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[Ghengis_John]

I'm in a ranting mood... and i feel like this is keeping me from my sleep so i'm going to say this here..

Well this guy has been at the helm since Soul Calibur II. To judge whether he's fucked up or he knows what he's doing yet is something you can do already. But he came into things as a fan. (He said in an interview his favorite characters were X and Sophi. X was his main in fact.) If he's actually interested in what we as other fans have to say, then I commend the man. Even if most people and ergo of the fans are idiots. If he's just leading us on I can't say. At some point though he's going to have to tell some of the people they can't have what they want. That's just reality. If someone says "make the game more like streetfighter everyone gets fireballs" he's going to have to shake his head and say "No, you're a retard." So I think his vision does come into play somewhere. It's in the editorial that goes on in his mind, about what suggestions he's willing to take and what suggestions he's going to ignore. There's some level of appeal and repulsion any suggestion will give him. For all we know he'll only actually listen to people who tell him what he wants to hear and in that way "take" plenty of "suggestions". Who knows? If some guy says "Give the girls tits as big as volvos" he may just do that because he's always wanted to anyways.

As for people telling you "Shut up and take what I give you or get out". It happens more often than not doesn't it? How many times have I sat down to somebody's vision and thought "gee man. I wish they didn't think I was lower than a bacteria and took a suggestion here. If they just fixed this thing the game would be that much better." Then how many times have you heard the same thing in 20 reviews? Sometimes vision clouds us in our perspective. A little outside input is a good thing.

 

[Madnis]

gj, you know you my boy and all.. but you might want to edit that post of yours a bit.. he's not been at the helm since soul calibur 2.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368980/fullcredits#directors
do you see Daishi Odashima anywhere in those credits?

take special note of the producers... and director seats..

shhh... i know.. i know. i give you a sympathetic pat on the shoulder. these japanese people's names.. they all sound the same.

 

[Sxton_Hrdcastle]

Whoever thought that Ivy should be the sex symbol of the Soul Series should be shot. Everyone knows that was always Taki's spot since Soul Blade.

 

[Ghengis_John]

gj, you know you my boy and all.. but you might want to edit that post of yours a bit.. he's not been at the helm since soul calibur 2.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368980/fullcredits#directors
do you see Daishi Odashima anywhere in those credits?

take special note of the producers... and director seats..

shhh... i know.. i know. i give you a sympathetic pat on the shoulder. these japanese people's names.. they all sound the same.

Blah. That's twice now. I gotta get a fact checker. But that's what you're here for, to troll me a little when I make mistakes. Otherwise flawless post. Beautiful post. Worthy of a press release and you zero right in on my racism. All right, I know what you want. Put another point on the board man. Though that was the result of me not remembering the interview right. As if it makes it any better to make a different mistake. Yeah I feel dumb. I feel real dumb. Looking back over the same interview, he joined the team since III and directed IV. So I guess you can still gauge him by IV. Wasn't really the point of my post though. Main point was outside input is usually a good thing. Like how oh wait. I meant to do that. Yeah. Clearly it was a dramatic illustration intended to showcase how outside input can help us all out. Yeah.... sure. Sure....

But seriously, unintentional case in point. If I'd had bounced this post off somebody who caught that it would have been a better post. I got so caught up in what I wanted to say, I missed something important. Now it's in the bargain bin. It's getting a 65 on meta critic. People are only reading it for the gamer score. It's done like Kane and Lynch. Done.

 

[Madnis]

HA! John you sir.. are awesome. know that you have a place to crash if you're ever in Atlanta (when i'm there) or in Korea (when i'm here). besides, since you're following me now, i got to take care of my minions. so since we're a duo.. i'll be megamind... and you be minion. :)

that'll work.

having said that. You missed the point of my post entirely. I didn't want to say nothing because what you wrote was gorgeous. i mean brilliant literature.. up there with Hank moody... "fuckin and punchin". what you know about it?

my post wasn't all about what you said.. in fact.. reread my post you'll notice:

"you know.. it's great that things like twitter can give you direct access to these developers but it brings up an interesting thought... is there ever a line drawn in which they say "fuck it, you'll have to either follow my vision of this game or fuck off", or do they acquiesce to the basic demands of the fans. and by basic I mean the overall consensus of what the fans want in the game. which then brings up a question on my mind.. does this make us fans of the franchise? or fans of the developer?"

in other words, where is the line drawn if any? how far does someone go with taking other people's advice versus coming up with your own? which then follows up with the question for us as the fans.. are we fans of the developer who care about his design choices or are we fans of the franchise who care nothing about how the game is made so long as there is another game in said franchise?

