Bonus Characters and Hitboxes- Proof?

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Well Hates I think it depends on whether you view them as clone characters or separate characters who should be considered on an individual basis just like the "normal" characters.
 
Dreamkiller said:
Omar, ur a-fucking-nother one. You know damn well the only reason you want HER banned is because you have a harder time versus her and u dont want to deal with it (Wah Wah Elf can punish WS B Wah Wah.) You know damn well, if Kilik was ass you would be behind all this ban bullshit. You think people get you? Notice how everytime you post something up you always get negative feedback. Trust me, its not the community. ITS YOU. Yeah, lets ban them because they're not needed. Awesome reason.
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Thanks for enlightening me! You basically just told me the exact issue with this community. Just stay out of discussions relating to anything important to the community cause well its a waste of time!

Good to know!
 
The shura only combos,
http://www.8wayrun.com/f26/shura-only-combos-t2477/

Idle we already have proof, of these weird hitbox issues. Only a small percent of the community actually plays with bonus chars seriously, partly because there ugly as hell.

I understand that winning at the top means doing whatever it takes Dreamkiller, and that's why people defend Algol and Hilde regardless of how powerful they might be. However, the question is do these character help grow our community or hurt it.

So far it's be proven that they do more harm than good. What you're feeling both Algol and hilde players have felt, but the minority must be step on to make the majority happy. That's what it comes down to in the end. Sorry guys.

And the rest of you...I told you so. This shit will continue until everyone is on the same page...please continue hurting your community.

People don't like me as much now that I play Algol...cheese.
 
KingAce said:
The shura only combos,
http://www.8wayrun.com/f26/shura-only-combos-t2477/

Idle we already have proof, of these weird hitbox issues. Only a small percent of the community actually plays with bonus chars seriously, partly because there ugly as hell.

I understand that winning at the top means doing whatever it takes Dreamkiller, and that's why people defend Algol and Hilde regardless of how powerful they might be. However, the question is do these character help grow our community or hurt it.

So far it's be proven that they do more harm than good. What you're feeling both Algol and hilde players have felt, but the minority must be step on to make the majority happy. That's what it comes down to in the end. Sorry guys.

And the rest of you...I told you so. This shit will continue until everyone is on the same page...please continue hurting your community.

People don't like me as much now that I play Algol...cheese.
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We're talking about Bonus Characters.
Not Hilde and Algol.
Those two are clearly hurting the community cause new players dont like to see bubbles and losing in one hit to overpowered moves.
Bonus Characters dont hurt the community in any way, because they have the same moveset, in a different character. Nothing broken about that.
 
You people on these forums have the dumbest discussions. The bonus characters are just there for casual bullshit play. This isn't sc3 where bonus characters are unique with their own movesets and complete hitboxes. SC4, the bonus characters are better than the regular cast, so for competitive play, it would be smarter to use these bullshit characters instead of using the STAPLE characters that have been in the series for a while. NONE of these characters would ever return to another SC game. Using them in a tourney is just exploiting them, which is lame. But it's whatever, except when it comes to Scherendippity, cause Amy's already too good as it is. Since they have the same moves, the only thing this ONE GUY WHO USES ANY BONUS CHARACTERS is bitching about is not being able to cheat people as bad anymore. Not like Amy is a bad character design.
 
So I guess this comes down to whether or not we should treat bonus chars as separate characters altogther, like Tiamat said.

So what about customized characters, you can just as easily make the same argument to have them in tournaments like bonus characters?

Can I come to a tourney a couple hours early and design my hulk guy?
 
The way I see it KingAce... bonus characters ARE custom characters. If you want to allow bonus characters, you MUST allow custom characters. Why should Amy and Cervantes players get the benefit of custom characters, and not other players? Of course, now you have to allow people time before the tournament to make their custom characters. Its not worth the hassle, nor is it worth the complications.
 
Well the bonus characters are already there, custom characters aren't. Bonus characters being allowed isn't all that much of a change it just means you have to test your combos on them and know what their unique properties are, which isn't different from learning to deal with normal characters. A custom character on the other hand is not a character you can sit down in training mode and analyze ahead of time (cause they are...custom made) so it is NOT the same thing.
 
Shit in that case can I create a Kilik clone change his voice tone and call him Kilikchizitz in one of the future tournaments that allow bonus characters please! This is an excellent idea.

It's only the right thing to do and I will save the numbers ahead of time on paper so I would already know what to do. I'm gonna give the Kilik clone the longest weapon and the thinnest hitbox ever so I can increase my chances of shit going through me. OMG I can't wait!

The suspense is killing me! Such an excellent new movement for SC4!
 
You guys are being ridiculous now. If we allow the Star Wars characters then we should allow the other five, because in the end, all eight are bonus characters with no chance of ever coming back.
 
Impending_Doom66 said:
You guys are being ridiculous now. If we allow the Star Wars characters then we should allow the other five, because in the end, all eight are bonus characters with no chance of ever coming back.
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Star Wars characters are not CLONES... Bonus character are CLONES.
 
Yeah my post wasn't in response to urs! I just keep happening to accidentally post like 2 minutes later than u as u can see in the time difference between our posts lol! So basically while i'm posting u are as well.

In all seriousness I don't give a shit about this thread and don't care either way what happens honestly but i find myself posting every now and again just to test the waters on issues like this to see if there will ever be different results but there never is.

In all honesty though now that I think about it custom characters are logical in tournament play if bonus characters are as well as essentially that is what they are.

For what its worth to this thread my issue in regards to Bonus characters has nothing to do with combos etc. whatsoever but more importantly what the thread is initially about hitboxes. Bonus characters do have them and Maxx the drama queen knows they are their since both me and Ramon have had some issues with Scheherazade in direct comp that does not occur with Amy.
 
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