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Pretty much everyone has SC3 speed, so I don't really get why this is important. The speed of the entire cast is sped up.
Just sayin'.
Can I kill you now...please?? Tira! :D SCV
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Just sayin'.
kerrod123
[10] Knight
yeah i noticed this too,
maybe SC3 tira wasnt really quicker after all,she just seemed it due to the game been faster
she probably really was a bit faster but not as much as it made it seem
Violent Vodka
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She seems fun to play and she's got a better chance at winning. I'm happy.
Just give us a few more stuns, Namco. :D
kerrod123
[10] Knight
yeah i think she needs more stuns,im still annoyed about them removing two from while rising K and 6K theres not much point to these now,well atleast 6K
but she needs a good jolly stun that is comboable hopefully something with various option available not just one combo
they should just make 3K stun again theres quite a few things you could do with that
especially bring back since thats another move that will be rendered useless,i dont understand namcos thoughts on some of this nerfing its pointless and irritating.
taking some things and giving back with other things i can understand but its not ok if there just making the moves then useless,i want more options available with tira,shes a bit too linear in 4
however to be honest i dont think they should be nerfing anything for tira anyway,its not like any of her things are spectactular,the only reason for it would be if they didnt she would be OP in 5 because of other things...hmm i really doubt it but...that could be a possibility,dont ya think?
but she needs a good jolly stun that is comboable hopefully something with various option available not just one combo
they should just make 3K stun again theres quite a few things you could do with that
especially bring back since thats another move that will be rendered useless,i dont understand namcos thoughts on some of this nerfing its pointless and irritating.
taking some things and giving back with other things i can understand but its not ok if there just making the moves then useless,i want more options available with tira,shes a bit too linear in 4
however to be honest i dont think they should be nerfing anything for tira anyway,its not like any of her things are spectactular,the only reason for it would be if they didnt she would be OP in 5 because of other things...hmm i really doubt it but...that could be a possibility,dont ya think?
Violent Vodka
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I used WR K way more than I used 6K. That stun was good, but when you could only connect 1B half of the time, it seemed fairly useless in my opinion. But, yeah.. I hope the 4A+B (formerly GL 44B) stuns with good enough timing that you could get a 22/88B combo going.. I loved her JO (stun) 22B~11K~B+K-delay-B.
Ninjaguy446
[14] Master
Hellz Yeah! lol I don't care if she's BE based. It's apart of the game so, I'll utilize it.
Motiosho
[10] Knight
You are absolutely right bro, every one in SC5 has their SC3 speed... however Tira is a fast and acrobatic character reguardless. With SC5 Tira having her SC3 speed now, she can do things in SC5 that she could never do or take an advantage of in SC4.
With SC5 Tira having her SC3 speed she can now easily evade attacks after attacking, take an advantage of whiffs now, she can even attack consecutively against an enemy on guard, which
will help her to be even more unpredictable and pressure the enemy. With her SC3 speed in SC5 she will also be able to wear down the enemies guard quick with those quick consecutive attacks that she can now do like in SC3. With Tira now having her SC3 speed in SC5 she will also be more safer.
It does not matter if the other characters have their SC3 speed in SC5 because Tira will only be faster. Because Tira has her SC3 speed now, she will also have better frame advantage and with her fast attacks it will be hard for the opponent to read her next move.
Now do you understand why it's important?? There is a big difference between SC3 Tira speed and the other characters SC3 speed. Tira never had this type of speed in SC4 or SC4BD instead she was slow.
In SC3 Tira was really fast, acrobatic, flexible, had better frames, had a lot of unblockable attacks, had really useful guard break attacks and stances. Soul Calibur 4 Tira was very slow, had terribad frames,
no good guard break attacks, 1 unblockable attack and could not take an advantage of whiffs. So yeah a big difference. For those who have not played as SC3 Tira will know what it is like when SC5 is officially released.
If you master Tira with her SC3 speed in SC5, you will understand everything I have typed in this post about SC5 Tira.
Motiosho
[10] Knight
LOL..... people in the demo made it seem like she can only combo using BE, but Tira will not need brave edge in order to do a combo. She will have more than just one way to do a combo. She will also have combos that wont require BE.
BTW I hope to see more SC5 demo Tira gameplay.
wataru
[10] Knight
Yay, daishi showed the va's on gamespot japan and Masumi Asano is reprising Tira. I love her gloomy so much, can't wait to see what she does to age her a bit.
http://japan.gamespot.com/ps/news/35008658/
http://japan.gamespot.com/ps/news/35008658/
Motiosho
[10] Knight
It's written in Japanese or Chinese. Where does it say that in english and Thank you BTW for this post.
Can't wait to see more news on Tira.
wataru
[10] Knight
Yea sorry I should explain more clearly, I found out in a round about way.
The gamespot page wont translate in chrome directly for some reason so I pasted the blurb under tiras va picture into google and hit search. Then google asks to translate and it comes up with:
"Masumi Asano masterpiece : " Ikki "( Sonsaku Hakufu ), " A & G RADIO SHOW super ~ Anisupa ! - "Otomo Ryuzaburo Asutarosu 017] [018representative works : "ONE PIECE" (Sir ...W"
When you cross reference the roles like ikki and such they all match Asano aswell.
Violent Vodka
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If the ENTIRE game is sped up, why would Tira be able to do things she couldn't do before? It makes no sense.. All frames will be safer, in a sense, because they start and end faster than they would in SC4. It's not like everyone got sped up, but Tira was even more so, so saying that she can outmatch other characters strictly because the speed increase is messed up. >.<
Tira's age in SC5 is "Unknown", so she probably didn't even age much, if she even aged at all. They'd just give her different, hopefully more grotesque, phrases.
