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Malice: Thanks for the logic but its common sense information and I am well aware of it.

On to the drama: (I have interesting information)

Since Bibulus wants to jump in a situation and attack me i'm gonna show u the real reason as to why; and after i'm gonna deal with KDZ and place my resume/track record in here. This entire quote is from my inbox mailed to me by Bibulus himself 12/31/2009.

Something-Unique said:
BrewtusBibulus said:
So heres the deal with this whole trip... The tickets arent going to stay at $500 for long so the faster you settle this budget thing the faster you get your ticket booked. That list is a bit off... Lets face it Ramon doesnt have the cash

Now your first question is why am I telling you this in PM... thats easy. My solution involves giving me a spot to free up extra budget. Why not just bring it up myself in the thread? Because if I bring it up people will not be so receptive because Im just trying to get a spot on the basis of I have the ticket already. So I want you to bring it up? Why you? Because you have been to nats and played all the other voldo players there so you have an opinion thats valid. Also if I get KDZ or Jaxel to do it they will just sound like they are trying to get their buddy a spot because Ive got history with them.

Why should you do that? Ive been a top player in every SC game since 2 and this is actually the longest dry spell Ive had where I didnt win a tourney besides the year and a half it took me to level up enough to win my first one in SC2. Now Im not going to say I deserve the spot over alphamale... but I would bet that Manta didnt get nearly as close to beating you as Ive been on so many occasions one round from a win in tourney against you... and youve seen me improving since the last times we played (if you dont think Ive been improving ask Ramon). I think everyone can agree Im not free no matter who you are... oh and I went 5-7 against malek before that koga tourney, 4-5 against kayane in vegas (while sandbagging, I literally could have finished it at 5-3 but I didnt take a tech trap for RO in case I faced her in tourney I wanted to be able to nab free rounds), I beat the guys who were staying at my house consistently (I think Hayate is the only one who is on their team). So yeah I know how to counter french tactics

Final incentive is since I already booked my ticket I can give you my share of the donation money if I get any. Can you say double donation money? I would rather give it to everyone but I have wanted to play in this tourney for the past 5 years and I will be on that team no matter what it takes.

I would recommend you goto travelocity or expedia and look up the expenses yourself because this trip isnt cheap and its not going to get better anytime soon.

Followed by this just a few days after when I didn't respond. Here goes ur money hustling.

If AlphaMale can't go, why not place Bibulus on the list?

He's a voldo player, he's the best voldo in the NE (which is the most actively competitive SC4 community), and he has a lot of experience against French players, since he played against them for almost a week straight at his house. The French also are weak against Voldo, so not only did he do well against them, but we'll need a Voldo for this.

He already has a ticket there, so that would also be one taken care of.

I'll be able to go regardless, and I've had a passport since I was born, so that should take care of two players if you'll let him in.

The real reason I responded so late to Bibulus's message is because he is not qualified for the team even with the cash incentive. However I then responded with this 01/05/2010.

Something-Unique said:
Sorry for the late reply haven't had the real time to respond appropriately.

Your proposition is super solid and I think u have an excellent point. However I have been thinking of a way to get u around Esom. I do remember Esom saying he was guaranteed to go if the other voldo's said they couldn't. I would back u up over him but i don't know if Thuggish and the rest would vouch for u.

I will state some points in about 2 days and persuade Thuggish and RTD over the phone. KDZ is ur peoples so i'm sure he would vouch for u already.

Gimme 2 days.

Seems like i'm gonna go for this incentive right. Wrong as not only is Bibulus not qualified but I had preference for Esom since the beggining if Alphamale didn't go. During my phone conversation with RTD and Thuggish not once did I even try to argue a case for Bibulus and in fact was only feeding his head with bullshit for a back up if Esom didn't go making it a win lose situation.

Really think about it as essentially all my travel expenses for the ticket would have been paid in full if I vouched for Bibulus and even then I still did not.

