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Jaxel

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Character Notations​

  • RoH = Ring of Heaven
  • JFT = Just Frame Twister (2143a:B)

Horizontal Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Petal Slash 12 12 -15 -8 +2 2 X
:A: :H: :G: cancel
Petal Slash 12 12,14 -15 -8 +4 +4 X
:A::A: :H::H: NC
Rising Red Moon 21* 40 -31 -22 LNC LNC 8
:a-small::g-small::B: :M: TC
*Attack occurs after completion of input.
Rising Red Moon 21* 40 -31 -22 LNC LNC 8
:a-small:::g-small:::B: :M: TC / Clean Hit C
*Attack occurs after completion of input.
Fastest input 3F results in the move being i24.
Slower inputs result in slower non-JF version.
Tousled Hair Slash 22 16 -13 -8 0 0 15
:6::A: :H:
Tousled Hair Slash 22,45 16,20 -23 -16 +4 +4 13
:6::A::A: :H::M: NC / STN on CH of 2nd hit
Willow Slash 21 20 -13 -6 +4 +4 -
:3::A: :M: TC / ~FC
Grasscutter 13 12 -11 -6 +8 +8 X
:2::A: :SL: TC / ~FC
Sakura Air Combo 22 14 -27 -25 -13 -13
:1::A: :L:
Sakura Air Combo 22,43 14,14 -26 -22 -11 -10
:1::A::A: :L::M: NC
Sakura Air Combo 22,43 14,14 -26 -22 KND KND
:1::A:::A: :L::M: NC
Sakura Air Combo 22 14,14,18(46) n/a n/a KND KND n/a
:1::A:::A:::A: :L::M::H: NC
Winter Stitch 21 28 -18 -12 +7 +7 13
:4::A: :H: TC / Opp. ~BT (hit)
Stalk Clipper 12 12 -11 -6 +8 +8 (31)
FC :A: :SL: TC / ~FC
Sakura Twister 11* 36 -31 -22 KND KND 14
FC :3::aB: :M: TC[1~] / TJ / Clean Hit C
* Fastest allowed non-JF input of 2F results in the move being i13.
Sakura Twister 11* 42 -31 -22 KND KND 12
FC :3::a-small:::B: :M: TC[1~] / TJ / Clean Hit B
*Attack occurs after input, fastest allowed input 1F results in the move being i12.
Stone Seed Draw 17 28 -17 -4 +6 +8 15
WR :A: :H: TC
Shadow Blossom 28 20*22*24 -15 -7 +6 +6
:7:*:8:*:9::A: :H: TJ [3~] / Opp. ~BT (hit)
Winter Breeze 14 12 -13 -8 +4 +4 -
BT :A: :H:
Blind Grasscutter 16 12 -13 -6 +4 +8 -
BT :2::A: :SL: ~FC

Vertical Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Wingbeat Slicer 16 16 -15 -8 +2 +2 (19)*15
:B: :M: :G: cancel / Only breaks from WL
Wingbeat Slicer 16 16,16 -15 -8 +4 +4 (14.5)*12.5
:B::B: :M::M: NC / Only breaks from WL
Winter Funeral 18* 46 -31 -22 KND KND 13
:bA: :M: TC
* Attack begins at completion of input.
Fastest input results in i19.
Moonlight Thrust 16 18 -15 -6 +6 +6 16
:6::B: :M:
Soaring Bird 19 24 -17 -10 LNC SLNC 12
:3::B: :M: TC
Waterfowl Slice 17 18 -15 -8 +2 +2 -
:2::B: :M: ~FC
Reverse Pheasant 17 10 -27< -18 -12 -12 (19)*15
:1::B: :M: Only breaks from WL
Reverse Pheasant 17 20,43 -17 -8 STN STN (14.5)*12.5
:1::B:::B: :M::M: NC / JF[F18] / Only breaks from WL
Heartening Strike 17 24 -21 -12 +2 +2 12
:4::B: :H:
Petal Slicer 16 18 -15 -8 +2 +2 -
FC :B: :M: ~FC
Shade Thrust 15 14 -24< -20 -4 STN
FC :3::B: :M: TC
Shade Thrust 15,42 14,23 -22 -7 KND STN -
FC :3::B:::B: :M::M: TC / NC / JF[14-16]
Crescent Blade 17 18 -17 -8 +7 STN 13
WR :B: :M: TC / CH STN[12]
Moon Divide 28 24*26*28 -15 -6 +6 +6 13
:7:*:8:*:9::B: :M: TJ [3~]
Silver Slicer 18 16 -14 -7 +5 -
BT :B: :M:
Windbeat Strike 18 18 -13 -8 +2 -
BT :2::B: :M: ~FC

