SC Controversial Topics and General Shitposting Thread

Rusted Blade

[14] Master
I hope the combat becomes intuitive because I feel like the worlds most absolute moron after playing against the guard scorpion. What was a simple battle in the original had me doing single digit damage in the remake. I was getting absolutely wrecked due to me running out of MP. I didn't die but I had to shower myself in potions...
Ditto, and I'm by no means an RPG/action RPG novice. I just found the entire thing cumbersome, to the point where I was putting in one of the worst performances in terms of effective and efficient combat and use of resources that I can ever recall making since I first picked up Final Fantasy in..1990, I want to say? I was quite low on resources towards the end and was having a hard time keeping both characters up and active to the extent that I could continue to get decent attacks in during the windows available. I really hope it's just a matter of my not having had enough time in the demo for everything to "click", because if the whole experience was fairly close to that level of awkwardness, I'd have trouble getting through that game, no matter how hard they nailed every other aspect of recreating that classic.
Mastering the shortcuts helps a lot with the flow, but honestly, the problem most of us have had with the combat (I include myself in this) is mistaking the game for an action RPG. It's really not.

It's a sort of hybrid of ARPG and ATB. Look at it more as an evolved version of the ATB system the original game had, just where the characters and enemies are always in movement and performing whittling damage while looking for your input to effect the decisive moves.
Well, I definitely perceived it as an attempt at such a hybrid, but however one classifies it, I have to wonder if the ultimate response players and critics will have is that it actually combines aspects of both traditional RPGs and action RPGs in such a way that its not really intuitive or conductive to either good ATB strategy or good ARPG flow. But it sounds like you are maybe saying that it is in fact just a matter of time and that ultimately it feels fluid, strategic, and enjoyable?
 
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RyujiSakamoto

Premium Member
Surely it can't be as bad as FFXV though. In that game it felt like you just mashed buttons with no strategy. One of the least enjoyable combat experiences in a FF game I've ever had to deal with.
 

FleshMasher

[13] Hero
It was mocked as "X-button - the game" but i really liked the fighting system.
More ATB than current FFs.
Paradigm shift was cool af.
A lot of intricacies with the battle mechanics and the characters, like:

Vanille and Fang can't really be buffers with others or they'll just alternately cast buffga with the other, normally buffing team members
Buff
Buffga
Buff
Buffga
lol.

Lightning, although you can't make her a tank at the start, late game can make Vladislaus whiff 90% of his attacks as tank.

And some characters are better at crowd control than others.

And i really liked Lightning, even made a CAS Lightning with Natsu's style.

Oh and FF13 was also my first ever platinum trophy :)
 
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Pocky-Yoshi

[14] Master
Final Fantasy series is nice, but I could never finish their games. Other games catch my interest.The only RPGs I've ever finished was Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and 3, Phantasy Star Portable 1 and 2, and at one time Pokemon gameboy games gen 1 to gen 6(I quit pokemon after x and y).

I'm currently into Monster Hunter World and Phantasy Star Online 2 though.
 

Fatal_Exodus

[14] Master
God, I'm still waiting on my copy of FFVII Remake to come in while whittling away at Animal Crossing (and as of yet unfinished playthrough of FFXII on the side).
 

SpellcraftQuill

[14] Master
On the fence with the remake. Generally need to see an LP before going with a purchase.

Anyways I’ve decided that the main region the novel/RPG I’m planning is now an archipelago of colonies the protagonist/ my main CaS is trying to unite.
 

DanteSC3

[14] Master
On the fence with the remake. Generally need to see an LP before going with a purchase.
Don’t you lose your sense of wonder doing that, though? If you’ve already seen someone else do it, it won’t feel anywhere near as special or adventurous, you tracking new ground, you discovering things all your own. These are things that excite me about playing games, especially RPGs or anything heavily story-based.

Related, I’ve been playing the Yakuza series, and I really am sad I didn’t get into these games sooner. I finished Yakuza 0 last week and finished Yakuza Kiwami yesterday, and they’re just fantastic experiences all-around. I’m going to be sad when I finish Yakuza Kiwami 2 and then don’t have any of the others to play, I’m sure (playing on PC).
 

RyujiSakamoto

Premium Member
Don’t you lose your sense of wonder doing that, though? If you’ve already seen someone else do it, it won’t feel anywhere near as special or adventurous, you tracking new ground, you discovering things all your own. These are things that excite me about playing games, especially RPGs or anything heavily story-based.

