SCV Character Creation Discussion

Awesome video....I can't wait to create my original characters tha I have created in SCIII & SCIV and 3p & 4p costumes for regular characters....!!!!!
 
Runemaster said:
If I'm not mistaken, it shows on the trailer. XD
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The clothing, not the character itself.
KiraxSummers said:
I would, personally, be extremely happy if all the standard characters remained just that : Standard. I don't want to be able to change their body type and structure, just NO! Clothing is fine and all but have some respect -_-
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It wouldn`t make sense at all to do that, whats the point of making characters for a story if players will just fuck them up?
 
i can't believe everyone is still complaining about hitboxes this or hitboxes that. every time i read these something automatic in my mind clicks and i start thinking man SC5 is made by a bunch of newbs. but then reality kicks in and i realize, "oh wait a second! this was made by professionals that take feedback from the audience. so it would only make sense that they realized the hitbox problem and either made improvements on it or fixed it altogether. I doubt they would make a feature where you can change the character's size and think, "heh, that's all we're working on. I don't care that a bigger person would obviously have an advantage. like hell we're gonna fix something that wouldn't even be seen in an 2D mugen fighting game. hitboxes is a waste of time and effort." let's actually try pretending that team soul know what they are doing.
 
They don't care about "balance" CaS,because anyway in serious matches/competition are banned.
Simple as that.
If you try use logic instead do Namco's white-knight-whining-leave-britney-alone is really easy understand that not only there are OBVIOUS hitbox problems that will fuck up totally balancement,but also that they are focused on balance the true game,and they can't waste time and don't give a fuck about balance CaS.
That's the truth,nice or not.

NOBODY say that they're not expert,professional,serious or don't "know what they are doing"
On the contrary,they are all these things,and exactly because they're serious and they want do a great SCV they don't give a fuck about balance the editor mode gameplay and they spent theyr precious and limited time for the true game
 
What I don’t get in the slightest is how Namco seems to be rewarding larger heights with additional power. They already have more reach, why are they not even pretending to introduce some kind of balancing mechanism — let alone including an anti-balancing mechanism?

Perhaps I’m tired and I’m reading the stats all wrong, or this “feature” is experimental, or hasn’t been properly explained, or whatever. I just hope that nothing so blatantly illogical as giving makes it into online, or that there is some kind of filter if so.

Yes, online is bad, but that’s not a reason to accept more crap, it’s a reason to push for every conceivable improvement possible. The best player matches with the lowest lag in SCIV are enjoyable if not exactly in the same league as offline, so the potential is there.
 
Gabedamien said:
What I don’t get in the slightest is how Namco seems to be rewarding larger heights with additional power. They already have more reach, why are they not even pretending to introduce some kind of balancing mechanism — let alone including an anti-balancing mechanism?
Perhaps I’m tired and I’m reading the stats all wrong, or this “feature” is experimental, or hasn’t been properly explained, or whatever. I just hope that nothing so blatantly illogical as giving makes it into online, or that there is some kind of filter if so.

Yes, online is bad, but that’s not a reason to accept more crap, it’s a reason to push for every conceivable improvement possible. The best player matches with the lowest lag in SCIV are enjoyable if not exactly in the same league as offline, so the potential is there.
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Gabe i'm totally with you on the bolded second part :D
Specially since games like SF4/SSF4 proved that also if not as legit as Offline,at best connection a good online mode can be nice also for skilled players. And again Namco itself said to want offer better/more solid experience this time.

The first part no,but not because lack of logic,just because yet the height thing alone is a total balancement fuck up.
I know the key of the post here is "pretending"( :D ),but still i even prefer they clearly let it go in that way instead put in a fake balancement that can give an dumb argument to post about how serious are CaS players :D
Balancement is still a very hard work alone on the true game,imagine with all these possible size-char combinations
From this point they can add hadoukens,robots missiles and dragons for what i care, i simply accept CaS as being not the true game. Is CaS Calibur, not Soul Calibur. You buy the game and you get both games :D