Kick Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Rising Sun Kick 13 14 -15 -8 +2 2 X
:K: :H: :G: cancel
Knee Seduction 15 12 -19 -13 +2 STN
:6::K: :M: CH STN[?]
Page Heel Kick 16 16 -13 -8 +2 +2 -
:3::K: :M:
Crouching Side Kick 15 16 -15 -14 -2 -2
:2::K: :L: ~FC
Fall Kick Extinguish 20 20 -23 -14 KND KND 13
:1::K: :M: TJ / Opp. FrC (block)
Keeper Side Kick 18 26 -17 -8 +4 +4
:4::K: :M:
Shin Kick 14 16 -15 -14 -2 -2 (31)
FC :K: :L: ~FC / gRV[-13~-14] / hRV[-1~-2]
Rising Front Kick 15 16 -13 -8 +2 +2
WR :K: :M:
Rising Heel Flame 24 16*18*20 -15 -8 +2 +8
:7:*:8:*:9::K: :M: TJ [3~]
Rising Moon Kick 15 16 -14 -7 +3 -
BT :K: :H:
Torching Kick 17 14 -17 -14 -2 -
BT :2::K: :L: ~FC

Simultaneous Press​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Mirror Blade n/a :SS: -9~11 n/a n/a n/a n/a
:A+B: :GI: Gains 1 level for each GI:M:[All F5-11]
-35 on whiff
Mirror Blade :GI:[Lvl 1-3] n/a 18 n/a :SS: +6 6 n/a
:A+B: or :A+B::6: :M:
Mirror Blade :GI:[Lvl 4-5] n/a 20 n/a :SS: LNC SLNC n/a
:A+B: or :A+B::4: :M:
Mirror Blade :GI:[Lvl 6-7] n/a 20 n/a n/a STN STN n/a
:A+B: or :A+B::2: :M: STN[26] Highs must be i19 or faster to connect
Mirror Blade :GI:[Lvl 8] n/a 20,18,44 n/a n/a KND KND n/a
:A+B: :M: :AT:
Mirror Blade :GI:[Lvl 8] n/a 20 n/a n/a -4 -4 n/a
:A+B: :M: Tip range no :AT:
Half Moon Shadow 34 24 -27 -16 STN STN
:2::A+B: :L: ~FC
Rising Moon 22 16 -27 -16 STN STN 15
FC :3::A+B: :M: TC
Sakura Fury Combo 24 20 -19 -14 -4 12
:B+K: :M:
Sakura Fury Combo 24 38 - +6
:B+K: :6::2::B: :M: :AT:
Sakura Fury Combo 24 71 - KND
:B+K: :6::2::B: :1::1::A::+::B: :M: :AT: NC
Silver Moon Combo 24 82 - STN
:B+K: :6::2::B::4::4::B::+::K: :M: :AT: NC
Crescent Lash 22 20 -16 -1 KND KND 14
:2::B+K: :M: Opp. FrC (block) / Low crush [8~]
Watery Moon 15 26 -26 -16 STN STN 15
BT :B+K: :M:
Rainy Moon 15,47 55 -17 +8 LNC LNC 6.5
BT :B+K:::B: :M::M: :GC: / NC / JF[F13-16]

8-Way Run Moves​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Shadow Cutter 18 26 -17 -8 +6 +6 15
:6::(6)::A: :H:
Shadow Cutter 18 26 -17 -8 +6 STN 15
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::A: :H: CH STN[8]
Mist Cutter 17 14 -19 -13 -2
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::A: :H:
Mist Cutter 17,42 32 -16 -5 STN STN
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::A::A: :H::H: NC / Delayable
Horizon Sweeper 28 22 -23 -16 +2 KND
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::A: :L: TC / ~FC
Crescent Slash 20 30 -19 -12 +6 +6 13
:4::(4)::A: :H: Opp. ~BT (hit)
Mourning Thrust 19 26 -21 -8 STN STN 13
:6::(6)::B: :M:
Rising Crescent 17 24 -20 -11 LNC STN 15
:3::(3):*:9::(9)::B: :M: TC[11~] / CH STN[15+]
Shade Barrage 20 18 -25 -16 LNC LNC
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B: :M:
Shade Barrage 20,48 18,18(32) -17 -2 KND KND 10
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::B::A: :M::H: NC
Crescent Strike 28 26 -19 -8 LNC LNC 10
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::B: :M: Opp. FrC (block) / Clean Hit C
Silver Stab 18 28 -19 -12 STN STN 15
:4::(4)::B: :M:
Shadow Hunter 23 20 -15 -4 +8 +8 11
:6::(6):*:3::(3):*:9::(9)::K: :H: TJ
Heel Hook Kick 20 24 -19 -8 KND KND 13
:2::(2):*:8::(8)::K: :M:
Backspin Snow Sweeper 27 16 -19 -16 +2 +2
:1::(1):*:7::(7)::K: :L: ~FC / Opp. FrC (hit)
Shade Roundhouse 19 26 -23 -10 KND KND 15
:4::(4)::K: :H:
Kingfisher Divide 33 38*40 -21 -6 STN STN 7
:6::(6):*:3::(3):*:9::(9)::A+B: :M: Opp. FrC (block) / Clean Hit B / STN[8+]
Divine Moon 61 50 -26 :UA: STN -
:4::(4)::A+B: :M: TJ / :G: cancel
Silver Shadow 14 36 -23 -14 STN STN 13
:4::(4)::B+K: :H:
Sliding Scraper 21 26 -25 -22 KND KND
RUN :K: :L: TJ

