Left 4 Dead

Jay, c'mon man. Don't be a killjoy. This game has a balence even with it being randomized. Im not gonna lie multiple tank spawns or early tank spawns are always suck. but even with that mother fucker, it could go either way. Random should never be a reason to dismiss the competitiveness of a game. Especially L4D where teamwork is an absolute requirement to succeed, if your team is a solid enough unit, they should be able survive any string of Bad Luck that the game throws at them. Alternatively, as the Infected, you may never get a Tank to help wreck shop. But with enough patience, coordation, and teamwork. Even a good surivor team can be handled. Its all about taking the hand your given and working with it. Kinda like life or card games.
 
JayShadow said:
That's sort of an odd game to compete in being randomized and all.
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yeah, that is a weird choice. Im curious to see what a competitive aspect of L4D looks like. IMO, the randomness isnt that huge of a factor in the MP since randomly generated hoarde mobs arent gonna pose much of a problem, and the AI director generally spawns 2 Hunters, 1 Smoker and 1 Boomer for the infected team, so the only real random aspect is which one you're gonna end up with. MP is more a game of attrition then anything else, from my exp with it.
 
Rekano said:
Jay, c'mon man. Don't be a killjoy. This game has a balence even with it being randomized. Im not gonna lie multiple tank spawns or early tank spawns are always suck. but even with that mother fucker, it could go either way. Random should never be a reason to dismiss the competitiveness of a game. Especially L4D where teamwork is an absolute requirement to succeed, if your team is a solid enough unit, they should be able survive any string of Bad Luck that the game throws at them. Alternatively, as the Infected, you may never get a Tank to help wreck shop. But with enough patience, coordation, and teamwork. Even a good surivor team can be handled. Its all about taking the hand your given and working with it. Kinda like life or card games.
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Yeah, well there's a difference between playing the versus game competitively for fun, which I always do, or playing it as a competitive sport. Competitive league people still complain about critical hits in TF2 due to their randomness. Do you think teams aren't gonna throw a fit when they get a shitty tank spawn, or no tank at all, which will happen all the time? Competitive teams don't buy 'bad luck' when it's the computer denying them the tools. How about they run a TF2 league where one team randomly can't use engineers for their turn on defense? Sure it can be done, but when records are on the line people get bent out of shape over anything.
 
i finally played this game yesterday for the first time and thought it was alright. the controls felt a little wonky to me but i guess its just something to get used to. its hard to imagine it being played "professionally" though... but like someone else mentioned, halo 3 is trash (even though i love it, dont get me wrong) and is still high priority over at mlg. that is due to money profits from popularity i'm sure, and left4dead seems to have a fairly good fanbase right now. so who knows.
 
This game is the fucking shit. Vs mode all day fucking long, as long as i've got friends online to play with. Especailly playing as the Infected. I wish i could just choose to do that all the time instead of switching to survivors. Not really to fond of the idea of playing with random teamates on vs. though. If any of you want to get a vs game going and see me on line, just shoot me an invite and 99% of the time i will stop whatever i'm doing to play.

That was awesome on Saturday Rekano. I had a blast. Sigel and i played last night too, and really kicked some ass. We no shit, honest to god scored "1337" after our first or second round or whatever. I wish i took a picture of that shit. Hilarious.
 
The_Landslide said:
Halo 3 is the most random FPS ever and MLG plays that shit.
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Halo3 has nothing on the randomness in L4D.

I was in a game the other day where my team got a total of 4 tanks (1, 1, 2) over 5 maps. The other team got 6 tanks (1, 1, 1, 1, 2), meaning on average they went further with more players.

It'd be like in any FPS randomly spawning vehicles for one team and not the other.
 
i dont know the random spawns for teams and stuff
1 team will spawn in a wide open area the other may start in an enclosed hall or something not really fair
but ya thats just the randomness of the game
need to balance somethings out with it 1st im hoping they will
 
AMillionHP said:
That was awesome on Saturday Rekano. I had a blast. Sigel and i played last night too, and really kicked some ass. We no shit, honest to god scored "1337" after our first or second round or whatever. I wish i took a picture of that shit. Hilarious.
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I too had an absolute blast. but my buddy XAL gets a quote of the night...

XAL: Can we speed run through it, I need to get off here.
Rekano: Speed run? You Sure? O.K! (jumps down through apartments, muscles way through zombie hordes gets to safe room with whoever kept up)
XAL: WTF!? (gets caught all alone by other team's hunter. WAY behind the rest of us) You guys gonna leave me?
Rekano: You said to speedrun it, said you were in a hurry.
 
Rekano said:
I too had an absolute blast. but my buddy XAL gets a quote of the night...

XAL: Can we speed run through it, I need to get off here.
Rekano: Speed run? You Sure? O.K! (jumps down through apartments, muscles way through zombie hordes gets to safe room with whoever kept up)
XAL: WTF!? (gets caught all alone by other team's hunter. WAY behind the rest of us) You guys gonna leave me?
Rekano: You said to speedrun it, said you were in a hurry.
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Yeah, i remember that. I thought it was you who brought up the idea to speed run to begin with but it was a lot funnier after you told me the guy who didn't make it said that.
 
YO! L4D NEWS, GUYS!

New DLC coming. No date but seems it was mentioned(twice) in a podcast.
http://left4dead411.com/
^My Source

...Im honestly hoping for a new Snow level campaign with some new dialouge.
"Lets hurry and get to that safe room, im freezing my ass off out here."
"Didn't think vampires liked the cold."
"Looks like we're going to have to cross this frozen lake, watch your step everyone!"
"AN AVALANCHE!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?"


yeah...Imagination, I love it.
 
flaw said:
i dont know the random spawns for teams and stuff
1 team will spawn in a wide open area the other may start in an enclosed hall or something not really fair
but ya thats just the randomness of the game
need to balance somethings out with it 1st im hoping they will
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What are you talking about? Survivors always spawn in the same locations. Infected can spawn wherever they choose so long as the survivors can't see them.

If you're talking about the waves of normal infected, that's the intentional randomness of the game based on how you're playing, it's part of the fun.
 
So yesterday I joined an Expert session with Sigel. We get to the finale and I am shown this neat spot where nothing hurts you. Everything, going to plan. I was told to throw my pipe bomb, I peek my face out and a smoker is all like "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" and snags me, then a lonely Boomer(obviously feeling left out) is all like "I WANT IN ON THIS SHIT!" and pukes on me.(Im guessing the hunters were so bored they decided to smoke some grass), I am left behind, thus not getting the Zombicial Manaic Achevo. But to my surprize, it counted toward "What are you trying to prove?"

Goods Games to Sigel and Landslide yesterday on that VS Mode.

And bad games to the faggot who killed us at the end of Death Toll 3, fucking random XBL douchefucks. Theres a reason I try to avoid playing with them.
 
Rekano, i play vs. with Sigel all the time. We should all get some games in together to help eliminate douche teamates.
 
Million: Agreed. I still need to Expert Death Toll, Dead Air, and Blood Harvest(UUUUUGGGGGGHHHH). I keep getting to Death Toll 4 on Single Player. But the random Tanks are fucking my shit up.

As for VS. That Mode is so much goddamn fun. The 360 needs an update patch, the zombies moving fuckin forklifts, dumpsters, and shit in the way so survivors get stuck is getting mad annoying. No need for it really, everytime I play. Our team on Zombies never need that shit to win. Sigel and I played a tough match on there yesterday morning, we about lost. lol.

Oh and rock sniping with a Tank is too fucking funny.
 
Just tried the last part of Blood harvest on expert for two hours and got no molotovs or pipe bombs the entire time! It was total bull.
 
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