Prejudice k-pop songwriter "Jenny Hyun" sparks controversy

[coolfighter1993]

I was playing HON while posting this I went back and edited it after I finished winning=P
Artesia is a bawse

PS Don't refute anything I say just insult. That makes you're point seem incredibly valid

Come back to me when you pass a high school history class

I haven't said anything about the history of Africa.

 

[WARUI_NE]

German lead Herero and Namaqua genocide

I admit I haven't researched this one much so ill just assume you are right about this one

Congo Free State

I agree horrible but it really doesn't tie into it being a white persons fault congo is so awful today. Congo is in a horrible state because of king leopold leaving actually. When the strong leader left the warlords had nothing to fear and began fighting over the shithole... The warlords run the entire goddamn country.

Belgium creating formal class divisions in Rwanda and Burundi, making an oppressed Hutu class, further stratifying the classes and increasing tensions between the two classes.

only true morons would embrace a title given by their oppressors therefore both of them fail through extreme retardation.

Eliminating the tribal systems and putting rival tribes in the same area, creating social problems.

In america do texans fight rhode islanders when they come to dallas? no? They fight because they are uncivilized

Eliminating the self-sufficient economic practices and replacing them with colonial friendly economic practices that benefitted Europeans at the expense of Africans (the same thing happened in India).

Because people like robert mugabe are the ones you support running african economies yeah? They'd be better off with a more european economy then a madman who intentionally destroys the economy for his own personal vengance

Creating generally oppressive governments designed around racial and class supremacy (South Africa, which you apparently think is a shining example of what happens when Africans don't run a country, is just a society with an affluent white and Indian population that partially hides the problems it has).

Its a hellava lot safer then seira leone, Sudan, niger, Congo, and ivory coast

Shockingly slavery

That had no effect at all on their culture except maybe liberia which is a nation for freed slaves...and even then its one of the more modern and better African countries.

Apartheid

While I don't agree with it, apartheid had a goal. Because whites are the minority and were being persecuted it was for their protection. Like I said it for a good cause but it was a horrible, horrible, horrible misguided solution.

But hey at least I know you are informed. Our opinions may differ but I respect someone who disagrees with me and knows stuff a lot more then someone who just parrots me. Kinda like this kid:

I haven't said anything about the history of Africa.

Apparently you haven't said anything useful at all. Either because you lack any understanding of complex topics or you are just too dumb to understand whats going on.
(probably a little of both).
You contribute non sequitors and expect us to take you seriously?

 

[coolfighter1993]

Apparently you haven't said anything useful at all. Either because you lack any understanding of complex topics or you are just too dumb to understand whats going on.
(probably a little of both).
You contribute non sequitors and expect us to take you seriously?

Was there any need to insult me?

Go back to school and improve your grammar.

 

[XxRainism]

You both are off topic for starters.. Just thought i'd share that.

 

[Ghengis_John]

Sorry bro, but you couldn't be more wrong. At the time of the roman empire Ethiopia was considered one of the four great powers in the world.

This is actually what an Ethiopian building from that era looked like:

Not too different from roman architecture actually.

I mean so that was THEN right? What's the place look like NOW? I mean it's AFRICA! It's gotta be a shithole right?

Well look at that. I mean it actually looks alright. But how did that ever happen? A country full of black people, from multiple ethnicities and religions and somehow it's not tearing itself apart? Well how did that ever happen?

During the Scramble for Africa, Ethiopia was the only African country beside Liberia that retained its sovereignty as a recognized independent country, and was one of only four African members of the League of Nations.

Well I'll be damned. Look at that? It looks like there might be some truth to the claims that colonialism actually damaged africa.

Its the oldest civilization and the farthest behind

I dunno. This shot from Addis Abbis doesn't look as snazzy as Seoul or anything but there are probably worse places. Let's take a shot from detroit for comparison:
ETHOPIA:

USA USA USA:

inb4 a bunch of retards call me racist for stating facts

What's worse than your ignorance is your obstinance. You're actually smug about being an idiot.

as for my opinion I think we'd be better off without the continent (PROVE ME WRONG)

The sheer mineralogical wealth of Africa precludes the convenience of it's existence. The bulk of the world's platinum comes from africa and the place is chalk full of uranium. If you like your technology to remain cheap you can put up with africa's continued existence for the duration of your life time.