Edge Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Formless Shade Buster 10* 40 -27 -18 KND KND 15
:2::aA+B+K: :M: :BE: Clean Hit C
*Attack occurs at completion of input.
Fastest allowed input 4F results in i14.
Formless Last Moon 15 51 -21 -12 KND STN 7
FC :3::B:::bA+B+K: :M::M::M: :BE: NC / TC
Formless Silver Night 14 26 -27< 2 STN STN 13
:(4)::b-small::+::kA+B+K: :H: :GC::BE:
Transcending Rapture 8 5,50 -35~ -20 KND KND 10
:2::3::6::2::3::6::A+B+K: :M: :CE::AT: / Invincible[5~] / TS

Throw Attacks​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Crescent Sweep 17 20 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
:A+G: :H: :A: break
Moon Wind 17 55 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
:B+G: :H: :B: break
Shadow Descent 17 60 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
Left :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :A:*:B: break
Vermilion Moon 17 65 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
Right :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :A:*:B: break
Snow Gate 17 65 :TH: :TH: KND KND :TH:
Behind :A+G:*:B+G: :H: :A:*:B: break (Astaroth, Voldo, and Z.W.E.I. only)
Dark Water Cutter 17 30 :TH: :TH: STN STN :TH:
:2::1::4::B+G: :H: :B: break / STN[13]

Special Stances​

Ring of Heaven​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Ring of Heaven X X X X +X X :SS:
:8::A+B: :SS: TJ / ~BT
Breaking Wave 20 20 -18 -3 STN STN
RoH :A: :H: ~BT / +11 on hit
Island Divide 25 14 -22 -12 KND KND
RoH :B: :M: Opp. FrC (block) / LNC grounded

Dawn Haze​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Dawn Haze X X X X X X :SS:
:2::1::4: :SS: TC / Allows instant access to FC attacks

Twilight Haze​

Attack IMP DMG JG GRD HIT CH GB
Twilight Haze X X X X X X :SS:
:2::3::6: :SS: TC / Allows instant access to 8-Way Run attacks
 

thenewperson

Fighter
@Slade The fact that you can't input slides in one frame also affect RoH attacks? Like, RoH A does punish -20 stuff, but does the input make it actually i19?
 
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Slade

[14] Master
@Slade The fact that you can't input slides in one frame also affect RoH attacks? Like, RoH A does punish -20 stuff, but does the input make it actually i19?
RoH functions as a stance and there's nothing particularly odd about the input, so RoH A is most likely just i20.
 

Slade

[14] Master
@thenewperson
That's a neat video. 2A BE is hitting at F14 where F1 is this input:
:A:
:(2):

But the A+B+K doesn't come out until 3 frames after that. My interpretation is that the first 3 frames will always be the first 3 startup frames of 2A, and only after those will the A+B+K input be accepted and allow 2A BE to come out, which effectively makes it i14 at its fastest. I should update the wiki for consistency with how the frames for JFT and other weird input moves are shown.

EDIT: Updated wiki entry for 2A BE, added asterisks to affected impact values to draw attention to the notes about how these particular moves work. Unfortunately I can't give a reason for why 2A A+B+K's input seems to be delayed in this way rather than allowing inputs 1F in succession. It may be arbitrary or there might be something about the A+B+K input that causes this.
 
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thenewperson

Fighter
@Slade I decided to try this a few more times and a few observations:

An issue I discovered is that any attempt to slide as fast as possible gives 2A+B. Weird.

I uploaded 2 more videos. Here's the first, with a different stage + costume (just in case):


The animation after the A+B+K input is now 12 frames (with a 2 frame delay between 2A and A+B+K). So one could conclude (as you did) that the animation compensates for the delay in input and 2aBE always comes out as i14. (In this one I switched my B and A+B+K binds so I could slide just as I would for twister)

But then there's the second video:


Here it's i15‽ Still 12 frames after A+B+K which is 3 frames after 2A. (Here I tried plinking the inputs)

Really weird.
 
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Slade

[14] Master
There's nothing that stops these types of moves from being slower than the fastest speed. It's the reason that non-JF twister or agB are slower than their JF counterparts.
 

thenewperson

Fighter
Oh definitely. I was more surprised that it didn't compensate there even though I hit A+B+K faster than in the first video. I think I'll just try a few more later.