Aaand we arrive at the same conclusion where me,you and Idle was on the other thread
Simple option Yes/No will allow people to chose if they want play SC or CC :D
Let's pray for it, if they put in this we can enjoy SC and they can enjoy CC,with NBA Leixia, Ufo and dinosaurs
In b4 Malice's do private room blah blah.
No,is'nt the same. Have the SC option allow to know manymany other players that enjoy the true game(even if online version of it), allow to find opponents if all friend are offline and overall is just so better, more quantity, more variety of opponent styles, more new trick from new peoples you learn. Private room with friend close the circle, same peoples over and over, you need play around online to expand it with new challengers and training partners
And specially, there's nothing wrong with it
There is no logic against it
 
Am I missing something here? How can anybody tell how the balance is or hitbox issues there are from that very vague video? But it seems like every time we get a glimpse of something cool about this game, the "Debbie Downers" start in on issues like balance and technical blah blah blah thats not even warranted yet. Personally I'm getting more pumped about this game the more I hear about it!
 
Donsteel said:
Am I missing something here? How can anybody tell how the balance is or hitbox issues there are from that very vague video? But it seems like every time we get a glimpse of something cool about this game, the "Debbie Downers" start in on issues like balance and technical blah blah blah thats not even warranted yet. Personally I'm getting more pumped about this game the more I hear about it!
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I totally agree with you. Guys (and girls), you have to remember that this was just a teaser reveal. It is a very good bet that this was an early-in-production video made when the game wasn't very far in yet. That video tells us next to nothing about how the balance will play out.

But Daishi is supposedly going to release, IIRC, a CaS tutorial-type thing, and that is what you should be waiting for to base your balance complaints on. Not this teaser, which doesn't even show balance at all.
 
Donsteel said:
Am I missing something here? How can anybody tell how the balance is or hitbox issues there are from that very vague video? -usual nonsense leave britney alone-!
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Last time,because is just boring repeat and repeat
2 meter CaS on a way shorter character style can have only two way,both broken
A- hitbox change size too. Range change a lot
B- hitbox stay the same size. Ridicolous ghost not-collision
If you see a "C" way,you're welcome.
(and "no" in b4 damage/speed/stats tweak,that will just be fake-balance. True balancement of a FG is way harder than this)

And also this for the last time,ever for the thing of repeat and repeat being boring
People are not necessary "against" CaS
Personally i even like a lot the new editor possibility, just ask at Pocky-Yoshi and others if i like CaS or not
Some people just will like being able to chose when play CaS Broken Calibur and when the true game,Soul Calibur
 
Gatsu said:
Last time,because is just boring repeat and repeat
2 meter CaS on a way shorter character style can have only two way,both broken
A- hitbox change size too. Range change a lot
B- hitbox stay the same size. Ridicolous ghost not-collision
If you see a "C" way,you're welcome.
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Gatsu, what you have to realize is that there is no "2 meter CaS" available. The smallest you can be is Talim/Amy's size in SCIV. I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be mean or rude of any of that, but I'm starting to get sick about this really being the sole focus of your argument, when it's been proven in that vague teaser to be impossible.

I'm not holding anything against you though for having your own opinions, because everybody is entitled to them, so I hope it's vice-versa.
 
Inawordyes said:
Gatsu, what you have to realize is that there is no "2 meter CaS" available. .
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Gatsu said:
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Okay, I am not as adept in figuring out meters as I am feet. However, I was referring more to the fact that most of your argument early on was mostly regarding a 'two meter, yoda-sized character', which I would explain my confusion.

How many feet is two meters, though? The shortest I know people can be in feet (if they're not born with a deficit, that is) is around 4 ft., so what is that in meters?
 
Inawordyes said:
Okay, I am not as adept in figuring out meters as I am feet. However, I was referring more to the fact that most of your argument early on was mostly regarding a 'two meter, yoda-sized character', which I would explain my confusion.

How many feet is two meters, though? The shortest I know people can be in feet (if they're not born with a deficit, that is) is around 4 ft., so what is that in meters?
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I never said yoda-size, i believe the shortest will be around SC4's Amy height
2 meters is... -let me check- ...for americans is 6'7
Now take the tallest 3d model you see in the pic and imagine him use Leixia style. No way it can work the same,it can only happen A or B ways write in the other post,any dude that know his shit about 3d FG mechanic will say you the same.
Again,is going to be fun play brainless joke matches, aside the tons of originals chars i'm going to make also epic cool recreations like a 2 meter Gatsu from Berserk with Sieg style, or a short Link from LoZ with Pat style.
But still,if i bet some money with a friend no way we allow CaS,specially if with altered height,they're just going to be broken.
 
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