I will do the track record thing and address KDZ in the next post as this one is long due to all the quotes.
 
I've already defended my country successfully at the World 2004 Team Tournament in Cannes and at the 2009 International tournament on our turf. France said that they will let me use the cow girl and I just wanted to see how powerful she was on a global scale since she has never tasted defeat.

But if KDZ wants Ceirnian to go so bad, then have Ceirnian post and I will drop out. I'm cool with Ceirnian and I actually think that he will do well.

And while we are on the subject, why should KDZ get a free pass.

Seriously...I was just looking at some previous tournament results and it doesn't seem like KDZ even has a main character and his tournament placements are very inconsistent to say the least.

In France, he won't be able to counter pick his way to victory because of the character lock.

And if we are looking for the BEST Cassandra, that would easily be JTO the Pro aka John. If you just see for yourself, he keeps placing higher than KDZ at majors:

NEC9

Internationals


The results don't lie.

Also, JTO the mutha fuckin Pro at least has a main character and he will not have to struggle with an identity crises(Hilde, Cass, Hilde) like KDZ.

Besides, the last time we let KDZ defend our country against France(Evo 2009), he couldn't even win a game. Well, that actually may be too much credit...that man was struggling to actually get a round. And even though he made it to the finals by counter picking, he didn't even have enough respect for the USA to even try to counter pick in the finals because of.....who knows???

Why would we put ourselves in that situation again?

Aside from that, he seems to have his own idea of a USA team, which is not in line with what the rest of the community(including the potential USA team candidates) has agreed on, and he seems to be intentionally screwing with the 'team chemistry' by irrationally questioning their credentials.

Let's just hope that he hasn't bought his plane ticket already.

So after gathering everyone's opinion, let me get this right... the new USA team is:
Oof from Canada (Replace me and Ceirnian)
WingZero (replace SU)
STD from Canada and Dream Killer (tag team to replace Thug)
JTO (replace KDZ)
Bibulus (replace alpha, esom and manta)
Vints from Canada (just because)

Whatever is decided, it needs to happen now. Ticket prices are pushing $900 dollars now and the USA team needs to start practicing.
 
I really have no business here except for fan morale- but how can Oof or Vints be part of team USA if they're from Canada? doesn't add up to me.

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nvm, just read oof's post earlier.
 
First lets point this out. Since this is my very first SC game ever (SC4 that is) I notice a number of things being the player who came in from the outside.

There is no Justing Wong like player in SC4 where one person dominates damn near every single tournament he goes to. The closest thing SC4 has to that is Thuggish_Pond whom is always top 3 regardless of either the quality or quantity of the tournament he goes to. He also defended the U.S. for us and won Nationals which was international competition and a tournament of high calibur. Did u? As we continue down the stretch he is still super consistent even now placing high at all times making him the undisputed best in the game no question. He would have easily won the recent NEC10 as well if the bullshit had been cut and he used his main Amy like he did vs. Dreamkiller in the Winner Finals and cleaned up easy for those who didin't notice that and only saw the bullshit shenanigan GF's.

With that said KDZ ur 2nd place placing at Evo is pure shear luck and nothing more. Why? Cause u have been super inconsistent proceeding it most notably ur massive failure at Nats right after and the rest of the tournaments that have followed it regardless of quality or quantity. The intitial tournaments early on in the game's life cycle which u used to be the best in the east coast has long since passed and u have been a failure since. When is the last time u stopped NY from winning any tournaments within the region. The last Koga I didn't go to u didn't even beat Dreamkiller as there was no GF's but Jaxel gave u the win anyway.

Something-Unique Track Record:

1. I have been consistent from start to present in this game placing 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th in SC4 except for like 3 tournaments. Not to mention this is my 1st SC game for those that forgot. That's saying alot as I had no veteran tournament experiece or any tournament experience for that matter in this game. My placing and respect is enhanced by the fact that tournament quality or quantity makes no difference as I place strong at majors, monthly's, locals, etc. regardless of quality or quantity in a consistent manner.

