Davo87
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Yah, even my whine paragraph got posted... oh dear....XD
Yah, even my whine paragraph got posted... oh dear....XD
Ivy BD Changes
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IvyFanboy
[11] Champion
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Crap, you should leave and make a new account. Whining is just unacceptable here. I mean there will be posts...and...and opinions...and oh god the anger condensed into mom jokes...it's horrible. I'm still trying to find a way to digitally hang myself.
Friendly sarcasm aside...any is ANYthing a buff for Ivy? or is she just all nerf and no love?
Crap, you should leave and make a new account. Whining is just unacceptable here. I mean there will be posts...and...and opinions...and oh god the anger condensed into mom jokes...it's horrible. I'm still trying to find a way to digitally hang myself.
Friendly sarcasm aside...any is ANYthing a buff for Ivy? or is she just all nerf and no love?
Ring
Lay still now
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Who's getting the game anyway?
Looking at other characters changes, we will have to test everything again, frames will most probably be different too. Sophitia's AA is now i11 for example. I wish CL AA was + on hit and i13. I think we can expect some damage buffs (hopefully 5hit JF now does more damage in combos. I haven't played the game yet, but for some reason, I'm sure of it)
Ha, you probably weren't at CF forums when 1.03 was released... but that was some serious whining back then.
Who's getting the game anyway?
Looking at other characters changes, we will have to test everything again, frames will most probably be different too. Sophitia's AA is now i11 for example. I wish CL AA was + on hit and i13. I think we can expect some damage buffs (hopefully 5hit JF now does more damage in combos. I haven't played the game yet, but for some reason, I'm sure of it)
Davo87
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
So far from other char BD vids, it seems damage modifiers only change per a different move not on the number of hits. E.g: Hildes C2AA, the second hit's percentage remains the same as the first hit.
So high chance, SE B JF is gonna be a lot more damaging after WP 3B on NH and CH.
Even more so for wallcombos where NM can do 3 consecutive moves without down scaling:
So far from other char BD vids, it seems damage modifiers only change per a different move not on the number of hits. E.g: Hildes C2AA, the second hit's percentage remains the same as the first hit.
So high chance, SE B JF is gonna be a lot more damaging after WP 3B on NH and CH.
Even more so for wallcombos where NM can do 3 consecutive moves without down scaling:
Eyce_Theon
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Well, it was 3 AM when I went around stealing people's info...I saw alot of move notations in a largeish post, so I used it. If anyone posts a more complete/organized list I'd be happy to replace it if you want
Well, it was 3 AM when I went around stealing people's info...I saw alot of move notations in a largeish post, so I used it. If anyone posts a more complete/organized list I'd be happy to replace it if you want
Something-Unique
[10] Knight
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
This is what I can provide so far! Ivy has definitely been nerfed most notably in the damage department.
General: iCS and SS = Same Damage
SW:
3B [CH], A+K, 4B+K, B+K, 214K = 67-Damage (-13-Damage)
22K, 214K = 38-Damage (-9-Damage)
9B [CH], 214K = 49-Damage (-10-Damage)
33A [CH] = Nothing Guaranteed
9gB so far (need more testing) does not seem to exist anymore from CL not sure if WP had it but if it did it doesn't exist there either.
Ring-Linkrkc-Woahhzz etc. if u would like me to test things for u just pm me or post in this thread what u would like checked.
Edit:
Never realized how long that list of combos are. I take back the 10 minutes claim and will now be simply testing the most important ones that people will like tested lol.
This is what I can provide so far! Ivy has definitely been nerfed most notably in the damage department.
General: iCS and SS = Same Damage
SW:
3B [CH], A+K, 4B+K, B+K, 214K = 67-Damage (-13-Damage)
22K, 214K = 38-Damage (-9-Damage)
9B [CH], 214K = 49-Damage (-10-Damage)
33A [CH] = Nothing Guaranteed
9gB so far (need more testing) does not seem to exist anymore from CL not sure if WP had it but if it did it doesn't exist there either.
Ring-Linkrkc-Woahhzz etc. if u would like me to test things for u just pm me or post in this thread what u would like checked.
Edit:
Never realized how long that list of combos are. I take back the 10 minutes claim and will now be simply testing the most important ones that people will like tested lol.
teflon2105
[09] Warrior
IvyFanboy
[11] Champion
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
This is looking worse and worse. It's still wait and see how it plays out but, I'm dieing on the inside with every new find. NAMCO why?!?
This is looking worse and worse. It's still wait and see how it plays out but, I'm dieing on the inside with every new find. NAMCO why?!?
Ring
Lay still now
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to "[BD] Ivy's funeral" ?
Stomp got nerfed? .... Ok, S-U if you can, please check the same combos with CL236BB at the end instead of 214K. If they nerfed stomp's damage (I wonder how much it now does on NH against standing opponent? 5dmg? I wish it was at lest 0 on hit or positive) maybe they did it to make CL 236BB more useful.
So far, this is looking really bad.
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to "[BD] Ivy's funeral" ?
Stomp got nerfed? .... Ok, S-U if you can, please check the same combos with CL236BB at the end instead of 214K. If they nerfed stomp's damage (I wonder how much it now does on NH against standing opponent? 5dmg? I wish it was at lest 0 on hit or positive) maybe they did it to make CL 236BB more useful.
So far, this is looking really bad.
Something-Unique
[10] Knight
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
3B [CH], A+K, 4B+K, 236BB = 72-Damage
22_88K, A+K, 236BB = Does not work.
9B [CH], A+K, 236BB = 56-Damage
3B [CH], A+K, 4B+K, 236BB = 72-Damage
22_88K, A+K, 236BB = Does not work.
