DarkMessiah
[09] Warrior
when i said use them both i ment voldo and sets ;)
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On the other hand i suppose Ivy is much stronger and rewarding. So if you'd ask me which of both i'd main, i'd say Ivy.
You got that completly wrong. Ivy's Risk Vs. Reward is terrible.
Take her 5-Hit: If you mess up 1 input, you lost out on push back, and 30 damage, and knock Down, making the move unsafe on HIT. When you finally go get it, it's still unsafe on Block, and pushback on the attack protects you from MAYBE Talim. For what.... the potential of 24 extra damage? Yeah...
Ivy's move list has 2 attacks that leave her + on frames as well. SW FC3B, and CL 6AK. the 2nd one though... is a High High String, so... not so worth it. If you play Ivy, you need to get used to being at disadvantage ALL the time, and having to bait your opponent into things to get an attack off based on her stances.
If you are going for WORK reward, use Setsuka. She is easier to play with the Basics, and Punish with, and her basics deal more damage.
That was a rather subjective opinion on my part i just felt that if you get Ivy's hard moves and stance changes right you are going to kick more ass than with Setsuka once you have mastered her.
Subjective because i have been beaten more often and more painful by Ivys compared to Setsukas.
I forgot why, but because of how the buffer works, it's much easier to do the JF version in a combo or after an attack. So it might be the reason.for some reason i find i do sets jf umbrella more in matches than practice
Scrubby-Setsuka doesn't go very far with her typical scrub-bread and scrub-butter : bA and 2A+B,22A+B,A.
I want to rant about online-Ivy being just as retard-friendly as Mitsurugi, but this thread is about mastering a character's potential. Not how easy or difficult it is to win with at whatever level.
I'm not calling you out on your opinion, nor am I saying your opinion is invalid, I probably should have worded my reply differently, but it is easy to see what each character has when their basic attacks connect. Ivy's Risk is MUCH higher than Setsuka's for using advanced attacks. If CS or SS is Ducked, you just ate a heavy hit. If 214B is blocked, you are out 30% of your HP EASY. But those are technically Staple moves that she needs to use all the time. Setsuka's staple attacks are not as dangerous to use.
Were you serious or joking? Probably joking...(...)in all reality rock is the hardest to master
Get yourself a failbox360 and I will!You should fight my scrub Sets.
Taki isn't even that hard to master. Just figure out good interupts and combos. Try to chain a bunch of Taki's billion hit combos and ur set. But i feel that setsuka might be a little harder to master JUST (get it?) becuz of all of her justs. but for u to be able to chain combos...Ivy is harder. Especially her uber grabs!!!
Were you serious or joking? Probably joking...
Get yourself a failbox360 and I will!
I have to put Taki in here too.
If you mess up A:6 as a punisher you get:
Tadah! An A! with 8 damage instead of an i10 A:6 with 34 damage and knockdown. Quite devastating.