Amy broken ?

I hate to agree but the LORD is right on a few things:

1. An effective Amy is a good Amy. Period. however, the player also determines the amy also. Here are a few examples:

Thugish-Pond: Cheap amy. Uses nothing but 50/50 because he doesn't like anything else. Uses simple lows to poke and annoy you, and a few highs to keep you guessing. That's all. He has showed what she can do against other characters like Hilde (i can't talk about STD because i can't youtube @ work and all i'm basing this off of is the few vids i remember seeing @ home when i got the chance to.)

Sword-Lord: uses more options with Amy, but will continue to use the 50/50 option. (basing info off the time i played him.) problem is, sometimes the other options can be seen on reaction. now grant it, he is right about amy players that play against hilde's that the B+K is an option with amy because of the auto-GI properties. Other than that, he's still a solid player.

Myself: probably the most complex amy out there. (ask whodat...took him awhile to figure me out...in which he still questions me. lol). Now, not to say i'm crazy but i can see almost all of the charges on reaction. Ask Michael Jackson. but back then, i was brave. Not so much anymore. I use Amy's strong CF game (yes she does have one.) plus her speed and size against my opponet to effectively fight against him.

Moving on: to those of you that play CaS amy's or That other hooker, who cares. don't let the crybaby scrubs on here complain about them. so what they have more range. They also eat combos/juggles that amy can't. That's the double-edge sword between them. Same for The asta bonus character. She can't do combos and setups that asta can. It is wat it is.

soo...she's good; yes. Broken; shut up. No she's not. SC3 X was WAYYYYYYY worse than this bitch. If you don't beleive me, go back and play X in both SC2 and SC3. until then...please stop complaining about amy being broken, she's far from it.
 
Chickenwing said:
I hate to agree but the LORD is right on a few things:

1. An effective Amy is a good Amy. Period. however, the player also determines the amy also. Here are a few examples:

Thugish-Pond: Cheap amy. Uses nothing but 50/50 because he doesn't like anything else. Uses simple lows to poke and annoy you, and a few highs to keep you guessing. That's all. He has showed what she can do against other characters like Hilde (i can't talk about STD because i can't youtube @ work and all i'm basing this off of is the few vids i remember seeing @ home when i got the chance to.)

Sword-Lord: uses more options with Amy, but will continue to use the 50/50 option. (basing info off the time i played him.) problem is, sometimes the other options can be seen on reaction. now grant it, he is right about amy players that play against hilde's that the B+K is an option with amy because of the auto-GI properties. Other than that, he's still a solid player.

Myself: probably the most complex amy out there. (ask whodat...took him awhile to figure me out...in which he still questions me. lol). Now, not to say i'm crazy but i can see almost all of the charges on reaction. Ask Michael Jackson. but back then, i was brave. Not so much anymore. I use Amy's strong CF game (yes she does have one.) plus her speed and size against my opponet to effectively fight against him.

Moving on: to those of you that play CaS amy's or That other hooker, who cares. don't let the crybaby scrubs on here complain about them. so what they have more range. They also eat combos/juggles that amy can't. That's the double-edge sword between them. Same for The asta bonus character. She can't do combos and setups that asta can. It is wat it is.

soo...she's good; yes. Broken; shut up. No she's not. SC3 X was WAYYYYYYY worse than this bitch. If you don't beleive me, go back and play X in both SC2 and SC3. until then...please stop complaining about amy being broken, she's far from it.
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Sometimes people who play fighters too much makes their move set too complex and just need to dumb it down. You see people play and call them cheap, but in reality they just keep their move set simple and try to be effective as possible with it. But of course this is talking about playing offline
 
Chickenwing said:
I hate to agree but the LORD is right on a few things:

1. An effective Amy is a good Amy. Period. however, the player also determines the amy also. Here are a few examples:

Thugish-Pond: Cheap amy. Uses nothing but 50/50 because he doesn't like anything else. Uses simple lows to poke and annoy you, and a few highs to keep you guessing. That's all. He has showed what she can do against other characters like Hilde (i can't talk about STD because i can't youtube @ work and all i'm basing this off of is the few vids i remember seeing @ home when i got the chance to.)

