iCS/CS and SS information

5 frame is a limit for one input/direction (press and release), so it's like this 6(5f)~6(5f)~6(5f)
 
iCS is easiest using the 2 hand method. So much easier in fact that I see no need for the arcade stick. Only question I have for those who do this method is what tips do you have for buffering say 4B while doing it 2-handed?
 
4B? You'd have to be super quick to do that.

I sometimes mix it up with A+B ~ FC 3B ~ G ~ 6B8 and A+B ~ iCS against my less... um... instinctive opponents... :P

I wouldn't say to do it after 4B though. BB/AA into iCS isn't always that bad either.
 
d3troitr3d2k said:
iCS is easiest using the 2 hand method. So much easier in fact that I see no need for the arcade stick. Only question I have for those who do this method is what tips do you have for buffering say 4B while doing it 2-handed?
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ICS is so easy now! I'm actually making a video of myself getting ICS like up to 3 times in a row. I usually can do ICS on the right side. My fingers hurt after awhile after inputing it over and over though. And about having to do ICS in like not even a second? I do ICS in about 1 1/2 seconds. I heard somewhere you have to do it in less than a second.
 
Loseordie987 said:
ICS is so easy now! I'm actually making a video of myself getting ICS like up to 3 times in a row. I usually can do ICS on the right side. My fingers hurt after awhile after inputing it over and over though. And about having to do ICS in like not even a second? I do ICS in about 1 1/2 seconds. I heard somewhere you have to do it in less than a second.
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How do you do it??? ;D
 
but you do have to do it in less than a second, 60f in a sec 40f to do the move...

Its pretty slow but not 1 1/2 sec it can feel slow if your tapping the inputs in
 
man i love how i can do it most of the time it just kinda annoys me how i cant do the full direction or it wont be 5f :(
oh well at least i can do it
 
Has anyone noticed that it's possible to do CS twice in a row without buffering the second one? It happened to me a few times, it's quite interesting.

It's just 28284666B+G, B+G <mash>. Let the first one whiff, and sometimes the second one will come out of nowhere.
 
This game runs at 60 frames per second right? So if iCS has to be done in 40 frames another way to look at it for anyone who is still confused is that you have to finish the input in 2/3 of a second.
 
The iCS became easy to pepole to break it because its glow and they mashing B ivy should have another special throw break with A (SS / iCS) like SC4 . and the damage of her iCS 85 not good but with clean its good 106 in SC4 u can slide the diraction but with the new input u cant slide them that is the problem but with both method pad and analog there is no problem . what did u think if there is no method like used pad and analog i think most off people used ivy will dislike the game .
 
One note if people did not know, if you get hit by a small poke or a know down it does not affect the the buffer for CS. I can buffer 28284 get hit by a 2A or 3B and still just buffer the 666 B+G for CS. In pass versions of CS if you got hit anytime during the buffer you had to start all over. This makes CS that much stronger.

Edit: I don't think iCS or CS being is somthing that going to be something easy to notice or break. While CS does have a bigger break window(I really want that shorthen a bit more, it should not be the same as asta) than previous, CS is only going to be broken if the opponent is already looking for it.

It just like a BE grab. If you are looking very closely you can break BE grab on reactions in training mode, but its not something you can do in a actual match because there more thing to worry about. If you focus your attention on breaking he grabs you'll probably eat a lot of low, Ivy CE will be that more effective and you'll get guard crush really quick
 
Ring said:
Has anyone noticed that it's possible to do CS twice in a row without buffering the second one? It happened to me a few times, it's quite interesting.

It's just 28284666B+G, B+G <mash>. Let the first one whiff, and sometimes the second one will come out of nowhere.
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Ur right its work perfect with me u dont have to mash B+G just dealy it great find Ring .
What do u think about ivy tier high ,mid ,low .?
 
Sorry to be the one to burst the bubble, but CS whiff into B+G for 2 CS's in a row has been possible since SC1(of course in SC1 it was Summon Suffering)... its good for show and that's it really...any time CS whiffs and your opponent isn't stupid slow your looking at a meaty damage combo for punishment... but if you don't believe me about it being in since SC1 and you have a Dreamcast handy, try it out for yourselves :)

Also, about !CS, i cannot hit that shit at all consistently, well... I've gotten it a few times online for whatever reason, but not offline...ok, maybe i hit it only once offline due to extreme crazy luck...i have given up trying to connect with !CS. I am to believe at this point it is pretty worthless due to the fact its the only move she has with an !JF flash effect making it much easier to detect.
 
JustKill said:
Sorry to be the one to burst the bubble, but CS whiff into B+G for 2 CS's in a row has been possible since SC1(of course in SC1 it was Summon Suffering)... its good for show and that's it really...any time CS whiffs and your opponent isn't stupid slow your looking at a meaty damage combo for punishment... but if you don't believe me about it being in since SC1 and you have a Dreamcast handy, try it out for yourselves :)
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Really? Well, I have never really tried that in older games but I don't think it was possible in SC4, with CS anyway.
 
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