9B [CH], A+K, 236BB = 56-Damage
IvyFanboy
[11] Champion
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Lol, my "fun time" Rock is starting to look more appealing than my refined Ivy...
Lol, my "fun time" Rock is starting to look more appealing than my refined Ivy...
Ring
Lay still now
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
It's confirmed, SW A+B~[A+B] UB glitch doesn't exist in BD and the UB itself does less damage (non-UB version too), and naturally, it's slower....
It's confirmed, SW A+B~[A+B] UB glitch doesn't exist in BD and the UB itself does less damage (non-UB version too), and naturally, it's slower....
Davo87
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
I expected the UB to be nerfed at some point.
Just updated the first post with SU's input. Thanks
SU, some things if you could test:
-CL 214> SE A 236[A] still shakeable on NH?
-CL [CH] 1A a guranteed hit? (Try different distances)
-SW WS B> BT A+B possible to launch? (Try latest timing)
-SW 2A+K> CL 236BB (This move is a techtrap. Pls turn on ukemi.)
-WP [CH] 3A, can she combo into 2K or CL 2A?
-Are the frames with WP 2A, 2B still -1~0?
-Is stance shift possible after a move exiting from SE?
Thanks!
I expected the UB to be nerfed at some point.
Just updated the first post with SU's input. Thanks
SU, some things if you could test:
-CL 214> SE A 236[A] still shakeable on NH?
-CL [CH] 1A a guranteed hit? (Try different distances)
-SW WS B> BT A+B possible to launch? (Try latest timing)
-SW 2A+K> CL 236BB (This move is a techtrap. Pls turn on ukemi.)
-WP [CH] 3A, can she combo into 2K or CL 2A?
-Are the frames with WP 2A, 2B still -1~0?
-Is stance shift possible after a move exiting from SE?
Thanks!
Ring
Lay still now
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Hmm I just noticed something.
SCIV: CH9B/9gB, CL 236BB is 51dmg
SCBD: CH 9B, CL236BB is 56dmg
Does that mean 9B is more damaging now? At first I thought that CL236BB does more damage now, but the combo after CH SW 3B does exacly the same damage in SCIV, so it must be 9B.
Davo, why CH WP 3A into CL 2A/2K? ;] Both those moves have less range than CL A,A+K.
Hmm I just noticed something.
SCIV: CH9B/9gB, CL 236BB is 51dmg
SCBD: CH 9B, CL236BB is 56dmg
Does that mean 9B is more damaging now? At first I thought that CL236BB does more damage now, but the combo after CH SW 3B does exacly the same damage in SCIV, so it must be 9B.
Davo, why CH WP 3A into CL 2A/2K? ;] Both those moves have less range than CL A,A+K.
Davo87
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Actually, I was originally thinking 2A into setting up for SS and wanted to find out if its +14 or still +15 doable, but I just remembered this new stun leaves them standing so never mind. :P
Actually, I was originally thinking 2A into setting up for SS and wanted to find out if its +14 or still +15 doable, but I just remembered this new stun leaves them standing so never mind. :P
Ring
Lay still now
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Well, with SS/CS setup, even if WP 3A->CL 2A works, by the time you can go back to WP for SS or SW CS, the advantage from CL 2A will be long gone, because of the stance cooldown.
Hopefully CH WP 3A advantage is bigger on tip range/Ivy recovers quicker (I'm imagining CH WP 3A, 6AA combo etc =P)
Well, with SS/CS setup, even if WP 3A->CL 2A works, by the time you can go back to WP for SS or SW CS, the advantage from CL 2A will be long gone, because of the stance cooldown.
Hopefully CH WP 3A advantage is bigger on tip range/Ivy recovers quicker (I'm imagining CH WP 3A, 6AA combo etc =P)
AssassinX21
[08] Mercenary
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
Did anyone test the buffering on CS and SS?
And if you can still buffer CS from SW FC 3B?
Did anyone test the buffering on CS and SS?
And if you can still buffer CS from SW FC 3B?
Davo87
[09] Warrior
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
A got a FD online to test some basic stuff.
Changes:
CL 214 B_ no longer forces crouch.
No changes:
CL CH WS AA 236BB still does like 90
Double confirmed 9gB really is gone for WP and CL.
SW WS B> BT A+B
CH 6AK.
A got a FD online to test some basic stuff.
Changes:
CL 214 B_ no longer forces crouch.
No changes:
CL CH WS AA 236BB still does like 90
Double confirmed 9gB really is gone for WP and CL.
SW WS B> BT A+B
CH 6AK.
Nofacekill3r
[11] Champion
[BD] Ivy BD Changes
A got a FD online to test some basic stuff.
Changes:
CL 214 B_ no longer forces crouch. Oh boy.
No changes:
CL CH WS AA 236BB still does like 90
Double confirmed 9gB really is gone for WP and CL. LOL.
SW WS B> BT A+B
CH 6AK.
And the l33t UB is gone?
WP's best/2nd best poke nerfed?
Stomp does less damage?
Please please at least tell me that SE A236A is no longer shakeable.
Uggh. I would main another character but nobody is quite as fun as Ivy. :(
A got a FD online to test some basic stuff.
Changes:
CL 214 B_ no longer forces crouch. Oh boy.
No changes:
CL CH WS AA 236BB still does like 90
Double confirmed 9gB really is gone for WP and CL. LOL.
SW WS B> BT A+B
CH 6AK.
And the l33t UB is gone?
WP's best/2nd best poke nerfed?
Stomp does less damage?
Please please at least tell me that SE A236A is no longer shakeable.
Uggh. I would main another character but nobody is quite as fun as Ivy. :(
teflon2105
[09] Warrior
Dam they nerf the hell out ivy i hope SE A236A isn't shakeable that's SE best attack it's sad enough SW A+B does less damage.