 

[XxRainism]

This image is in total contradictory to my last post but, I couldn't resist

 

[UnseenWombat]

Sorry bro, but you couldn't be more wrong. At the time of the roman empire Ethiopia was considered one of the four great powers in the world.

Did I not mention kush?

I was referring to the vast majority of the rest of the continent, full of backwards tribespeople that never progressed past sticks and stones until europeans brought them out of caveman days.

 

[The Landslide]

My God, the ineptitude in this thread is shameful.

 

[WARUI_NE]

Wow john you are very convincing you compared the worst part of america to to best part of africa *slow clap*
Russia hold more resourses then any country in africa

smug about being ignorant? More like being smug about being right. Couldnt address any of my points with historical perspective so you resort to insulting.
I'm pretty sure if you even compared africa to america, you'd get laughed at by most americans
the only one who has even made a point is hotx

 

[Madnis]

arguements are not won by the people who are right. they're won by those who present their case better.
I say, go for the jugular.

at least make this shit entertaining to read.

 

[Ghengis_John]

Did I not mention kush?

Different region, different time. Kush era ends 650 BC. Ancient egypt times. Bronze age. 150 years before the founding of the republic, 600 before the Empire. Nice try though.

smug about being ignorant? More like being smug about being right. Couldnt address any of my points with historical perspective so you resort to insulting.

That entire post was historical perspective. It's inconvenient for your self image to admit you're wrong about anything ever, I understand. You just have to be stubborn. Just know the vast majority of people in the room are going to be looking at you the way you look at this guy:

Apparently you haven't said anything useful at all. Either because you lack any understanding of complex topics or you are just too dumb to understand whats going on.

I see you're a saint yourself.

Russia hold more resourses then any country in africa

Yes, well thanks for that useless and unsolicited tidbit. Russia has so many resources it's not like they'ed ever need to secure african supplies. What? They are? Oh no!? Woops!
http://blog.jaluo.com/?p=12277

So anyways, maybe they do have a lot of resources, but for that matter so do a lot of other countries. The fact of the matter is you are wasting my time by bringing that shit up because it has nothing to do with anything. Spare me your mental farts. I never said "they have more resources than anyone" did I? I said "if you want your prices to remain low" didn't I? So why the hell do you bring up a pointless non sequitur like that? Even the Russians will tell you the African sources are cheaper to exploit.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/12/16/36991893.html

That's all besides the point that the more available supply you have the better for prices. I thought you knew something about economics. I'm disappointed. Here maybe this will help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

So this seems relevant right about now:

Apparently you haven't said anything useful at all. Either because you lack any understanding of complex topics or you are just too dumb to understand whats going on.

Stop wasting my fucking time, Warui.

Wow john you are very convincing you compared the worst part of america to to best part of africa *slow clap*

You said the entire continent and it's civilizations were "farthest behind" the rest of the world. I proved you wrong. Apparently your clap isn't the only thing about you that's slow. Don't like the comparison? Too bad. It's the comparison that you invited. There are parts of Africa that are nicer than even parts of America and that's a fact. You can not refute that can you? Can you? "There are worse parts of africa" You may be thinking as you clutch for a straw, but your argument was that:

Africa as continent its a shithole

Well it's not all a shithole, for example in a place that was never subject to colonialism. And we have our own shitholes. So don't stick your nose too high in the air.

And by the way. You. Were. Wrong. Deal with it. "Slow clap"? Brilliant come back. That's just bravado for a teary eyed refusal to admit you just got your ass handed to you. I might let you go, but you're trying to defend your racism as logic. You're ridiculous. The majority of Americans would not laugh at you, they would find you appalling.

did Europeans take all the smart people?

I seem to have found a place that kept a few. What I'd love to know is how do you reconcile this kind of comment as not being racist?

the only one who has even made a point is hotx

God knows you haven't. You did not make one point in your response to me at all. You just sort of fretted and complained and sidestepped while trying to puff up your chest. Unintimidated.