it's almost like we're doing the work for him. perfect for the advertising because the overall consensus of what we want in the game, will be in the game. ergo, instant revenue.

if i was to use an analogy, we'll use my field of work.

if a client of mine hires me for an animation. and he basically tells me everything he wants.. then i know what he wants, I give it to him exactly the way he wants it. then he's happy. I get paid. que no? but say that same client gives me a very general idea of what he wants. In other words, he has an idea of what he wants but lacks clear vision, so he hires me to bring his idea to life through my vision. But instead of coming up with my own vision, i continually come up to meet his approval. bring everything to him to see if this is what he wants. if he hired me for me to bring his idea to life through my ideas, why is he constantly being bothered by me to see what he thinks? It gives off the feel that I don't know what I'm doing, so therefore, direct me on what to do next. there's nothing wrong with either way.. it's just in the latter, he didn't hire me for his vision. he hired me for mine.

same with this little fucker. by asking other people what they want in a game... it's sort of like creating a check list. is this in the game? is that in the game? well we'll definitely see a return now. can't lose! but at the same time, it gives off the impression at least to me, that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing or what he even wants in the game. so he comes to us, to tell him what should make up the next soul calibur. so my question is this..

if there's any line drawn at all where is it drawn between someone's own idea vs the masses?

which brings me to why i can respect someone's own vision far more then someone who listens to other people to find what they want.

make sense?

the other question is a whole other issue entirely.. best to take care of one before the other.

work smart. not hard.

madnis. one of the realest muh fuckers you'll meet on these here boards.

 

[Jrasta111]

random... Anyone can see the guys over at Namco have a team full of people, each one with vision...

They came to us, as they felt like it had been too long and the game needed the added marketing if they really were going to release it eventually... Giving the fans a so-called voice just helps spread the excitement, hype and market the game...

Now if what you're asking is whether or not they're actually relying on the small fraction of the market they're hoping to sell to to tell them how to make their game... Don't be silly

 

[TsunamiBye]

Pi-Pikachu!!!

 

[AnitaLife]

Just found out that my gayass tennis coach quit coaching varsity tennis to become a minister, meaning there will be no girls varsity tennis team. Which is gay and absurd.

So now I'm presenting a petition to my school's athletic department to convince them to hire a new coach before tryouts in a week.

 

[Madnis]

random... Anyone can see the guys over at Namco have a team full of people, each one with vision...

They came to us, as they felt like it had been too long and the game needed the added marketing if they really were going to release it eventually... Giving the fans a so-called voice just helps spread the excitement, hype and market the game...

Now if what you're asking is whether or not they're actually relying on the small fraction of the market they're hoping to sell to to tell them how to make their game... Don't be silly

this is cute.

 

[Sxton_Hrdcastle]

Just got owned by this absolutely adorable asian chick in King of Fighters, quite frankly I don't even care that I lost (badly I might add) she is so freaking cute.

 

[Madnis]

speaking of.. ever meet someone so damn cute you just wanted to throw them? I felt that way about midgets.
like i was hangin out on my way to work about to cross the street.. and up came this adorable 3 foot 9 little lady. she was talkin on her phone and she looked too adorable! i just wanted to throw her.

 

[coroso4]

2ebbrata
June 3rd, 2008



okay last like thursday so its been like 7 days now and my head still hurts not a sharp pain like a regular headach and its not always pounding.like you no when u got a sinus and u move or shake you head it hurts well my head only hurts when i shak it foward no side to side and when i bend down it dosnt hurt liek a sinus or bend back up... there also a smalll bump on my head i havnt noticed befor maby casue i didnt take the time to recoganize it but my mom has a simaler one im 15 and scared ive a soft life and i have a phobie of death and parliztion stufff i lov biking and id cry if i was d mobilized in the futer of this

Read more: Headache and Migraines Forum - head hurts when shaken http://ehealthforum.com/health/head-hurts-when-shaken-t142888.html#ixzz1Dca68uvG

 

[Ghengis_John]

if there's any line drawn at all where is it drawn between someone's own idea vs the masses?

which brings me to why i can respect someone's own vision far more then someone who listens to other people to find what they want.

make sense?

Got ya. Frankly though I'm an ends means guy. Only problem with that is an over-worked committee design is universally devoid of soul. Just out of curiosity how do you feel about the guys who pay you for your vision then call it their own? Money asides. I know in the world of comics at least there's sometimes some bad blood there.

Just got owned by this absolutely adorable asian chick in King of Fighters, quite frankly I don't even care that I lost (badly I might add) she is so freaking cute.

Pics or it didn't happen. (Just wants to see how cute this chick was)

speaking of.. ever meet someone so damn cute you just wanted to throw them? I felt that way about midgets.

