Balance Patch Community Vote

[Sacharja]

Spoiler

TEMPLATE:

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1 a
2 b
3 bc
4 a

CHARACTER CHANGES

5 a
6 ab
7 c
8 ab
9 -
10 a
11 a
12 b
13 -
14 -
15 a
16 a
17 c
18 b
19 ab
20 -
21 a
22 a
23 b
24 a
25 a
26 a
27 a
28 -
29 c
30 a
31 -
32 a
33 -
34 -
35 a
36 a
37 ab
38 b
39 b
40 a
41 -
42 c
43 a
44 abc
45 -
46 -
47 -
48 b
49 ac
50 b
51 -
52 ab
53 a
54 ab
55 a
56 -
57 -
58 a
59 ab
60 -
61 a
62 a
63 -
64 b
65 -
66 ab

 

[UnseenWombat]

The only options for Natsu are MORE NERFS?

(EDIT: LOL, just noticed how the jenga blocks are all labelled "unbalance." How appropriate.)

What about giving back her caltrops stun, the only thing that I've really seen Natsu players (and not just scrubs whining about how OP she is) complain about.

Tell me, did Hawkeye even participate in the original "poll"?
(EDIT: I see Shogun, someone who should've been on "the list", did participate and suggested giving FC A+B its old stun, and he was ignored.)

Oh, so this doesn't get deleted.
1-39. IDGAS
40. NO
41. NO
42. NO
43-infinity and beyond. IDGAS

 

[Dlent]

Not that it matters for tournaments, but Devil Jin is pretty ridiculous.

 

[Force-Destruct]

Here is my vote:

*Quick Note: If I left some blank, it is because I have no deep knowledge of that said Buff/Nerf and its impact on the character as a whole.

System Changes:
1. A
2. B
3. A (Increase health), C (Depends, some combo starters are from TC, etc)
4. No, No

Character Changes:

5. A
6. A, B, C
7. A, C (if only on the second hit, yes)
8. A, B

9. No
10. A
11. A

12. NO! (Meter gain is average compared to other high tier characters; also, gameplan is dealing high damage)
13. A
14. A (If damage decreased gets added on to CE Lv1; otherwise, increase Clean Hit opportunity if damage decrease)

15. A (Slight decrease in damage)
16. No
17. C (Change to Unblockable attack instead, but is HIGH)

18. A, B, C, D
19. A
20. A, B
21. A

22. B, C
23. No (increase % rate of shifting into stance instead)

24. A (especially on 22A, 11A, etc)
25. A (give better advantage on CH, slight - frames on NH)
26. A (around -8 to -10 should be ok

27. No (Instead, increase the damage scaling on multi-C2 B combos)
28. A

29. B, C (see #17 for more info)
30. A
31. A

32. No
33. A
34. No
35. No

36. A
37. A, B

38. NO (He is fine, due to meter-gain nerfs and guard damage nerfs)
39. C (if it tracks, how about less damage overall on said move)

40. A (if applied to AAB to be more easily punishable to those who can), B
41. A, B
42. B, C

43. A, B (Decrease launch height on GS B to prevent a second GS B to combo, rather than decrease damage; also, decrease meter-gain on certain moves)

44. A, B
45. A (if on Neutral Hit, Counter Hit can stay the same)
46. A

47. A, B, C (change to sideways on Hit if only on Counter Hit)
48. A, B

49. A, B, C
50. A, B
51. No (lower damage on other moves to change her to a CE character, like Hilde)

52. A
53.

54. B
55.

56. A
57. A
58. A

59. A, B (Only IF it is the SAME BE attack, then yes), C
60. A (Launch punishable)
61. A

62. A
63. A

64. A (BB punishable at max), B (make stance unsafe instead, unless BE is used)

65. (Not really sure if it should decrease, it is already unsafe)

66. B, D (A and B sound very similar in wording)


I left suggestions next to some letter choices to justify opinion/other suggestion.

Any questions, PM me or call me out on this Thread.

