Can I kill you now...please?? Tira! :D SCV

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Guys! Alex_3D and me have discovered SCV Tira in Madrid´s gamefest! 66B BE and 236K/236K BE ARE GODLIKE, 236K is a fast low with a lot of range, and it has a BE version, it can be performed in gloomy and jolly, and have an incredible range and good damage and wake-up and is faster in the BE version and have a lot of more range.

Combos are incredible, 66B BE catch you from the ground and it changes to gloomy most of times, can be conected with GS new BTB+K and 6x5B BE, is more or less like half life. Also 66B BE can be conected with the CE when she changes to jolly *o*

You´ll see in the vids! Tira is very competitive now! JS 66B is safe and have a lot of moves that prevent the stepiing... she´s very good.
 
Motiosho said:
But her real and official oufit was her 1p oufit in SC3 because it symbolizes more of an assassin coming from underground in a secrect organization known as the bird of passage.

You should really read her SC3 wiki. Tira was never a jester in SC3, she is a full fledge and trained bad ass assassin in SC3.

She became a jester in SC4 because not only was her 1p oufit an official jester oufit but because they made her into a gothic emo jester as well... which I hated very very very very much.

I want her to be an assassin again like how she was in SC3.

But however, I found out some interresting and good news about Tira and her oufit from SC5. She is no longer a gothic jester.

They said that her SC5 oufit has various references to animals commonly associated with witchcraft. Her music theme also seems weirdly witch/magic themed.

This means that Tira will be more of an assassin and a witch in SC5 than a clown or jester.

Before you click on the link below, there is a lot of typing on Tira's wiki. So if you want to find the info that I stated, look for relationships and then the two bullet marks above relation ships.

http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Tira
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I really like the fact that you're pointing me to the edits I made on the wiki - it means I'm doing something worth mentioning since actually, it's me who made a remark about the witch thing, because I'm such a freak. I spent about 2 hours analyzing Tira's outfit when she was announced... I also wrote about it in this thread earlier but I imagine you could miss it. Her SC4 1P has no references to jesters though, at least I don't see anything at all. To me it just looks like another step from sc3 1P without the funky green scheme, which looked weird and misplaced if you compared Tira to other characters. But yeah, I firmly believe they're adding some kind of magic to Tira - she's reeeeeeeeeeeally pale in SC5 and appears to not have aged at all, she actually looks younger than in SC4. And the other character who doesn't age and is super pale is Ivy, and she did it with magic. Also, it would make no sense to add so many new animals to her costume if it didn't mean anything. Usually characters get some animals changed now and then, but they never end up having so many and so significant. And that music seems a little out of place in sc5, as if to even emphasize that witch thing. Also, Tira was the character modeling the dlc halloween witch outfit so maybe they pushed the idea further. But maybe I'm watching too much true blood -_-

Other than that, does anyone have any clue what kind of animal has feet like Tira's new boots? I guess they could be still feline paws but I'm not sure...
 
KiraxSummers said:
^ That is really good to hear! I want to see Tira winning tournaments too!
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You really will see her win tournments, this new moves are incredible, Alex will post a list with all the changes!!

Also in GS now the combo is

3B (old GS 88B) 66A (old GS 22A) 4K (old GS 44K) 6x5B BE and it conects in NH

is also posible to connect GS 3B with CE changes to jolly 66B BE changes to glomy BT B+K 6x5B
 
*screams

time to load video and watch

Edit:
awesome vid :D
but Tira looks worried even though she wins. what's bothering our beloved lady?
 
this is very nice!
Trace_afj, I haven't seen anyone doing 7+B+K or 8+B+K or 9+B+K (the leap which can be followed by A or B GB or K stun) was it removed?
 
You´ll see, Tira is incredible!!!!

66B BE catch grounded oponents, and has a high oportunity to change to gloomy, if changes to gloomy she does a mid that put the enemy behind her for the GS BT B+K, if she stays in jolly she does 66B 236K, it can be the normal or BE version, you can do 66B BE BE if she stays on jolly :D
 
wow these are very cool
but one thing ive gotta say,i want her to be good without her awesome CE and BE's though know what i mean?

i dont want her strengths just to be coming from those because then the only real reason she will be winning could be because of CE/BE
its fine if they add a good boost but i dont want it to feel lke they are been relied on all the time and are the thing that makes her win,mainly CE really

i agree with fuzzieviking ok i realise that they will be bringing things to benefit for things they are taking away,even though theres a chance they might not

but i dont get why they are further nerfing tira after all the things they removed from her SC3 form when we want a good amount of that stuff back,not all of us obviously
theres just no need for the nerfs and taking things out of her

i guess it would be ok if they were getting benefitted by a replacement IF it didnt make the move then useless which they have done with the stuns they have removed

if the move was useless and they were getting rid then that is also fine

in a nutshell i dont really want things just removed and replaced for her its so irritating,we dont want yet more things to go from her

and nerfing things unnecesarily and then rendering the moves useless,if they were been replaced by something else and the move still had a use then it would be ok i guess but they havent done that at all

i hope i dont come under the half miserable gits on the thread lol

im just always concerned and i dont want to think too negatively but thinking too positvly and getting a false sense of security is also bad
because then you will just say,she will be fine and nothing will be done and she could end up terrible
 
kerrod123 said:
wow these are very cool
but one thing ive gotta say,i want her to be good without her awesome CE and BE's though know what i mean?
i dont want her strengths just to be coming from those because then the only real reason she will be winning could be because of CE/BE
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I agree it almost reminds me of when I am playing ssf4 and I am winning by a fair chunk and then I get hit by a wake up special and I lose... I mean the idea of one move making the character.
 