Related, I’ve been playing the Yakuza series, and I really am sad I didn’t get into these games sooner. I finished Yakuza 0 last week and finished Yakuza Kiwami yesterday, and they’re just fantastic experiences all-around. I’m going to be sad when I finish Yakuza Kiwami 2 and then don’t have any of the others to play, I’m sure (playing on PC).

Since they ported 3,4 and 5 to PS4 I imagine a PC release will be incoming this year sometime.
 

DanteSC3

[14] Master
Since they ported 3,4 and 5 to PS4 I imagine a PC release will be incoming this year sometime.
We can hope so, and it's a reasonable assumption to make. I just doubt they'll have it ready for me by next week, which is likely the point at which I'll be done with Yakuza Kiwami 2, so there will still be an angst-filled delay, unless I cave and pick them up on PS4. But then there's also the matter of Yakuza 6, which, if the Yakuza 3-5 Remastered Collection comes to PC, it's reasonable enough to suggest that Yakuza 6 would come to PC as well, but for now, it's PS4 exclusive. Yakuza 7 on the horizon as well, also PS4 exclusive... I've already removed PS4 from my life, and I'd like for it to stay that way, personally. But I love these games so much, I might be forced to cave... I don't like it. :talimcry:
 

RyujiSakamoto

Premium Member
We can hope so, and it's a reasonable assumption to make. I just doubt they'll have it ready for me by next week, which is likely the point at which I'll be done with Yakuza Kiwami 2, so there will still be an angst-filled delay, unless I cave and pick them up on PS4. But then there's also the matter of Yakuza 6, which, if the Yakuza 3-5 Remastered Collection comes to PC, it's reasonable enough to suggest that Yakuza 6 would come to PC as well, but for now, it's PS4 exclusive. Yakuza 7 on the horizon as well, also PS4 exclusive... I've already removed PS4 from my life, and I'd like for it to stay that way, personally. But I love these games so much, I might be forced to cave... I don't like it. :talimcry:

Indeed they had a survey in the digital Yakuza collection for 3,4,5 asking players for feedback and some of the questions were whether they had played on PC so I imagine they are being coy about Steam releases to get impatient people to double dip!
 

RyujiSakamoto

Premium Member
I just look forward to the day where all games simultaneously release on all platforms. That may never come, due to consoles making deals with developers, but a girl can dream.

Sadly many Japanese publishers will hold back on PC releases of singleplayer heavy games because I guess they think they can get more sales by getting the console copies sold first..... (Western publishers have done this for giant games like GTA and Red Dead Redemption 2)

My PS4 and Switch have been among my least played consoles ever due to me switching to PC in 2017, but honestly with how big these goddamn games get it it nice to have console to put those data hog games onto (AKA those stupid battle royale games)

For now SEGA has my double dipping because I want my purchases to convince them to localize Yakuza Ishin and make a Kiwami Kenzan and then localize that too!
 

DanteSC3

[14] Master
Thankfully some publishers aren't doing the double dipping, of all the greedy overlords, Namco Bandai abstaining from it is actually kind of surprising. I get the hard drive space issue. I actually have an external hard drive that is dedicated to storing games that I'm not currently playing so that I can install the games I actually am playing to the SSD for faster loading times.

Sega is bumming me out, though. They acquired Atlus, which I thought for sure would mean that Atlus games would be coming to PC, and they even teased Catherine Classic last year, but... nothing since. I'd definitely pick up Catherine: Full Body and Persona 5 Royal if they'd come to PC. I've already played Catherine on Xbox 360 and Persona 5 on PS4, so I don't really have a drive to buy them again for PS4, but I definitely would pick them up if they came to PC. There's just so much more you can do with games on PC, with mods and the like, and generally the graphical options are better, officially supported or not. Like take SoulCalibur VI, imagining that I would have to deal with the blurry stage backgrounds would kill the game for me. But not only that, and this is kind of because of the double dipping I guess, but generally the PC version comes with all the content that gets nickle and dimed to consoles through preorders and various editions. On PC, you just get them all for buying the game, as it ought to be.
 

Fatal_Exodus

[14] Master
Nature Day is starting in ACNH tomorrow and I can't wait to overload my entire island with bushes. Funny how I'm still dumping hours upon hours into this game when I expected FFVIIR to be taking up the brunt of my playtime ever since I got it (I'm currently in chapter seven - the last time i played was like two days ago though lmao).