 

[ArcticKomodo]

Some attacks have auto-correct. Lettuce fix that.

 

[EternalMelody]

TEMPLATE:

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1
2
3 a
4 a

CHARACTER CHANGES

5 a
6 abc
7 ac
8 ab
9 NO
10 NO
11 NO
12 ab
13 b
14 a
15 a
16 a
17 abc
18 abcd
19 ab
20 ab
21 a
22 ab
23 ab
24 NO
25 NO
26 NO
27 a
28 a
29 abc
30 NO
31 NO
32 a
33 NO
34 a
35 a
36 NO
37 ab
38 ab
39 abcd
40 NO
41 NO
42 NO
43 ab
44 abc
45 a
46 a
47 abc
48 ab
49 abc
50 ab
51 a
52 NO
53 NO
54 b
55 a
56 a
57 a
58 a
59 NO
60 NO
61 NO
62 a
63 a
64 ab
65 a
66 NO

 

[KineticClash]

Wait, what does it mean by making Asta and Ivy's CE an AT? Won't this mean they only work if, for some odd reason, your opponent decides not to block it? Won't this kinda defeat the purpose of the move? Not to mention making those supers the worst supers in the entire history of fighting games.

 

[Force-Destruct]

I find it odd that no one wants buffs for Ezio. It makes me sad, he is lacking in a lot of things.

 

[Pat728]

The OP's balance change list is just absurd. You've really only listed nerfs for Hilde? Only nerfs for regular Pat? Pat is a decent medium level character who would be completely useless if all of your suggestions happened. Honestly, I don't want this game balanced patched again at all. SCV's roster is already way more balanced than the average fighter out there. No balance update is perfect, for all the good changes, there are always bad ones (like overnerfing leixia). You need to think realistically. If we do get another balance patch, some character is going to get screwed over. A lot of these suggestions are way too vague to be helpful anyways. I would like "b) Better framedata for many moves." for ZWEI but that's incredibly vague and not helpful at all.

So, pretty much:
no to everything that isn't buffing ZWEI or Raph, fixing whiffing issues, or fixing glitches/infinites.

 

[AKNova7]

Quick question. All of the Leixia players except 1 suggested a voting option of returning immediate evasiveness to WR B BE. Just wondering where it went, not criticizing.

So, pretty much:
no to everything that isn't buffing ZWEI or Raph, fixing whiffing issues, or fixing glitches/infinites.

If you don't add Leixia to this list, after just mentioning she was overnerfed, you probably deserve a lack of oxygen.

 

[hoshinocomet]

Spoiler

1B
3 NO
4B
6AB
7A
8A
14A
24A
25A
26A
27A
38 NO
39A
54B
55A

 

[Frayhua]

The OP's balance change list is just absurd. You've really only listed nerfs for Hilde? Only nerfs for regular Pat? Pat is a decent medium level character who would be completely useless if all of your suggestions happened. Honestly, I don't want this game balanced patched again at all. SCV's roster is already way more balanced than the average fighter out there. No balance update is perfect, for all the good changes, there are always bad ones (like overnerfing leixia). You need to think realistically. If we do get another balance patch, some character is going to get screwed over. A lot of these suggestions are way too vague to be helpful anyways. I would like "b) Better framedata for many moves." for ZWEI but that's incredibly vague and not helpful at all.

So, pretty much:
no to everything that isn't buffing ZWEI or Raph, fixing whiffing issues, or fixing glitches/infinites.

This is really nothing, but a complainers thread.

