Tiamat
[11] Champion
the problem is that GS B on ground hit they can tech a million miles away so unless there is a wall nearby you get no mixup. GS KK is only guaranteed after 1A6, not simple 1A so keep that in mind.
Strategy/Playstyle Discussion + general Q&A
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Schneider-X
[11] Champion
Haha I've done it Tiamat. I've found a GUARANTEED way to land 4A+B.
FC B+G, w! 4A+B
It works similar to the 2[K] wall traps, if they press G they'll get launched, also if they get launched from the wall you can gain a free SC from A+B since they will be out of range of a BT B+K.
Its so manly :P
FC B+G, w! 4A+B
It works similar to the 2[K] wall traps, if they press G they'll get launched, also if they get launched from the wall you can gain a free SC from A+B since they will be out of range of a BT B+K.
Its so manly :P
Tiamat
[11] Champion
hottttt. will try that.
LGInfinite
[09] Warrior
Now that is pretty cool.
FenrisZero
[13] Hero
Thanks GynormousFish and Tiamat. Is there anything guaranteed after 1A?
Dullyanna
[10] Knight
Nothing after 1A, I think. After 1A[6], however, GS KK is guaranteed.
FenrisZero
[13] Hero
Bummer. Thanks for the info.
Schneider-X
[11] Champion
After 1A or 1[A] I don't think there are any follow-ups for those, or techtraps. Since their unable to tech afterwards.
GynormousFish
[09] Warrior
Yeah, theres no real reason to use 1A over 1A6 unless you are using it for mixups and your opponent expects you to use 1A6 GS KK and you hit them with something different. But that probably wouldn't be a good idea in the first place.
microgamer
[10] Knight
I think one rare instance where 1A was better over 1A6 was when it was NM vs Yoshi...Yoshi kept punishing 1A6 with FC 3K. Then NM did a plain 1A, Yoshi did FC 3K-- which was blocked, then NM punished that for the win. I remember seeing it in a vid somewhere, neorussell might've been the Yoshi. But yeah, that's a rare case, just thought I'd mention it.
Tiamat
[11] Champion
yeah that's one of the times you can use it for sure. also, 1A doesn't guarantee anything but the knockdown itself is very strong if it hits.
PANDA
[13] Hero
gosh i need to stop falling for your 1[A], 1A Tiamat lol -.-
Tiamat
[11] Champion
online tactics are stupid man. =[
FenrisZero
[13] Hero
Is 2[K] even useful, if it is how should I use it? Or should I stick with 1k as my low kick?
Schneider-X
[11] Champion
Check out Tiamat's stickied Nightmare guide for wall traps and where you can use 2[K]
Its useful during those situations because if the opponent stands up or presses G at all, they won't be able to jump the 2[K], leading to another wallsplat, which can lead to another 2[K]. This leads to fun times at the wall with Nightmare.
Its useful during those situations because if the opponent stands up or presses G at all, they won't be able to jump the 2[K], leading to another wallsplat, which can lead to another 2[K]. This leads to fun times at the wall with Nightmare.
PANDA
[13] Hero
use 2[K] as if you were to use Asty's 4[A+B]
(if you ever use his 4[A+B] that is...)
i think 2[K] is just a tiny bit faster than 4[A+B], but you could use it in the same situation/scenario against your opponent.
personally, i use it after the opponent gets up.
after you 2[K] you could follow up 2A+B, GS KK, etc....
Tiamat
[11] Champion
The problem is if they jump attack it on reaction it doesn't matter if you release it early or not. Unless it's a wall setup the move is crap. If it's used from wallsplat it's godly though.
Dullyanna
[10] Knight
4[A+B] has range, too. They can jump away from it, but they still often take damage.
Tiamat
[11] Champion
I tried schneider's FC B+G (w) 4A+B trap and it is guaranteed ground hit, and launches if they press G
damage is pretty lame but can try it anyway to be flashy.
damage is pretty lame but can try it anyway to be flashy.
Anbumee
[08] Mercenary
66B is really good as well. One of my fav moves. A nice follow up would be GS to B+K. Does about 63 damage if you do B+K just when they hit the ground. Also GS B works as well