kerrod123 said:
wow these are very cool
but one thing ive gotta say,i want her to be good without her awesome CE and BE's though know what i mean?
i dont want her strengths just to be coming from those because then the only real reason she will be winning could be because of CE/BE
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haha just chill... don't ruin the fun. it'll soon get fixed
it's good that we have good news like this
 
kerrod123 said:
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- why do you think they put in the CE/BE in the first place?
the dev team have cleverly, made 66B BE from both moods more useful then they have ever been.
I mean now both of her moods have been balanced well because of the BE on 66B. jolly combos are more accessible than they were in SC4 as seen in the videos, which is a good thing.
Plus there are only a limited amount of times you can use the BE/CE. Its a matter of doing it at the right time.
All the current characters have great BE/CE, and players have won matches because of their use of them.

i do see your point but the same thing can be said about every other character in the game.

Edit: im just glad my wish was already thought about that is BE moves cause 99% mood change,
 
hi! as said Trace, this weekend Trace and me we can test Soul Calibur V

and here a list of changes and new hits

-the SCIV changed movements found:

JS 88K now is 1K (GS 88K not found)
JS/GS 6K now is 3K
JS/GS 44K now is 4K (SCIV GS 4x5K not found)
JS/GS 4B+K now is 44K
JS/GS A+K now is A+B
GS 88B now is 3B (SCIV GS 3B not found)
GS 22_88A now is 66A
GS 6AA now is 3AA
GS 66A now is... 6A? really I don't remember xD but is change

combo example
CH GS 88B 22_88A 4x5K 4X5K 6X5B
now is
GS 3B 66A 4K 6x5B BE (yes, not necessary CH ^^ )

-the new moves movements found:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/0/_rLCKTt9Phk
JS 22_88A (new version of 22_88A) minute 2:39
JS/GS WS B,K,B_K minute 0:24
JS/GS 236K minute 1:04

http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/2/IYdx3AgyAaU
GS 22_88A minute 2:06
GS 44B minute 2:12 (but is interrupted in the video)
GS BT B+K (is 4K in BT)

-Brave Edge found:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/0/_rLCKTt9Phk
JS 66B BE minute 2:16 very interesting this BE, really not connect with GS 3B, the opponent didn't ukemi in the video, but yes connect with 66B, combo example: GS 66B 66B BE GS BT B+K 6X5B BE, but the change to GS is random in the 66B BE, up an opponent on the ground! and connect with CE in JS! brutal!!! xD with BE, has 2 versions, with change to GS and unchanged to GS

JS/GS 236K BE minute 1:40
GS 66B BE (new 6X5B with GB) minute 0:27

some of the videos recorded, enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/5/DgjcwOh0Hak
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/4/B8L3NOi9YZw
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/3/miKyZILZgwM
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/2/IYdx3AgyAaU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/1/XuIe0IlXYaM
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alex3DSev?feature=mhee#p/u/0/_rLCKTt9Phk

I LOVE TIRA!!!
 
Thanks a lot guys, you two are the awesomest ever! You brought the best info ever for Tira. Like, like, like more follow more!

Edit : BTW I like that low double kick, combos are awesome. Now all I need is spin staces.
 
Jump to 1:38 please and explain what happens then? B+K while jolly side, when tira gets hit he changes side like she did in SC4 but differently she won't do the 66666B when she gets another hit, she just grabs with B+K GI in GS like SC4. Was that the same in SC4? I never be able to do this before so I guess it's new stuff.

Edit : She looks so cute at the end of the video. They made a good job on facial emotions!
 
its amazing how tira looks so much better just with a few things
i dont want to complain,i really dont,but i dont want to get into a false sense of security,these combos and such are really cool and effective but there just cool combos when other characters work out theres i cant see it having such an effect as it is having now,

its probably because people are suprised with the sudden tira changes,but to be honest its just a few new moves and properties tweeked a little for comboing there are still some moves that need the stuns back simply so they still have a use,its great for now but later on i think the others will easily catch up,well thats all for now,this is really good and im happy but theres still more that needs to be done,depending on what they are working on and such

sorry if its been mentioned but i cant recall seeing updraft,is this because its still terrible?
updraft is one of the things she needs for her range so it needs to be made so its not rubbish atleast,i think it ought to be good as one of her signature tools if used correctly,i wish theyd implement her watchers into it or atleast one move,theres a crow on one of her SCV artworks so its not like theyve just dissapeared,they just havent put them in anything again and it seems stupid

oh!and thanks so much for finding things on tira guys! dont wanna seem ungratefull or anything like that because its the exact opposite
 
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