For those complaining watch this video

 

[Silencer]

3) NO
5) A
9) NO
13) A B
15) A
17) A
18) B D
21) A
24) A
27) A
29) A
32) NO
52) B
54) B
59) A
60) A
62) A
64) A
66) NO

 

[Gatexor]

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1a
2no
3ac
4b

CHARACTER CHANGES

5
6
7c
8
9a
10
11a
12no
13a
14no
15a
16a
17no
18b
19
20a
21a
22
23
24a
25
26
27a
28
29a
30
31
32a
33a
34
35
36no
37
38a
39abd
40no
41b
42no
43b
44no
45
46
47
48a
49c
50a
51no
52a
53
54b
55no
56no
57
58a
59a
60a
61
62a
63no
64a
65no
66no

 

[ShinJin]

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1.AB yes
2.
3.AC. yes B.no
4.A yes

CHARACTER CHANGES

15. no
16. no
17. ABC no
18. B Yes ACD No
19.no
20. no
21. no

 

[ChaosK]

I am a little bit baffled that a lot of people seem to vote on every point. You must all have a great understanding of the game. I for one, left the points where i have no clue/opinion blank with "-"

Spoiler

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1 b​

2 No​

-​

4 No​

CHARACTER CHANGES​

5 a​

6 ab​

7 c​

8 ab​

9 No (where is the option to improve his SW stance though?)​

10 a​

11 a​

-​

13 a​

-​

15 a​

16 a​

-​

18 a (i actually think rather than making it more unsafe, they should increase the freeze for both players to make it more punishable on reaction but since we dont have such an option i am voting for more unsafe)​

19 a​

-​

21 a​

-​

-​

24 a​

25 a​

-​

27 a​

-​

-​

-​

-​

-​

-​

34 No​

35 a​

36 No​

37 a​

38 ab​

39 ab​

-​

-​

42 bc​

-​

44 ac​

-​

-​

-​

-​

49 ab​

50 b​

51 a​

52 ab​

53 a​

54 ab​

55 a​

56 No​

57 No​

58 a​

59 ac​

60 a​

61 a​

62 a​

-​

-​

65 a​

-​

​

 

[ShenOu]

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1 A
2 NO
3 A (More for clean hit moves. Stuff that do too much damage on 1 hit) B (Intensify Damage Scaling)
4 A

CHARACTER CHANGES

7 C
9 A
10 A (Make it not whiff in comboes)
11 A
12 NO
13 AB
14 NO
15 A
16 A
17 NO
18 A
19 A
20 B
21 NO
22 BC
23 AB
24 A
25 NO
26 NO
27 HELL YES HOW IS THIS A QUESTION? NO RSFS IN SCV THANKS.32 HELL NO
33 A
34 NO
38 AB
39 ABCD
40 AB
41 AB
42 AB
43 AB
44 ABC
45 NO46 A
47 C
48 AB
49 A
50 A
51 A
54 B
55 NO (Lol)
56 A
57 A
58 A
59 ABC
60 A
61 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
62 A
63 NO
64 NO
65 NO
66 AD

Note for Viola I just said NERF EVERYTHING and I'm proud of it.
AND SERIOUSLY NERF 44A BE WTF

 

[YoshiKatYoko]

1b
2b
3NO
4NO
7c
10a
12ab
14a
15a
16a
17c
18acd
19a
20a
21a
22b
23b
27a
29bc
32a
33a
34a
35a
38a
39d
43d
54b
57a
59c
61a

 

[Synalon]

Put a dash for things I don't know/care about.

SYSTEM CHANGES:

1NO
2NO
3a
4a

CHARACTER CHANGES

5a
6b
7ac
8-
9a
10-
11-
12a
13a
14NO
15a
16a
17NO
18-
19-
20-
21-
22a
23-
24a
25-
26-
27a
28-
29NO
30a
31a
32a
33-
34-
35-
36NO
37-
38a
39abc
40-
41-
42bc
43b
44NO
45NO
46NO
47NO
48NO
49-
50-
51-
52b
53-
54b
55a
56NO
57-
58-
59NO
60NO
61a
62a
63-
64NO
65NO
66-

 

[Kalas]

32 HELL NO

May I ask why you (and others how think alike) think she doesn't need more damage?
Please tell me what justifies this crap damage output of Leixia, I fail to see a sense in that. I'm being serious, I have no idea why it has to be THAT low. Maybe I'm too biased to see it, that's why I ask. IMO, it's the main reason why she sucks in this game.