Frayhua
[14] Master
@Oh_my_foot At the of day, I can make opponent's moves not matter. By the way, Dampieree's moves don't matter. Leixia vs Damp = 10-0 in Leixia's favor.
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@Oh_my_foot At the of day, I can make opponent's moves not matter. By the way, Dampieree's moves don't matter. Leixia vs Damp = 10-0 in Leixia's favor.
Foot
[12] Conqueror
as usual i have no idea what you´re talking about. And also no rly not.
subsmoke
[10] Knight
It's no opinion, it's the truth. Leixia is a carbon copy of Xianghua, Xiba is Kilik with a food obsession gimmick and Natsu is just a younger and less stoic Taki. They were lazy efforts by Namco to try and replace the old characters without having to do much work. Patroklos and Pyrrha are a little more original but Pat was a sorry excuse for a hero and their alt forms are heavily based on Cassandra and Setsuka.
Overall I think Natsu and Pyrrha are okay and wouldn't mind them coming back. I'd ditch Cassandra for Pyrrha and use both Taki and Natsu and branch their styles out so they're not so similar to each other. I never want to see the other three again though.
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Frayhua
[14] Master
I forgot to put end in their. My point is that I'm just really confident in my characters. I wasn't hating when I said "insert character's moves don't matter".
I wouldn't mind Xianghua returning as long as she's not OP & people don't beg Project Soul to make her OP like Viola.
ZER0
[13] Hero
lol jesus I've heard some ignorant statements, but holy crap this is almost Nyte level ignorance...actually its borderline facebook warrior ignorance.
SomeRandomHuman
[13] Hero
Replacing somebody is generally a bad idea, really.
Frayhua
[14] Master
Especially Setsuka
Crash X
[14] Master
This thread in a nutshell at it's current state.
subsmoke
[10] Knight
You know something Zero? You talk a whole lot of shit on here but you don't really say anything of value. Instead of going on about how "ignorant" I am, why don't you try and prove me wrong? You're not really going to sit here and tell me you think Leixia is anything but a cheap knock off of Xianghua are you? Or that Xiba's food obsession gimmick was anything but a poor attempt at making him seem different from Kilik? Or that Patroklos wasn't a shitty excuse for a hero? None of that is "ignorant", it's the truth.
ZER0
[13] Hero
its been 5 bloody years...am I to believe people are capable of whining about some semi-minor things on the same level as bitchy women/children?
granted the story mode and other material doesn't add much to the newer characters but y'know people have had 5 years to get used to the new characters. So this whole argument of people get attached to characters and successors is kinda silly at this point
as for that last paragraph...it's merely opinion and subjective...but I'll give you mine anyway;
People constantly see Pat as the "hero" or the "good guy" and dislike him because he sux at it...should be at this point (or if you've played SC4) that you realise SC story has taken a bit of a darker turn, Pat isn't a hero, but he is the Protagonist of this sorry excuse for a story, and his motives if you pay attention to it...(or read up on the material) make sense, he's been manipulated by Nightmare and Elysium both playing on his insecurities:
Nightmare prays on his desire to find Pyrrha and intent to kill Tira
Elysium prays on his once strong bond he had with his mother
he does see the error of his ways and shows he has matured, but since the story is shite...it's basically hastened and everything happens too fast
Now does this story sound familiar? about a cocky blonde hero, who did a few bad things and wishes to redeem himself?
give it a think...
I'll end for now with even tho Pat is a cunt...he's still a breath of fresh air with his personality and his own take on the sword and shield style and with his own.
Same goes for the new characters...Taki's stoicness gets stale after several of the same thing...I'll never get tired of her tits tho
Crash X
[14] Master
Pyrrha Omega is more based off of Sophitia's moveset actually.
Frayhua
[14] Master
I see what your saying trying to compare Pat's beginnings to Siegfried's. True, but Siegfried didn't replace any character to be a great chracter. The problem with Pat is that Daishi wanted him to be super cool in every way possible.
subsmoke
[10] Knight
We don't "see" him as the hero, that's what he was and that's what we were supposed to see him as but he was nothing like a hero should be. It's not just what he does, it's the way he acts. It's his cocky douchebag personality. Siegfried in Soul Edge was similar but he wasn't promoted as the hero of the story. That was Sophitia's role.
Crash X
[14] Master
They both started off on the same level but after traumatizing events for both, they both smartened up and set their priorities straight. Sieg wanting to destroy Nightmare and Soul Edge as a way of redeeming himself for his sins, and Pat wanting to free Pyrrha from Soul Edge's control.
Frayhua
[14] Master
I see the similarities to Siegfried, but Setsuka's style was destroyed in the process just to make Pat super cool.
ZER0
[13] Hero
doesn't matter if Sieg replaced a character or not, you clearly understand Pat's story mirrors Siegs, with a few changes here and there of course.
Pat is not a hero, and we're made clearly of that in his opening scene, Pat is the "protagonist" understand? come say it with me; "P-R-O-T-A-G-O-N-I-S-T".
lets look back at what you said:
well damn son...I've somewhat underestimated your intelligence, there IS a brain in there and it does indeed function lol.
Siegfried was promoted to the protagonist status after during SC3 iirc, SC1 Kilik was the star of the show and I forget who had the lead role in SC2....but none of that takes away that Sieg was as much of an asshole as Pat was.
and lastly for this paragraph:
because just saying "it's not ignorance, it's the truth" gives it any actual value right? I could explain forever on how different everyone is from there predeccesors...ranging from upbringing, to choice of clothes, to habits, to like and dislikes, to personalities, to their current story...all the way down to their actual gameplay itself. The only...maybe...actual things that would be similar..would be the weapons they use...and kinda maybe how they dress. and you wouldn't know half of this because like I say before, you're ignorant...and now I'm positive you're close to Nyte level of ignorance because just like him you don't do any research and just say the first thing that comes to your mind and think it's true
Frayhua
[14] Master
Are your happy that Setsuka's style got destroyed in the process of a bad story mode? If Setsuka wasn't replaced Pat wouldn't be hated as much. I would've liked Pat if Project Soul didn't destroy Setsuka's style. Yes, Pat's "story" is similar to Siegfried's.
ZER0
[13] Hero
you're the only one who cares about that, doesn't stop Woahhzz or Shad from reking people in tourneys and it doesn't stop them from being top tier
Frayhua
[14] Master
Leixia makes A.Pat's moves not matter, but A.Pat can't make Leixia's moves not matter.
ZER0
[13] Hero
lol k