Ninjaguy446
[14] Master
Sad thing is I have SC3 and 4 at my hands. I chose to master SC4 Tira. What's wrong with me? Well I guess its better that way since she has GS and JS.
She's not a day after 17.
Yeah I think she'll know her way around BE and normal combos. She's bound to have SOME good combo starters and follow ups.
Motiosho
[10] Knight
Thank you for seeing my point of view. If you like fast characters than Tira will deffinately suite you since she will have her SC3 speed after all. Im so exited to see her with her SC3 speed because I've always like being all over the place with SC3 Tira.
I sent a personal message to Daishi a long time ago asking him to return Tira's speed to her SC3 speed and he did it!! He said that Tira may actaully be just tiny more quicker than her SC3 speed which will only make her even faster than normal.... = )
I never enjoyed SC4 Tira that much because she was slow. In SC3 one of Tira's main advantages was her fast speed.
Again Thank you for this post....
Motiosho
[10] Knight
I said now that SC5 Tira has her SC3 speed, she will be able to do things that she could never do in SC4. Example:
In SC5
or can be followed up with while the enemy is guarding. If the enemy tries to intterupt Tira after she uses while he is guarding he will get hit by the attack before he can interrupt her next move.In SC4 if Tira uses
or she can easily be interrupted if she tries to follow up with .This is part of what I meant by, because she has her SC3 speed in SC5, she will be able to do things in SC5 that she could never do in SC4.
Now just imagine what other attacks that SC5 Tira can do to use consecutively against a gaurding opponent besides
or and with her SC3 speed.The game being sped up has nothing to do with Tira's SC3 speed in SC5. When Daishi said that the game was sped up, he was taliking about 8wayrun, whiffs, stability, the speed of the fight not the characters speed in general and dashes.
It may not make sense to you but I can assure you that it make sense to other people. I never said anything about Tira out matching anyone.... LOL
I was only stating some of her advantages..... come on now. Why in the heck would I even type anything about outmatching anyone anyway after stating that everyone in the game will be balanced.....LMAO
In any case Im not here to debate but only state facts. In SC3 Tira is a fast, acrobatic and flexible fighter with more dependable moves, stances ext.
Allow me to explain to you what Tira is like without her SC3 speed. SC4 Tira and SC4BD Tira is an example of this. Again every experienced SC4 Tira player know that she:
A. Is very slow and because of this:
1. Has terribad frames
2. Can easily be interrupted
3. Has no good combos
4. Cannot attack consecutively like she could in Sc3
5. Is very slow, on whiffs
6. Has no good stances
7. Her best moves damages her
8. She is not really unpredictable
9. Has trouble staying close to the opponent so when ever the opponent spaces from her she is at a disadvantage
Now lets look at SC3 Tira. Allow me to explain to you what Tira is like with her SC3 speed. Every experienced SC3 Tira player know that:
1. She is fast
2. She can take advantage of whiffs
3. She is safe
4. She has good frames may not be the best in the world but still good frames
5. She has a lot of dependable moves
6. She cannot be easily interrupted while attacking
7. She can chain a lot of attacks on air born enemies, even if they are aerial controlling
8. She had some really good stances that were dependable
9. She could attack consecutively even on a guarding opponent.
10. She had some good gurantee hits after guarding against an attack
11. She was a lot more unpredictable and had some good tech traps
You see there is no comparison to SC3 Tira and SC4 Tira.
Now that SC5 Tira has her SC3 speed plus with new moves and moves we have not seen yet, Tira will again, have great frames,
be able to take advantage of whiffs, attack consecutively like she could in SC3, she will once again be a fast character like she was meant to be and she will be safe.
Keep in mind that I am stating some of SC5 Tira's advantages and not how she will outmatch anyone. I never Typed anything like that and I never said that no other character will have SC3 speed. In SC3 Tira was the 3rd
fastest character. In SC4 Tira was the 10th fastest character........ -_- So What I was trying to say is that since everyone in SC5 will have their SC3 speed, Tira would still be the 3rd fastest character in the game accept with new moves.
Ninjaguy446
[14] Master
I remember I used to be an A$$ to my friends and keep jumping around in 3. LOL! We would die of laughter cause she sounded so retarded when she jumped! So we both picked Tira and kept jumping. You know, untill I ambushed him and ruthlessly murdered him since he had no clue how to use Tira. Seriously though, I see both of your POV's. Both of them are true. Yes, the game is sped up and so are the characters, but Tira was always an agile character. She probably will be faster than most people except speedy people i.e Talim. She'll probaly be as fast as Talim was(I'm pretty sure she was fast)
Motiosho
[10] Knight
LOL I Totally agree. My friends hated it when I use to pick SC3 Tira because I would always use the unblockable version of updfrat after soul charging. They never knew what to do lol.
Violent Vodka
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I liked how in SC3, there was a jump attack and a jump delay attack.. I'd like that better for her 7/8/9B, but I guess since WS B doesn't work, that input is fine.
ShadowZone
[11] Champion
Jump delay ftw! I loved JD 9B...let's hope jump delay returns.
Violent Vodka
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Here's a question to you all I'd really like an answer to..
What ONE word would you use to best describe Tira, mainly her personality?
What ONE word would you use to best describe Tira, mainly her personality?
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