[Toronto] The Race to 10,000 Mountain

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neorussell said:
I feel that Namco was lazy with those characters if they are only mimics of male and females.
The worst thing they've done is not bring back Talim. The only filipina fighter and she got taken out.
I'm not satisfied if they are full mimics. Not happy at all.
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In the case of the extra mimic characters, I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the developers of being lazy. As we know the "higher-ups" give the developers time constraints, which in many cases affects the final product because the developers simply don't have the time to put everything that they want into the game.

If you look at the artwork for Kilik and Elysium, you can see that Kilik is holding his bo staff, and Elysium has a shield and what appears to be a sword in her other hand off-screen. This shows that the character designer who drew them obviously intended for them to have a style with those weapons, and not have something like Kilik wielding nunchucks or Elysium with a ring blade and acting bi-polar.

So what could have happened is that they simply didn't have the time to complete original movesets for these "boss" characters due to the time constraints that the higher-up businessmen enforced on them. And they probably didn't want to completely scrap these characters due to story reasons, so they could have taken an alternative route of giving them the "classic SC boss" treatment of making them mimics.

So rather than calling the hardworking developers lazy for this, I'd lay the blame on the money hungry higher-ups.

As for the missing characters like Talim, Zas, Yun, etc, at NEC Daishi stated that he would like to go the Capcom route of releasing an updated version of the game in a year or more. The reason is because it's more cost effective for them than simply DLC and patches, and also because it will allow them to put things into the game that they previously couldn't due to the time constraints. So I would expect to see at least Talim and Zas in the next version if not DLC. Not to mention that holding off characters like Talim and Zas for that version will give people a reason to be more hyped for that version when it comes out, allowing for better sales.

Russell, have you looked into getting the pre-release party or the Feb 4th tournament, or both, on the 8WR.com front page and on the official SC facebook page? The more exposure we can get the higher chances we have at getting new players to come out. Especially considering that the official SC facebook page has well over 172,000 followers.
 
franman said:
I'm not sure if you notice but Russell was the one (hence the italics) who gave us the deal of pre-ordering SC5 for us. And I imagine for such a businessman like him if he can pull off a deal to include Dampierre DLC.

But nonetheless this is in regards/response to OOF's situation... for me I could careless about Dampierre. I just want to receive the game early. Reason I've asked is out of curiosity.
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Sound is good. Just get what you want. Just like Eli buy from EB games because of Bobble Ivy. lol....
I bought from Bestbuy.
If it is unlock, OOFMATIC, Eli and Franman will be happy.
If it is DLC, I will be happy. =D He.he...
 
Only Best Buy CE's can get Dampierre. My supplier has confirmed that there are no other bonus exclusive.
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I'd rather those slots be empty rather than waste my time with mimic characters.
I can understand having them in for story's sake but I still find it lazy on namco's end if they are mimics.

If we get SCV: Soul Edition in a year then that's fine but they shouldn't waste our time with 3 mimic characters when one is clearly enough.

They said it will be up a few days before. I'll bug them next week when it makes more sense.
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The only difference with Pre-Ordering with me is that you get it the day before.
If people can't wait or just don't want to leave their house and make it an SCV day, then it's ideal to have purchase the game through me.

I DO NOT make profit out of the pre-orders. In fact, with Pizza, it will cost me more but it's a celebration and people need to eat. I'm in the business of making things easier for people.

NeoRussell
 
Russell I totally agree with your opinions except that I agree with OOF's opinion about the developers not being lazy.

BLAME ON THE MARKETERS!

So I guess I take it that the rumour was true then... that means I was right when I've stated in the General Roster Speculation Thread that I've felt SC5 was gonna be rushed. So much for casual players delivering their pretty posts against me and receiving likes.

TBH I think by the time they announce the third roster (Xiba, Cervantes, Yoshimitsu) that should be it... that's where I think they should make their stop and focus on balancing on all characters.
 
Ah, after seeing more of Alpha Patroklos from today's vid... I feel better. Shame that Setsuka is out, but I guess I could always make a CAS similar to her. No more "Give up and die!" and "Wither and die!".

Now I must prepare for... "1, 2, JUSTICE!"

