The Official NEC9 Results Thread!

K3VIN_SORBO said:
REALLY !!!!!!!!!!!! u think? Dang man i didnt know that, I know what offline is and I know what online is, and you better listen up closely little seedling -- my style dont change up , no need to, cause I dont have a " ONLINE " style amy. Please dont be cliche with the whole " There is a huge gap between online and offline " when OOFMATIC and Something-UNIQUE and other assorted players play online alot and still rank high in tournements if not win them ( yes they also play offline to, but so do i )
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Your previous quote sounds as though you're making online as an excuse to making yourself look better.

The fact of the matter is we haven't heard anything about you in offline tournies so to come off saying like that to someone who travels frequently, who works hard and earns the crown through 87 contestants fair and square is like an insult and you get disrespected for posting that.

I know more about Oofmatic than you do, I've practiced with him since Soul Calibur 3 and the man has participated in a lot of tounies than you could ever imagine. He's a good offline player as well as a good online player. When an offline tourney comes that's when he disconnects and practices in offline gatherings.

For Something_Unique, I know that he migrated from online but I think there's something unique about him that makes him stand out, maybe he has good adaptation maybe itz his mind games or whatever. NEwayz after getting a good feel out of offline tournies he did admit that it messes up his performance in online.

But even though I say there is a huge gap btwn offline and online and I'll stick to it cuz I know from experience, but I did not indicate that you are gonna do bad offline.

Being good online is still a mystery how good you do offline and just because Something_Unique did well in tournies doesn't give u an excuse to sit in your crib and say "Oh I beat this guy hundreds of times online."

So all I'm say'n is watch what you're posting since you're someone we haven't heard off; otherwise, you'll get disrespect which you already had begin with and even if you do join an actual offline tourney, what if you place low? Think of the humiliation you would feel.
 
Franman:

When someone says something outlandish and follows up with "LOL" DONT TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY!!

Winning Online doesn't mean much.

DEFENDING AND ANTICIPATING ONLINE HOWEVER IS MORE LEET THAN OFFLINE!!

What did we learn???

ONLINE BUILDS BETTER DEFENSE AND ANTICIPATION OF THE OPPONENT THAN OFFLINE EVER WILL

For the most recent Proof, MATEO GALVAN won a "Madison?" Tourney, beating Pikachuchoi, after playing alot more online.

Its a Myth that online makes you worse. It only depends on how you play online.

Online is a viable way to get better at the game.

Strats wise is a different story...

Kevin_Sorbo - Good games Last Night. Your Amy is fun, but needs more setups to keep me guessing...

"66, 2B+K, 66, 2B+K....."
 
DINO, I don't think defense and anticipation is an online/offline thing, but more of a matter of experience in general.

It's just a lot easier to get mass experience online, since it is ALWAYS there. What I'm saying is the more you play any fighting game, the more recognizing setups/strats/animations becomes easier. If you're playing a bunch of people offline every single day, you'll probably get the exact same effect. You're right that because of delays you have to anticipate things earlier, but that doesn't change the fact that you're anticipating it in the first place. I don't think that aspect of learning the game really changes with lag.

Now in terms of reactionary defense (slow animations, sound cues, etc...), offline play is obviously going to help you out more.
 
Just too let everyone know, I'am not going to jip you guys, I will post all matches I have with, for and against the ATL Crew, including the loud grand Finals.

I am having a problem with my CPU uploading videos (they are skipping) so once I rectify this situation, the vids will go up on my youtube account and on the GA Community Blog.

My Y.Tube Account Info:http://www.youtube.com/user/LordIceman
Ga Community Blog: http://gagamingscene.blogspot.com/
 
Anyone that thinks they have something to prove offline should attend Final Round12! That will be the biggest SC4 of 2k9. Don't be the one that says; "Man I wish I would have went to FR12"!
 
franman said:
Your previous quote sounds as though you're making online as an excuse to making yourself look better.

The fact of the matter is we haven't heard anything about you in offline tournies so to come off saying like that to someone who travels frequently, who works hard and earns the crown through 87 contestants fair and square is like an insult and you don't get disrespected for posting that.

