Slade
[14] Master
Never thought I'd see so many complaints about easily whiff-punishable i47+ verticals.
One complaint that might be justified is that whiff punishes aren't as strong as they used to be, primarily due to the weakening of bread-and-buffer 3B combos and the removal of Brave Edges. (I've only had the chance to mess around with a handful of characters so this may not be the case across the board.)
Instead of going for optimal damage off whiff punishers, the game seems to incentivize oki setups. This is certainly the case for characters such as Groh, Ivy, and Voldo. Their mid/low mixups were buffed to compensate for the fact that they've gone from being 50/50s to being 25/25/25/25s due to RE/GI and break attacks entering the mix.
It will take time to develop an understanding of how strong each option is in relation to its opposites. The fact that I'm seeing people complain about conventional 50/50s such as Ivy's 2A+G/2B+K and also complain about the counters to those mixups (RE/GI) tells me that we're still pretty far from achieving that understanding.
EDIT: RE is i46 apparently, or i66 if fully charged.
One complaint that might be justified is that whiff punishes aren't as strong as they used to be, primarily due to the weakening of bread-and-buffer 3B combos and the removal of Brave Edges. (I've only had the chance to mess around with a handful of characters so this may not be the case across the board.)
Instead of going for optimal damage off whiff punishers, the game seems to incentivize oki setups. This is certainly the case for characters such as Groh, Ivy, and Voldo. Their mid/low mixups were buffed to compensate for the fact that they've gone from being 50/50s to being 25/25/25/25s due to RE/GI and break attacks entering the mix.
It will take time to develop an understanding of how strong each option is in relation to its opposites. The fact that I'm seeing people complain about conventional 50/50s such as Ivy's 2A+G/2B+K and also complain about the counters to those mixups (RE/GI) tells me that we're still pretty far from achieving that understanding.
EDIT: RE is i46 apparently, or i66 if fully charged.
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