 

[WuHT]

USA USA USA:

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You choose the 1 picture with the black bum.

Gotta diversify

 

[UnseenWombat]

Different region, different time. Kush era ends 650 BC. Ancient egypt times. Bronze age. 150 years before the founding of the republic, 600 before the Empire. Nice try though

First of all, chill out man. We're not even into election season yet. You're gonna wear yourself out.

Secondly, whatever, close enough. How about I rewrite it like this: "Aside from Carthage, several various civilizations up and down the Nile river, and the parts of north Africa overrun by Muslims in the first millennium, Africa has not contributed one bit to human civilization." Is that better for you?

Thirdly, aside from forgetting to include one civilization in my list of exceptions, what you said about Ethiopia reinforces my point. Regardless of colonialism and slavery and everything the grade school teachers tell us were bad bad things, the parts of Africa that were useful and kept up with the times in antiquity have continued to do so, and the parts that were full of spear-chucking savages that just wanted to kill one another because one group has a different goofy name than the other's goofy name, have continued in their backwardsness. Except now instead of spears they have machine guns and RPG's.

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[Madnis]

read all that?

that's goin for the jugular. why you killin em like that?! shuttin down his ignorant shit, see that? that's how you win an argument. it's not without flaws but damn.. presented his case and insulted you at the same time warui... keep to your name sake. say that shit and be off in the night, boy. ya done!

question tho..

why or more importantly, how the fuck is any of this relevant?

 

[The Landslide]

The Cism.

 

[Synraii]

Total derailment that didn't invole me? This is a bad omen...

 

[coolfighter1993]

Lots of racism in this thread...

Winner= Ghengis_John

 

[PSN-iiDRiiS]

I'm Black, but I'm American should I care about Africa?

@Ghengis:

 

[WARUI_NE]

Lol john half of my points went over your head
Yeah you are right my clap wasn't the only thing thats slow
My point about russia wasnt random at all you said stuff about africa and platnuim im sorry you cant extrapolate enough to realize this how about you stop wasting my time
ps keep qqong about racisim when I even said black people in the develouped world are fine. Last time I checked speaking out against a culture isnt racist. I guess you hate white people becase you hate redneck trailer trashes culture IE THE KKK. Maybe you should grasp straws harder so retards like coolfighter think you are right

 

[Ghengis_John]

Thirdly, aside from forgetting to include one civilization in my list of exceptions, what you said about Ethiopia reinforces my point. Regardless of colonialism and slavery and everything the grade school teachers tell us were bad bad things, the parts of Africa that were useful and kept up with the times in antiquity have continued to do so, and the parts that were full of spear-chucking savages that just wanted to kill one another because one group has a different goofy name than the other's goofy name, have continued in their backwardsness. Except now instead of spears they have machine guns and RPG's.

Wombat, I wish I could tell you that people in civilized, developed countries never kill each other over silly things like ethnic differences.

It's rare that people suddenly decide to kill each other over who's name is goofier. It usually takes some kind of societal pressure to get that ball rolling. In Germany's case for instance it was severe economic depression, in Africa's it's a fifty year long drought. People are the same all over.

Secondly, whatever, close enough. How about I rewrite it like this: "Aside from Carthage, several various civilizations up and down the Nile river, and the parts of north Africa overrun by Muslims in the first millennium, Africa has not contributed one bit to human civilization." Is that better for you?

I don't know, because for one thing, civilizations formed all over africa far away from the nile river. For example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe
The thing about technological development is that all people will attain or abandon it, if the circumstances are right. I would suggest if you're going to argue Africa is "backwards" because of the mentality of the Africans themselves that you crack open a copy of Guns, Germs and Steel.

Last time I checked speaking out against a culture isnt racist.

"A culture"? And there in lies your problem. I will repeat my last point to Wombat to you. Go check out a copy of Guns Germs and Steel from your local library or heck just buy one on-line. It seems like it would do you a world of good. You can not refute a single one of my points, you can only qq how I don't get you and how you're wasting your time and how everyone must be a retard but you. We're done here. You lose. Go educate your ignorant ass and get back to me when you've finished your book.