I doubt he can do any of the umbrella moves like Setsuka, but I can see that Alpha Patroklos has some of her Just Frames (1B:B) and certain kick moves like 2B+K.

My condolences to Zas and Talim players.
 
Runic_Wolf said:
Ah, after seeing more of Alpha Patroklos from today's vid... I feel better. Shame that Setsuka is out, but I guess I could always make a CAS similar to her. No more "Give up and die!" and "Wither and die!".

Now I must prepare for... "1, 2, JUSTICE!"

I doubt he can do any of the umbrella moves like Setsuka, but I can see that Alpha Patroklos has some of her Just Frames (1B:B) and certain kick moves like 2B+K.

My condolences to Zas and Talim players.
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*sniff* thank you.
 
THIS ISNT SOUL CALIBUR V... its more like SC3.5... i dont know about the rest of you but im fucking pissed, it didnt hit me until after i saw this vid. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens/sc5devil.htm.

I can handle:
a weak roster
mimc/clone characters...[seriously kilik, edgemaster, AND elys whatever are all MIMICS]

i was not pissed of when i realized that Viola has the same stance as tekken6 Zafinna only with a orb.
HELL I respect SC3 TOO MUCH to compare to this crap. i cant even compare it with this in terms of quality, this games not out yet and the shit im seeing just tells me its a rental not a buy.

I can handle:
the crappy collectors editon i thought i was going to buy[not wasting my money]
the fact that this game is for the noobscalibur players

I CANT HANDLE THE FACT THAT THEY DIDNT EVEN TRY FOR THIS GAME RECYCLING GARBAGE, more importantly putting TEKKEN CLONES INTO A SOUL CALIBUR, youll probably thinking cool idea just like me BUT, FUCK NO ITS NOT. WHEN HALF OF THE ROSTER IS EQUAL TO RYU AND EVIL RYU, KEN AND EVIL KEN is namco FUCKING SERIOUS LMFAO
LAZY NAMCO FUCKING LAZY
im probably always the first one to rant and rage but am i the only one thats not ok with this.
im still buy the game but FUCKING for real.. THIS GAME SCREAMS RUSHED OUT.they didnt care NAMCO didnt care. IM FUCKING DISAPPOINTED
 
DustbusterGF said:
THIS ISNT SOUL CALIBUR V... its more like SC3.5... i dont know about the rest of you but im fucking pissed, it didnt hit me until after i saw this vid. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens/sc5devil.htm.

I can handle:
a weak roster
mimc/clone characters...[seriously kilik, edgemaster, AND elys whatever are all MIMICS]

i was not pissed of when i realized that Viola has the same stance as tekken6 Zafinna only with a orb.
HELL I respect SC3 TOO MUCH to compare to this crap. i cant even compare it with this in terms of quality, this games not out yet and the shit im seeing just tells me its a rental not a buy.

I can handle:
the crappy collectors editon i thought i was going to buy[not wasting my money]
the fact that this game is for the noobscalibur players

I CANT HANDLE THE FACT THAT THEY DIDNT EVEN TRY FOR THIS GAME RECYCLING GARBAGE, more importantly putting TEKKEN CLONES INTO A SOUL CALIBUR, youll probably thinking cool idea just like me BUT, FUCK NO ITS NOT. WHEN HALF OF THE ROSTER IS EQUAL TO RYU AND EVIL RYU, KEN AND EVIL KEN is namco FUCKING SERIOUS LMFAO
LAZY NAMCO FUCKING LAZY
im probably always the first one to rant and rage but am i the only one thats not ok with this.
im still buy the game but FUCKING for real.. THIS GAME SCREAMS RUSHED OUT.they didnt care NAMCO didnt care. IM FUCKING DISAPPOINTED
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I`m not gonna lie........ that devil jin clone looked really lame.
 
DustbusterGF said:
THIS ISNT SOUL CALIBUR V... its more like SC3.5... i dont know about the rest of you but im fucking pissed, it didnt hit me until after i saw this vid. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens/sc5devil.htm.

I can handle:
a weak roster
mimc/clone characters...[seriously kilik, edgemaster, AND elys whatever are all MIMICS]

i was not pissed of when i realized that Viola has the same stance as tekken6 Zafinna only with a orb.
HELL I respect SC3 TOO MUCH to compare to this crap. i cant even compare it with this in terms of quality, this games not out yet and the shit im seeing just tells me its a rental not a buy.