I know more about Oofmatic than you do, I've practiced with him since Soul Calibur 3 and the man has participated in a lot of tounies than you could ever imagine. He's a good offline player as well as a good online player. When an offline tourney comes that's when he disconnects and practices in offline gatherings.

For Something_Unique, I know that he migrated from online but I think there's something unique about him that makes him stand out, maybe he has good adaptation maybe itz his mind games or whatever. NEwayz after getting a good feel out of offline tournies he did admit that it messes up his performance in online.

But even though I say there is a huge gap btwn offline and online and I'll stick to it cuz I know from experience, but I did not indicate that you are gonna do bad offline.

Being good online is still a mystery how good you do offline and just because Something_Unique did well in tournies doesn't give u an excuse to sit in your crib and say "Oh I beat this guy hundreds of times online."

So all I'm say'n is watch what you're posting since you're someone we haven't heard off; otherwise, you'll get disrespect which you already had begin with and even if you do join an actual offline tourney, what if you place low? Think of the humiliation you would feel.
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Im really just sick and tired, I dont care who you know better then me, I dont care what any of you have done offline, I dont respect none of you until i play you in any scenario, i dont agree with anything anyone says, im ignorant in every means, im black yet im for slavery -- I was raised by Shawty Low and bunked with Diamond from Crime Mob. I wear tight shirts because of jim jones and i saw nothing but comedy in the movie Roots. Wassup ? Now there is something of a post to cry about, niglet.

Read and look at the orientation of my post(s), it was in a joking matter, you are just trying to come down on me because im not known to gain some sort of SoulCal Peace Prize or something for being condescending towards the little engine that could ( me ).

I speak highly about something-unique , dont believe me , go to gamefaq soulcal forum, anyone who even mentions trying to do a First to 10 with him I warn that he is on the brinks of being a god with kilik , IN MY EYES. Then again, I've seen Oofmatic pummel Something-Unique with his own kilik , not saying oof's kilik is better but oof is probably jsut a better SC player. Now why on earth would anyone take it seriously that I eat oof for breakfast and what i said to Something-Unique, there was comedy all in its context but im sorry he doesnt know " ATL HUMOR " that's his fault. If SU wants to take what i said seriously and disown me as a credible player/associate, fack'em, i wont lose no sleep. That's why he wont even reply to me bringing light to the situation as to the humor that was involved in my post, that's his boo boo.

D.I.N.O is a nation re-nouned player no ? I played him just the other day.......at the end of the day, minus oofmatic coming in there and popping that bubbly with agol, we were tied 14W-12L....although I know for a fact both are better and i've asked both for help to improve my game.
See figure A.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/nyong15/d244ad2e.jpg

I REPEAT THIS IS BY NO WAY A PIC PROVING IM BETTER THEN OOFMATIC, IT'S A PIC LETTING YOU KNOW, FRAN, I AINT NOBODY'S BYTCH. WHEN I THINK IM READY, WHICH IM NOT AT THIS MOMENT, PROBABLY BE READY WHEN FINAL ROUND COMES , I WILL BE JOINING THE RANKS OF JTO/WINGZERO/SWORDLORD/RTD AND OTHERS TO ACCOMPANY THEM IN TOURNEYS, AND I PROMISE U , I AM COMING TO FUCK'SUM UP. RATHER U THINK I WIN JUST ONLINE OR NOT, UNDERESTIMATE ME IF YOU WANT. THERE IS NO CHANGE UP FOR AMY PLAYERS FROM ONLINE TO OFFLINE, TRUST ME.

So rather you know who I am or not, YOU WILL.


Dude, I didnt start playing soul caliber " ONLINE " , i started offline with some humble guys here in atlanta, you think i would really post here if i thought I can only get away with stuff online and just fail offline?. Something-Unique adapted to offline play pretty easy to win his first tourney rather or not the tourney he won was full of scrubs or not. Trust me , the group of individuals that are considered some beast online that all flock together ( including myself ) 90% of have some OFFLINE experience.