2. I have a winning individual record against everyone on that entire top 10 ranking list in tournaments and some MM's in combination with tournaments except RTD and Thuggish. Thuggish being the person who has the most wins on me and being the reason for me not winning or placing higher in tournaments such as Nationals or Internationals. He has been the one player who has stolen spots from me until recently when I have finally been able to start getting wins on him. RTD got the jump on me by a margin of one when he beat me at GU. Special nod to Ramon as well as I think he has a slight edge on me now not sure but he can't perform as well as me on a grand scale.

3. I have a 25-5 MM Record against all kinds of players both national and international. Lets not forget most of it was from challenges from people who thought they could beat me and failed. People don't even want to MM me anymore.

4. In my total time here and this being my first SC I managed to come in progress and still progress even now with a broken PS3 since Feb 2009 have no sufficient practice except for some spots in the year here and there and beat top competitors convincingly. A good example of that is me raping KDZ in tournaments overall (which by the way is getting worse for u KDZ 4-0 and 3-0 rings bells) and in MM's. My no slouch bracket against people at both Nats and Internationals. RTD, Alphamale, Ceirnian, Omega, Malek, JTO, Kayane Kero and the list keeps going as I can't remember all. Then other major people such as Dreamkiller. Thuggish Pond (Still better than me for the reasons stated above but now i'm managing to beat him in convincing fashion.

5. Of lesser importance (Casuals against people I played fro the first time that I wanted to play because I didn't in a tournament). I have played against damn near everyone in this game and I have a winning record on all except Linkrkc and Manta who i'm tied with. I beat Kura as well in a first to 10 the man who plays his people with passion and also the man who I wanted to play the most in this game and he is also who I think is the best in this game but is hindered by Talim regardless of how good he is.

6. In regards to teams for whatever this is worth I will use as a good example of my ability NEC10. Not many know this as I did not feel the need to brag but I OCV'ed every team I played against not losing until GF's against Linkrkc whom I OCV'ed his entire team earlier who had Ramon and yourself on it (running through u again lol). That means Thuggish didn't even have to go until GF's. Thats an example of carrying ur team till the end. I didn't see u carry anything through as u lost to thuggish on the smallest stage labyrinth with Hilde 0-3 round (with Hilde come on).

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This has nothing to do with my record but KDZ u need to stop. You are no Justin Wong of SC4 as ur tournament record has been stupid inconsistent and progressively getting worse. On anoher note I saw u mention in an interview on Youtube that u were the best in the nation in SC4. You shouldn't lie like that as its disrespectful to those who are better than u and in simple terms its false.

Last but not least since u have the nerve to continously disrespect ur userbase you are considered the weakest link for the team just in case u didn't notice. Hence the reason RTD, me, and Thuggish are so closely nit together on the matter. The reason is because u either do good or u massive fail no in between and others are getting progressively better while u get progressively worse.

Last but not least I thrashed and bashed u so many fucking times. Shut the fuck up u delusional mf. If u come at me be prepared to be shut down like what I did to Bibulus as well above. I'm very intelligent and the Ego that I have is easily backed up not delusional.
 
Hey question RTD, how did they pick the team members for the 2004 Cannes World tourney? Was it this much trouble and drama or was it some clear cut way they picked the team members?
 
This is becoming my favourite soap opera. Not to mention a little uneasy about donating...

I didn't donate specifically for this reason.

If you even considered to attend something like this, you damn well better have your money straight. It's not like this tourney fell out of the sky, piss-poor planning on your side doesn't make it neccessary to donate money from mine.
 
Hey question RTD, how did they pick the team members for the 2004 Cannes World tourney? Was it this much trouble and drama or was it some clear cut way they picked the team members?

The community basically discussed the top players and the site admin, who was WCMaxi at that time, put his foot down to make the final selections. He also picked a team captain, handled the fund raising, and managed the process at a high level.

