SCV Tier List

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Signia said:
My current view of the balance, in order:

S Tier:
aPat

A Tier:
Natsu
Pyrrha
Cervantes
Algol
Pyrrha Omega

B Tier:
Astaroth
Mitsurugi
Xiba
Hilde
Devil Jin

C Tier:
Viola
Yoshimitsu
Nightmare
Maxi

D Tier
Voldo
Patroklos
Leixia
Ivy

E Tier:
Siegfried
Raphael
Ezio
Dampierre
Aeon

I don't know where to put:
Tira (heard she was good, C tier or maybe even B tier?
ZWEI (has potential but is also kinda gimmicky, D or E tier)

Tiers that are next each other are hard to distinguish in terms of character of strength, and the jump between each tier is minimal. The game is pretty balanced, except for aPat who is a slight cut above the rest.
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Really Rapahel is low tier? Do you have evidence to prove that or did you just pull that out of your ass. He's way better.
 
MrTheGamer said:
Really Rapahel is low tier? Do you have evidence to prove that or did you just pull that out of your ass. He's way better.
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Well yes, I did just make this up, this my list as of two weeks after release.

I still say Raph is low tier, though. Low damage output, horrible at controlling step, and his frames are even worse than they were in SCIV. His strengths are poking and guard damage, but he has weak post-guard crush damage and many characters can equalize taking 3-4 of his pokes with just one read. I especially think he's worthless because even to players whose style favors spacing and poking, there are characters who do it better than Raph, like Hilde and Mitsu.

Just try playing Mitsu like you'd play Raph, let me know how you do. Use 6B, 6B2, 6B8, 6A, 4A, 22B, 22A. That move list alone and you'll be zoning better than Raph. And he has his insane mixup game on top of that. That's basically why I quit Raph...
 
if i had to list them in this order it might be like this. subject to change as we learn more. order within tiers doesnt matter, i just put them in w/e order i thought of them first.

S Tier: God Tier/Broken/Pick if u want to win
N/A

A Tier: Best Characters
α Pat
Mitsurugi
Pyrrha
Leixia
Cervantes

B Tier: Great Characters
Natsu
Xiba
Pyrrha Ω
Hilde
Maxi
Astaroth
Voldo
Patroklos

C Tier: Good Characters/Need to work a little to win
Algol
Ivy
Tira
Viola
Yoshimitsu
Nightmare
Siegfried
Raphael
Ezio
Dampierre

D Tier: Bad Characters/Need to work a lot to win
Aeon, ZWEI

E Tier: Garbage Tier/Dont bother/Pick if u want to lose
N/A
 
algol could be high, but for sure aeon its not....
And raph and ezio are low also.

I think with time viola and zwei will go up and xiba will go down suffering JG a lot.
 
darkfender said:
algol could be high, but for sure aeon its not....
And raph and ezio are low also.

I think with time viola and zwei will go up and xiba will go down suffering JG a lot.
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I think Viola's going to stay pretty comfy where she is. I main her, and she's solid, don't get me wrong. But low-health damage scaling gets her killed SO often, and her step killers aren't as useful as they need to be. A good Viola can kill whomever she wants, but it's too uphill to raise her out of middle tier.
 
Signia said:
Well yes, I did just make this up, this my list as of two weeks after release.

I still say Raph is low tier, though. Low damage output, horrible at controlling step, and his frames are even worse than they were in SCIV. His strengths are poking and guard damage, but he has weak post-guard crush damage and many characters can equalize taking 3-4 of his pokes with just one read. I especially think he's worthless because even to players whose style favors spacing and poking, there are characters who do it better than Raph, like Hilde and Mitsu.

Just try playing Mitsu like you'd play Raph, let me know how you do. Use 6B, 6B2, 6B8, 6A, 4A, 22B, 22A. That move list alone and you'll be zoning better than Raph. And he has his insane mixup game on top of that. That's basically why I quit Raph...
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I know man but from what I have seen even after all of his shortcomings he has a lot of upgrades in SCV that make up for that. I think that Raphael is at least middle tier and that's just my opinion. He has way better spacing and poking options then Mitsu and Hilde in my opinion. If an official tier list was ever made I'm willing to bet you that he will be in the middle maybe a little lower. I see Raphael doing well in tournaments with his new arsenal of tools but I have yet to see any good Raph players in SCV. I don't own the game yet but I have watched videos.
 
Xephukai's Tier List (Beginning Analysis);


S-Tier;
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A-Tier;
Alpha Patroklos
Mitsurugi
Natsu
Pyrrha

B-Tier;
Cervantes
Astaroth
Omega Pyrrha
Patroklos
Hilde
Leixia
Xiba
Tira
Algol
Voldo

C-Tier;
Maxi
Nightmare
Viola
Yoshimitsu
Ivy
Ezio

D-Tier;
ZWEI
Raphael
Aeon
Siegfried

UNKNOWN-TIER;
Dampierre
Devil Jin

Edit;
Also, personal opinion, everyone is fairly close. give or take a few. Of course, this is the beginning, so it's impossible to tell the tier lists.
 
Here's my personal opinion on tiers in SCV, so far. In order, more or less.

S: Alpha Patroklos, Natsu, Pyrrah Omega

A: Astaroth, Leixia, Patroklos, Mitsurugi, Xiba, Cervantes, Pyrrah, Viola

B: Ivy, Tira, Nightmare, Hilde, Raphael, Ezio, Yoshimitsu, Viola

C: Algol, Siegfried, Maxi, ZWEI

D: Aeon, Dampierre
 
Synraii said:
Astaroth is not what he was in SCIV by a long shot. No way he's high.
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You're right, Astaroth isn't exactly the same from SCIV. In my opinion, being someone who's mained SCIV Astaroth (at a point) and someone who mains him now, he's better. The engine in SCV favors his playstyle. Being able actually kill step (compared to SCIV/Step-G) amplifies Astaroth's spacing game. In IV, he was grabs, RO's, and gimmick spacing. Now, he has the tools, and frames, to turn his gimmick game (IV) into valid set-ups/spacing. His Ringout game is better than IV. His grab game is leagues better. As I pointed out before, the damage in V compared to IV (engine) makes him even scarier. His wall combos are better, his frames have improved (to an extent). His guard game is incredible, and easily implemented.

I don't see how IV Astaroth is better than V Astaroth. However, this is aside the point. The SCV tier list isn't a comparison from IV to V. It's a comparison from the characters in V, and only V. Being better or worse in IV has no relation to his tier placement in SCV.

Also, I could be wrong about Astaroth and Cervantes' placement. It's an opinionated tier list, much more knowledgeable than others I'll add, but opinionated none the less. It's a month and a half into the game, what makes you think Cervantes has an INCREDIBLE advantage over Astaroth when dealing with the rest of the cast?

EDIT:
And to your comment about Habast's tier list. I agree, Maxi isn't low tier... however, he's low-mid. When you actually know how to fight him, where his holes are at, and how limited he can be VS a lot of match ups, it becomes an easier match. Maxi has pretty much the same holes from IV, just this time around he's got more damage.
 
algol isnt some god tier killing machine, i feel u have over placed him. i am certain that leixia is the best character in the game, better than natsu for sure.
 
Well B/Mid Tier isn't exactly high. Its just what it is, average. Better than the weak chars, worse than the strong ones.
 
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