I can handle:
the crappy collectors editon i thought i was going to buy[not wasting my money]
the fact that this game is for the noobscalibur players

I CANT HANDLE THE FACT THAT THEY DIDNT EVEN TRY FOR THIS GAME RECYCLING GARBAGE, more importantly putting TEKKEN CLONES INTO A SOUL CALIBUR, youll probably thinking cool idea just like me BUT, FUCK NO ITS NOT. WHEN HALF OF THE ROSTER IS EQUAL TO RYU AND EVIL RYU, KEN AND EVIL KEN is namco FUCKING SERIOUS LMFAO
LAZY NAMCO FUCKING LAZY
im probably always the first one to rant and rage but am i the only one thats not ok with this.
im still buy the game but FUCKING for real.. THIS GAME SCREAMS RUSHED OUT.they didnt care NAMCO didnt care. IM FUCKING DISAPPOINTED
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I`m not gonna lie........ that devil jin clone looked really lame.
 
DustbusterGF said:
THIS ISNT SOUL CALIBUR V... its more like SC3.5... i dont know about the rest of you but im fucking pissed, it didnt hit me until after i saw this vid. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens/sc5devil.htm.

I can handle:
a weak roster
mimc/clone characters...[seriously kilik, edgemaster, AND elys whatever are all MIMICS]

i was not pissed of when i realized that Viola has the same stance as tekken6 Zafinna only with a orb.
HELL I respect SC3 TOO MUCH to compare to this crap. i cant even compare it with this in terms of quality, this games not out yet and the shit im seeing just tells me its a rental not a buy.

I can handle:
the crappy collectors editon i thought i was going to buy[not wasting my money]
the fact that this game is for the noobscalibur players

I CANT HANDLE THE FACT THAT THEY DIDNT EVEN TRY FOR THIS GAME RECYCLING GARBAGE, more importantly putting TEKKEN CLONES INTO A SOUL CALIBUR, youll probably thinking cool idea just like me BUT, FUCK NO ITS NOT. WHEN HALF OF THE ROSTER IS EQUAL TO RYU AND EVIL RYU, KEN AND EVIL KEN is namco FUCKING SERIOUS LMFAO
LAZY NAMCO FUCKING LAZY
im probably always the first one to rant and rage but am i the only one thats not ok with this.
im still buy the game but FUCKING for real.. THIS GAME SCREAMS RUSHED OUT.they didnt care NAMCO didnt care. IM FUCKING DISAPPOINTED
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trust me when i tell you this..... IF NAMCO MADE ME WAIT ONE WHOLE MONTH TO REVIEL THESE SPECIAL SUPER SECRET CHARACTERS... THAT ARE NOTHING BUT MIMIC CHARACTERS..... I'M GOING

TO GO DOWN THE STREET...

AND PUNCH THE FIST

CUTE FKEN BABY

I SEE IN THE FACE!!! (srs)






100% srs

beleive me your not the only one ragging here.... this BETTER BE a fken good internet joke!
 
Funny there no Olcadan. And 3 mimic characters is just lazy.

I am disappointed that they used the pat/pyra models for Setsuka/cass&soph hybrid, again its just lazy.

So it look like Namco didn't have enough time

The 3 mimic charter will be ban from tournaments because of hit box issues. As for Alpha Pat and Omega Pyrrha they're tournaments legal.
 
For the record the Pyrrha Omega char is like 0.2% Cass and even more Soph than regular Pyrrha.

:/

/salt

I'm still crazy excited for the game though. It's just a shame the last reveals were kinda empty.
 
Okay, so I posted my rage on the Soul Calibur facebook page. Even declared that I was boycotting the game. I'm actually still going to get it and play it obviously, but I WANT them to know how stupid they are and to make them THINK that they are losing their fans for making such stupid decisions. I'm pretty disappointed.
 
Damn. I'm confused.
Can anyone confirm that?
Is Kilik a MALE character only mimic?
Is Elysium a FEMALE characters only mimic?
So Edge master is a ALL characters mimic?
 
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