Tira - Combo Discussion

[Paranormal_Oreo]

The following have been added

Oops. Delete the CH for the GS 3B combo. Accident.

 

[Violent Vodka]

Alright.

 

[Ramus]

I was thinking, do you guys find JS 66 B A+B usefull??

 

[Wandrian]

JS 66bA+B+K ~ A+B? I don't think there's a situation where that can actually combo. Ditto for JS 66B ~ A+B.

 

[Ramus]

Oh sorry, it was JS 66B~A+B

 

[Wandrian]

Yeah, ditto for that one as well. Pretty sure there's no plausible, useful situation where that can actually combo.

EDIT: Check out the combo list. It's pretty solid, bro.

 

[Wid0maker]

It actually does combo, but not if you hit JS 66B at max range. If you hit with JS 66B, quickly tap forward and press A+B and it'll combo for 31 damage. I think it would be ok to throw in every once in a while since the mood change rate of A+B on hit is fairly decent, but I wouldn't rely on it.

 

[Wandrian]

Thank you for being more knowledgeable than me, sir :D

 

[Ramus]

Oh i see, well bad ideas are bad, sorry you guys

 

[Wid0maker]

Thank you for being more knowledgeable than me, sir :D

haha we're all here to help each other :)

Oh i see, well bad ideas are bad, sorry you guys

I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly...tbh, it might actually be a pretty decent way to change moods. It just needs to be field-tested more.

 

[Wandrian]

Yeah, those combos involving a quick dash forward are solid. When you're good enough to pull them off consistently that is. I'm not ;_;

 

[Violent Vodka]

66B at point-blank range ~ A+B connects, but I don't think it'd be worth it.. 66B 4A gives a great mixup opportunity.

 

[sillycatsteven]

and i thought 4K has similar change rate as A+B except A+B don't give you headaches.
66B, 4A, 4K does more damage too

 

[Wid0maker]

well, at the very least, it's another option.

 

[Requiem]

What's the best option when your opponent blocks the first hit of a JS 66B* and gets hit by the second? The opponent starts to spin on the ground while you're free to follow up.

Just tested it and best I could get was, in terms of meterless damage:
If Jolly - 4A, 4K (can switch to Gloomy for 666B follow-up)
If Gloomy - 4A, 4K, 666B

 

[Ramus]

What's the best option when your opponent blocks the first hit of a JS 66B* and gets hit by the second? The opponent starts to spin on the ground while you're free to follow up.

Just tested it and best I could get was, in terms of meterless damage:
If Jolly - 4A, 4K (can switch to Gloomy for 666B follow-up)
If Gloomy - 4A, 4K, 666B

In gloomy just do the basic 4K 666B
Jolly do 8way run B or 4K

 

[Violent Vodka]

I always do 4A 4K in either state, but Gloomy 22_88B 666B is good, too. Jolly 22_88B CE is good, too. If 22B hits them in the air, you'll likely get the full CE, but they can escape back right/back left. If 22B hits grounded, you'll get the short CE, etc. 6A+B would be a good trap.

 

[Violent Vodka]

Gloomy:

• - 52 - Doesn't connect at 's max range.
• dash forward - 59 ~ chance of persona change.
• dash forward :bA+B+K: - 69 / 0.5 meter ~ chance of persona change.
• dash forward - 83 ~ chance of persona change.
• dash forward :bA+B+K: - 90 / 0.5 meter ~ chance of persona change.
• :kA+B+K: - 63 / 0.5 meter ~ chance of persona change.

Added to the combo list.

 

[setto-kun]

Added to the combo list.

Aren't all of these can be ukemi'ed?

 

[Violent Vodka]

Yeah, they can. I'll be sure to add a note. Sorry.