Sword-Lord: uses more options with Amy, but will continue to use the 50/50 option. (basing info off the time i played him.) problem is, sometimes the other options can be seen on reaction. now grant it, he is right about amy players that play against hilde's that the B+K is an option with amy because of the auto-GI properties. Other than that, he's still a solid player.

Myself: probably the most complex amy out there. (ask whodat...took him awhile to figure me out...in which he still questions me. lol). Now, not to say i'm crazy but i can see almost all of the charges on reaction. Ask Michael Jackson. but back then, i was brave. Not so much anymore. I use Amy's strong CF game (yes she does have one.) plus her speed and size against my opponet to effectively fight against him.

Moving on: to those of you that play CaS amy's or That other hooker, who cares. don't let the crybaby scrubs on here complain about them. so what they have more range. They also eat combos/juggles that amy can't. That's the double-edge sword between them. Same for The asta bonus character. She can't do combos and setups that asta can. It is wat it is.

soo...she's good; yes. Broken; shut up. No she's not. SC3 X was WAYYYYYYY worse than this bitch. If you don't beleive me, go back and play X in both SC2 and SC3. until then...please stop complaining about amy being broken, she's far from it.
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I won't repeat myself for the third time lol - Amy's 50/50 is dangerous and effective. Other tools to use on oki do exist - most of them are seeable on reaction, like you said - especially if you don't mix things up.

I try to be a bit creative when playing with Amy, without detrimenting my game. Like using 66A on oki. If they guard it, I'm +frames on block - if they lay grounded, they'll risk ating a BT B+K, which is nice. Yeah, it's another guessing game either way.

Shame that Amy doesn't gained anything useful in BD - only minor nerfs. (and no none here cares at all to explore them).
 
honestly: had i had the time (and the money) to rent the game, i would, just to test anything that she has. but i'm still revisiting how and why FF7's materia system is the most fucked up system that Square-Enix ever created.

Current progress (on PSP): Disc 1, just finished Wutai area....already have Choco-Mog lvl 4....and almost finished Fire, Ice, and Lightning to Lvl 3....

Anywho, yea keep playin the character you all play, who cares what version it is, just know that if i ever play you, i'll know what i can and can't do.... :D
 
oh what do all of you know. Personally when I play Amy sometimes I just want to give up. Never in the world nobody ever beat me 10 times in a row with any other character but Amy or Hilde. You are blissed in your ignorance.
 
Belial, you're a awesome Mitsu - everyone knows that. But justifying yourself, blaming Amy and her "top-tiereness" won't change the character and her gameplay - at all. Moot point.
 
If amy is not broken as wasSC3 X, in sc4 she's definitively top tier. And i think there is no more 10 to 20 players in this forum able to create problem to belial in game, so you should listen to him instead to argue "she 's not top tier, she is complex and the player level is very important, bla bla"
 
Belial said:
oh what do all of you know. Personally when I play Amy sometimes I just want to give up. Never in the world nobody ever beat me 10 times in a row with any other character but Amy or Hilde. You are blissed in your ignorance.
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Come on man, i've seen your vids. I respect your mitsu, but don't make me not respect you because of the fact that you just may have a weakness against amy. You say that amy is broken, but yet in still, how can you prove it. Your post that was quoted in the beginning may have some good points, but it still doesn't compare to SC2/SC3 X. Not by a long shot. All we are looking for are key valid points to how Amy is broken. Otherwise, it's really isn't worth arguing. She's not dominating the tournament scenes. And if she is, i'd sure like to see.

Again, Amy is good, NO ONE is arguing that, but she's not the best.
 
It's true Amy is broken and unbeatable. She is so good she keeps new players from wanting to play the game. I wonder how long until Jaxel bans her.
 
