical in an actual fight. Plus, even with a reduced moveset, you can use a lot of the move given in SCV, unlike in SCIV.
There's nothing wrong with the meter system or the move list reduction. People just don't like change.
I also don't mind about the movelist reduction from SCIV either. About 50% of the moves from each character was either useless or just not a good idea to use. Ivy had a HUGE number of moves in SCIV, but less than half were any good. Those moves were probably good for combo demonstrations, but they would be impractical in an actual fight. Plus, even with a reduced moveset, you can use a lot of the move given in SCV, unlike in SCIV.
There's nothing wrong with the meter system or the move list reduction. People just don't like change.
Real_Bojack
[10] Knight
GIes were put in place in the first place specifically TO disrupt the flow of the opponent. Nothing good about a reGI? Are we playing the same game?
Nothing wrong with movelist reduction? Seriously? SC2 HD will be a strange experience for you.
REPROBEAN_CHILD
[14] Master
I talking about GI -> reGI -> reGI -> reGI -> reGI x10. THAT wasn't needed, so I'm satisfied with the meter cost.
I've already talked about SCIV having assess moves that were rendered useless. The same could be applied to SCII
Real_Bojack
[10] Knight
Only nobodies or scrubs get into prolonged GI battles. Top player GI battles last one~three GI'es TOPS and it's intense as shit when it happens.
Except they've taken MORE than the "ass" moves out of the game. NM no longer has proper 33A paddle (where he can choose where to paddle to RO), Raph crouch dash gone, Natsu/Taki WL A etc. etc. Leave the moves in and let every one decide what is ass and not because it's not at all like they've just taken the weaker moves out.
REPROBEAN_CHILD
[14] Master
WHO does the constant reGIs, top players or scrubs, isn't important. It's the fact they existed in the game and how easy they can be to start.
They're not going to leave in only the good moves. If they tried to make every character as flawless as possible, there would be potential balance issues.
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