That's the type of person that we are missing here, hence the choas...
 
Well the team that i would chose would be,

RTD
Alpha male if he could make it
thugish
something unike
dream killer
Brian hates with a little more practice from some chars

I know from experience the damage this players can do in a tournament and outside, this is my humble opinion.
 
I'm not going to make any comments about player choices... whoever the community decides to send to Cannes, I will be okay with. I would make final judgment on a team, but too many people are wishy-washy on whether or not they can actually make it. However, since I am handling the donations, I guess I must make some comments on that.

I have already explained in the other thread exactly how I will be distributing the donation funds. NO ONE will be receiving full reimbursement for their plane ticket to Cannes. The money will be split by PERCENTAGE, based on the total cost of tickets, and the total donation amount. It is each player's responsibility to buy their own tickets. Reimbursements will be made close to, or after Cannes. If a player waits too long to buy their tickets, thus raising the cost of their plane ticket to an outrageous amount, they will be reimbursed at a lower percentage than others who prepared in advance. End of story.

If someone doesn't want to be reimbursed, and would rather their portion go to someone else, that would be okay too.

Buy your tickets from www.kayak.com
 
I really have no business here except for fan morale- but how can Oof or Vints be part of team USA if they're from Canada? doesn't add up to me.

With that said, how can there be Canadian teams in the National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League? This is an outrage! :o
 
I didn't donate specifically for this reason.

If you even considered to attend something like this, you damn well better have your money straight. It's not like this tourney fell out of the sky, piss-poor planning on your side doesn't make it neccessary to donate money from mine.

This right here is the wrong attitude to have. France is expensive. And not everyone is a responsible adult, so assistance is needed. If we all felt this way, then we wouldn't have a team to send there.
 
if this falls apart can i get a refund for my donation? seriously you all need to get your shit together and get this going before you run out of time
 
Team USA is not falling apart. There's just some disagreements.

The only issue left is Manta. If he can't make it, then open up the discussion between Esom and Bibulus and come to a decision so that we can put all this drama behind and move on.
 
Ahaha! RTD got mad that I questioned him over Ceirnian. But man, you shouldnt get so maaaaaaaad bro, Is it so wrong to question it when the record is him over you in every result but the first, TIT?

Also, JTO over me? Aahaahhhhahha!¡!¡!
All this proves is that you have a sense of humor. Not only is the man a shell of his former self, but a better Cass than me? Lets get a lot of facts straight:

1. My maxi lost to Kayane at nats, because among others YOU coached her!!! You don't have America's best interest in mind at ALL, when are people gonna realize this?
2. I got 9th at haha intertationals starting in losers under oofmatics name, going through multiple people INCLUDING 2-0ing Malek. Guess you somehow won by avoiding me, who "struggled to win rounds against" at Evo, and because a GOOD MAJORITY of the MAJOR NAMES couldnt attend due to how terrible Nats was... planned. Ceirnian, Link, Alphamale, the list goes on and on.
3. Calling me a fluke? Look carefully at the results. I won almost every SC4 tournament I attended until March, when SF4 came out. I switched my focus, lost some locals with the thought that it wouldnt be held against me and that we're all friends anyhow, obv I was wrong. When a large major approached, WCG, I once again focused on SC4 and won it. Focus back to SF4 until the next one, EVO. Focus on SC4 and get second, winning in ALPHAMALE, KAYANE, and SAITOHs bracket. Cue back to SF4, full focus on it until the next real major, France.

Since I have just entered the world of Top Players in SF4 in less than a year, I would say the decision was well made. But just like before, I have once again started practicing SC4 for the upcoming event. Thisll be my first test of my SF+SC ability at a major.

Calling me a fluke is arrogance on both of your behalfs, one traitor and one fuck up who cant get his money in order. Do you know who I helped in the Nats finals? Not the Korean, but the American, thuggish.

America.
 
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