And with a [5] connection fran, online is just like offline , only really lag u get is on those graphic heavy stages. And Oofmatic and KrayzieCD/LostinTime taught me to only use stuff I would do offline even online, so my amy plays the same, I played SwordLord also offline rather u respect his skill or not , as he is good with all chars in this game , he didnt pick his main but for a " NOBODY " as you say i walked away with about 12 more wins then he did and I ONLY used AMY and VOLDO. If he even did pick his mains i already have a nasty cas/sophitia in my offline training so i was prepared for alot of things i thought he would throw at me other then " MAXI " .


PS - If i place low in my first 2 or 3 tourneys, what that mean to me n*gga ? u know waht that means to me ? damn, i lost 20 bucks :( Now i cant pay my rent...zamn. Get a life bucko, winning isnt everything , it's cool to win, and it's my goal to win, but i know i can also lose but im cool with that too. If I play someone like Cody/Thuggish/DINO/RTD/JTO etc etc and i lose but at the end of the match they tell me " GOOD SH*T " thats' better then winning, that means im respected and I dont have to hear from bood'azz people like u. Who blow things out of proportions from a lil ole post.

Now let that be the end of it, I wont even bother posting here no more , ill show myself approved when I go to these tourneys. bye bye now.
 
Kevin, I'll be the first to owe you an apology. I didn't really understand the sarcasm of your post; however, there's a couple things I want to point out.

-I didn't say that you're gonna suck offline. I've indicated that being good online is one thing but offline is a mystery since we haven't heard much about you in offline competitions.

-Who knows you maybe someone who may end up being good as Something_Unique, Offbeatninja or whomever, but all I'm just say'n watch what you're posting. The problem is that joke is not very obvious to me and a few others and the fact that you're new here would take some time for others to understand your style of posting. The point is so that in your first tourney or second or whatever you would have a clear start even if do lose 20 bucks at least ppl on the forums won't be humiliating you just like some dude did.

-I don't agree that a 5-bar connection is just like offline, there are still obvious lows that I couldn't block and the timing of the GI's is much harder. I rather react to certain moves than to guess but of course when it comes to guessing I rather prefer an educated guess than a lucky one.

-If you do join an offline tournament than you deserve my respect I don't care if you place high or low you've tried at least.

-If do continue than you'll gain more of my respect cuz it shows dedication. Yes I do know "Winning isn't everything" to you, me and some ppl here, but nonetheless that's the purpose of every tournament "Play-to-win" as Sirlin quoted. I've played two tournaments not only to win but to meet new competitors and earn their respect.

Well at least you've blurted a bit more about yourself, nice knowing you.

Let's just cut the crap and I'll take the blame for starting this.
 
franman said:
Kevin, I'll be the first to owe you an apology. I didn't really understand the sarcasm of your post; however, there's a couple things I want to point out.

-I didn't say that you're gonna suck offline. I've indicated that being good online is one thing but offline is a mystery since we haven't heard much about you in offline competitions.

-Who knows you maybe someone who may end up being good as Something_Unique, Offbeatninja or whomever, but all I'm just say'n watch what you're posting. The problem is that joke is not very obvious to me and a few others and the fact that you're new here would take some time for others to understand your style of posting. The point is so that in your first tourney or second or whatever you would have a clear start even if do lose 20 bucks at least ppl on the forums won't be humiliating you just like some dude did.

-I don't agree that a 5-bar connection is just like offline, there are still obvious lows that I couldn't block and the timing of the GI's is much harder. I rather react to certain moves than to guess but of course when it comes to guessing I rather prefer an educated guess than a lucky one.

-If you do join an offline tournament than you deserve my respect I don't care if you place high or low you've tried at least.

-If do continue than you'll gain more of my respect cuz it shows dedication. Yes I do know "Winning isn't everything" to you, me and some ppl here, but nonetheless that's the purpose of every tournament "Play-to-win" as Sirlin quoted. I've played two tournaments not only to win but to meet new competitors and earn their respect.

Well at least you've blurted a bit more about yourself, nice knowing you.

Let's just cut the crap and I'll take the blame for starting this.
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Peace is always the way, i will join u in that path. I apologize for any misconstrued intention in my post that started the melee, but not for anything else i said.
 