Ahriman said:
If amy is not broken as wasSC3 X, in sc4 she's definitively top tier. And i think there is no more 10 to 20 players in this forum able to create problem to belial in game, so you should listen to him instead to argue "she 's not top tier, she is complex and the player level is very important, bla bla"
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I lol'd

No one said that Amy is complex, difficult character to use/master - she's just damn simple and effective at the same time.
Belial crushes Amy for breakfast - he has his own opinion on the matter and I respect that. But it's way more counterproductive discuss how explore her holes in the game (Belial already done that in another topic made by tresto), than claiming she's the most broken character in the SC story.

Bitching is way easier, isn't it? - also, banning. That way we won't have to deal with Amy anyome, and everyone'll be happy. So, let's ban Amy. NOW.

And Kilik. FOTD into Asura and Rising B are reasons enough. And he's uncool. :(
 
She is top tier, not the first, but in the upper tier for sure. That's a fact and when i read that a good amy must be played by a good player i must seriously consider that's whinning. No reasons to ban her anyway...
And please stop drama, there's no international plot against your favorite loliwhore
 
What a lame drama LOL
The player level IS important considering Belial beat easily all the strongest american Amy player players. Her easy offense only really works if you have all the others skills top notch (defense/strategy/spacing...) and manage to get your patterns unpredictable. I would be winning every tournament if all you needed was use her 50/50 + wake up game. But guess what, at the last tournament I lost in preliminary rounds :)

The point was more that a very well played Amy is a nightmare to deal with, and it seems you haven't reached this point at USA... I have experienced playing vs Belial's Amy when he came to France a couple weeks ago and it was just "WTF can I do against that ?!".

But nevermind. Nearly no players can take Amy to that level, and most of them who could chose to play another character.
I'm sticking with Amy and trying though, but it takes time. I do manage occasionally to get some people to whine "baaah this is broken shit this character makes no sense", so I guess I'm getting there LOL
 
tresto said:
What a lame drama LOL
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I'm sticking with Amy and trying though, but it takes time. I do manage occasionally to get some people to whine "baaah this is broken shit this character makes no sense", so I guess I'm getting there LOL
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Same - Amy 'till the end <3
 
No, she is not hard to play, no she doesnt need a lot of skill to play.
If you lose with amy you are being heavily outplayed.

Everything else I've already said earlier.
 
The point was more that a very well played Amy is a nightmare to deal with

EDIT: A very well played Nightmare is an Amy to deal with (e. g., Keev).

Sorry, just could not help myself when the forum script highlighted both words in Tresto's post :)
 
And Keev's secondary character is Amy. ahahaha !

Belial, I think you have got so used to high level play that you don't realize how unusual your overall skills are anymore. You step well, you mixup well, you adapt fast, you apply pressure at the right times, and more than anything else you read your opponent well. So since your attack is already very good with Mitsu, if you pick a character that's stronger with simpler mechanics, you'll do even better.

This doesn't mean that winning with any character at high level is easy. It's only easy if you already master all the other parts of the big picture.

BTW I managed to win matches vs you with all of my characters except for Amy (even Yoshi!). How ironical ;)
I won't deny you outplayed me though. I still need to work a lot !
 
I haven't personally played any Amy that plays at the ultimate level of gay with her and I myself am not at that level either cause I only use her a little. I just recognize the possibilities and I see her as being broke.

Xianghua on the other hand, I've played a good number of sc3 Xianghua masters, and I myself am one also. That bitch isn't as hard to deal with as as Amy. The main thing that people bitch about with sc3 X is the cancel, and that move is very readable and can only be done after certain moves after an offensive flurry, and unsafe to use when defending an offensive flurry (it's more a midrange move). It's not that hard to deal with.
Amy's lows do far more damage, are far faster, and are harder to punish (besides sc3 X's 1A, which you can sort of take away the advantage on hit of if you're using Sophie or Cass).
 
hmm I played the first ft10 rather concentrated (and I think you only win 1 or 2 rounds in that). in the rest when I see you get hit by some stupid move I just did it over and over again until you learn how to deal with it so its natural I lose a game or two when I spam like this.
its just i hate to lose vs amy , i put in a little more effort when you picked her.
 
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