Throw? We talking about a distance chuck here or the old toss and catch? I did once do a toss and catch on this little old asian lady in Vegas. She was working at the casino sweeping and one of the people I was with (a friend of a friend) decided to get a picture with her for some reason. She squeezed my muscles the way an old aunt might and laughing and talking imperceptibly. So on her request of "can you pick me up?" I picked her up and caught her like a child. They got a picture but I never saw them again. She was laughing hysterically after that. Only girl I managed to pick up in Vegas, lol.

2ebbrata
June 3rd, 2008



okay last like thursday so its been like 7 days now and my head still hurts not a sharp pain like a regular headach and its not always pounding.like you no when u got a sinus and u move or shake you head it hurts well my head only hurts when i shak it foward no side to side and when i bend down it dosnt hurt liek a sinus or bend back up... there also a smalll bump on my head i havnt noticed befor maby casue i didnt take the time to recoganize it but my mom has a simaler one im 15 and scared ive a soft life and i have a phobie of death and parliztion stufff i lov biking and id cry if i was d mobilized in the futer of thishttp://ehealthforum.com/health/head-hurts-when-shaken-t142888.html#ixzz1Dca68uvG

What? Zuh?

 

[RedDjinn]

2ebbrata
June 3rd, 2008



okay last like thursday so its been like 7 days now and my head still hurts not a sharp pain like a regular headach and its not always pounding.like you no when u got a sinus and u move or shake you head it hurts well my head only hurts when i shak it foward no side to side and when i bend down it dosnt hurt liek a sinus or bend back up... there also a smalll bump on my head i havnt noticed befor maby casue i didnt take the time to recoganize it but my mom has a simaler one im 15 and scared ive a soft life and i have a phobie of death and parliztion stufff i lov biking and id cry if i was d mobilized in the futer of this

Read more: Headache and Migraines Forum - head hurts when shaken http://ehealthforum.com/health/head-hurts-when-shaken-t142888.html#ixzz1Dca68uvG

Your fine...

Did you have a head injury?? Take any new meds??

 

[Hot Rod Dave]

life is like a sore dick

you cant beat it, unless youre into the pain!!

HRD

 

[Madnis]

Got ya. Frankly though I'm an ends means guy. Only problem with that is an over-worked committee design is universally devoid of soul. Just out of curiosity how do you feel about the guys who pay you for your vision then call it their own? Money asides. I know in the world of comics at least there's sometimes some bad blood there.

:) in terms of business. first, it was never really my idea, just my interpretation of his idea. I get paid for it so I honestly don't think too much about it at all. so long as I have fun, I don't mind not one bit if he calls my interpretation his idea, because it is his idea, so long as i get credit for my part in it, i'm fine. now if it was all my idea, and he said otherwise, then we got problems. that's when lawyers get invovled.

Pics or it didn't happen. (Just wants to see how cute this chick was)

damn, must have been my imagination then... gotta step my picture taking game up.

Throw? We talking about a distance chuck here or the old toss and catch? I did once do a toss and catch on this little old asian lady in Vegas. She was working at the casino sweeping and one of the people I was with (a friend of a friend) decided to get a picture with her for some reason. She squeezed my muscles the way an old aunt might and laughing and talking imperceptibly. So on her request of "can you pick me up?" I picked her up and caught her like a child. They got a picture but I never saw them again. She was laughing hysterically after that. Only girl I managed to pick up in Vegas, lol.

distance chuck. just to see her adorable little ass scream in terror.. it should be too cute!

 

[TsunamiBye]

I felt obliged to put this here. Pics are self-explanatory.

 

[Madnis]

man...............

lost in the darkness...
i feel i need a light.
bathed in false light,
I feel like I see well enough to walk my path
only to find my steps unsteady, unsure.
not supported, I question my light, I question myself.
I stumble, and i curse it all.


this is not a poem.

this is spoken word.

and with that...

here's to one of the most under rated GREATEST anime of all time.

feel my melancholy reflection.

 

[WARUI_NE]

my bangs are sticking straight up and its pissing me off =/

 

[Ghengis_John]

man...............

lost in the darkness...
i feel i need a light.
bathed in false light,
I feel like I see well enough to walk my path
only to find my steps unsteady, unsure.
not supported, I question my light, I question myself.
I stumble, and i curse it all.


this is not a poem.

this is spoken word.

and with that...

here's to one of the most under rated GREATEST anime of all time.

feel my melancholy reflection.

I've never seen it. But I did stumble on a vid for it a few days ago and thought it looked interesting by coincidence. But now youtube is recommending me all kinds of animal romance videos. The video I saw was the intro. What is this business?