I will say this,

I have played sorbo online and even though I suck horribly online I can still see this guy's amy is very talented. Ive seen him do things that I dont see other amy players use and and it got me thinking "Wow.....I didnt know that was free." Now ofcourse I would like to see how he does in an offline tournament against some of our best but fair warning, dont sleep on him, He'll surprise ya.

sorbo- I`d actually like to play you at FR because I am a very different player offline and online you raped me bad so I feel like I have something to prove.
 
K3VIN_SORBO said:
And with a [5] connection fran, online is just like offline , only really lag u get is on those graphic heavy stages.
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... When you are gaming online, there are two metrics you need to worry about: Ping and Bandwidth. The connection chart of most online games ONLY measures ping... this includes SoulcaliburIV's "Bar" system. Ping measures how long it takes data to travel from one node to another; so the lower the ping the better... a [5] bar connection in SC4 means you have a low ping. It means it doesn't take a long time for data to transfer from one player to another...

The problem however is that this measurement in SC4 does not also take account for BANDWIDTH... (lots of PC games do, SC4 does not) Bandwidth measures how much data can be sent AT ONCE from one node to another. If you have a low ping and high bandwidth, that is good, and you will get a [5] bar connection. However, if you have a low ping and low bandwidth, that is just as bad as having a high ping... but in SC4, you will still get a [5] bar connection... even though the pipes cant handle it. You can play against someone across the street with a 56k modem... it will be worse than playing someone across the country with a T3.

Another problem is the way SC4 handles inputs. During a hiccup of lag, SC4 will THROW OUT the inputs during those lost frames. If you were inputting something and then it lags for the frames you are inputting, the game will simply ignore those inputs. In Virtua Fighter 5 (which has much better netcode), during a lag hiccup the game will instead buffer your inputs into memory... then when the lag hiccup ends, it will process your inputs at the speed and frames at which you inputted. So you barely notice the lag at all...

SC4 is just so poorly programmed on so many fronts and the netcode is just horrid... on both consoles.
 
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about... When you are gaming online, there are two metrics you need to worry about: Ping and Bandwidth. The connection chart of most online games ONLY measures ping... this includes SoulcaliburIV's "Bar" system. Ping measures how long it takes data to travel from one node to another; so the lower the ping the better... a [5] bar connection in SC4 means you have a low ping. It means it doesn't take a long time for data to transfer from one player to another...

The problem however is that this measurement in SC4 does not also take account for BANDWIDTH... (lots of PC games do, SC4 does not) Bandwidth measures how much data can be sent AT ONCE from one node to another. If you have a low ping and high bandwidth, that is good, and you will get a [5] bar connection. However, if you have a low ping and low bandwidth, that is just as bad as having a high ping... but in SC4, you will still get a [5] bar connection... even though the pipes cant handle it. You can play against someone across the street with a 56k modem... it will be worse than playing someone across the country with a T3.

Another problem is the way SC4 handles inputs. During a hiccup of lag, SC4 will THROW OUT the inputs during those lost frames. If you were inputting something and then it lags for the frames you are inputting, the game will simply ignore those inputs. In Virtua Fighter 5 (which has much better netcode), during a lag hiccup the game will instead buffer your inputs into memory... then when the lag hiccup ends, it will process your inputs at the speed and frames at which you inputted. So you barely notice the lag at all...

SC4 is just so poorly programmed on so many fronts and the netcode is just horrid... on both consoles.
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thanks, i dont know if im more excited about knowing the mechanics of how SC4 as a application handles data thoroughly now or that you talked directly to me.
 
lordiceman826 said:
Just too let everyone know, I'am not going to jip you guys, I will post all matches I have with, for and against the ATL Crew, including the loud grand Finals.

I am having a problem with my CPU uploading videos (they are skipping) so once I rectify this situation, the vids will go up on my youtube account and on the GA Community Blog.

My Y.Tube Account Info:http://www.youtube.com/user/LordIceman
Ga Community Blog: http://gagamingscene.blogspot.com/
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still not yet!? WE NEED THESE VIDS!!!
 
Can someone tell me what characters the Top 4 winners used?

Sorry for bumping this, I just wanted to know. Thanks in advance.

Man, this tourney is huge!
 
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