Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

In vanilla 5, she's high-tier. Solid damage and combo options, decent tracking, BEST SIDESTEP IN THE GAME (Jakeiho stance). Her throw/hold damage is low, but she has enough options to render it moot.

In 5U, it's likely the same story. Time will tell, though.

She feels roughly the same (her moves not her boobs DUH! lmfao!) and I feel like her low sweep stun kick lost a little bit of speed, I used to get people on reaction with that in DOA5..
 
wanna see lopedo`s Rachel vs PerfectLegend and Rikuto?
...here ya go!
http://www.twitch.tv/perfectlegend/b/455989531

Un-modded, stock orrrrr The Original.
(depends on the game...No patches/mods/any kinda of updates)

Come TFC, every single Rachel you see will be playing exactly like that. Only two characters have the built in tools to stop the loop, and they still have to guess.

Oh, and you know that force tech stomp she does? if it misses, she gets more advantage. In around the +25 range.

No bans, though. I leave this disease with the community and smile. It's time they learned what I've been going through with Helena.
 
Come TFC, every single Rachel you see will be playing exactly like that. Only two characters have the built in tools to stop the loop, and they still have to guess.

Oh, and you know that force tech stomp she does? if it misses, she gets more advantage. In around the +25 range.

No bans, though. I leave this disease with the community and smile. It's time they learned what I've been going through with Helena.
Hey Rikuto, I have a question. Do you still hate Helena (or think she's stupid/OP/broken etc.)? Just wondering.

That aside, I am LOVING this game. Devoted my first two days with the game to mostly Helena.

Rachel is disgusting. She shall be my main after Helena.

Leifang is great as usually. I'm a total noob with her but she's really fun (especially landing advanced/expert holds with her. Each time I do one I go 'Yataa!').

Barely even touched Momiji. Tomorrow, though, will be dedicated to her. Her movelist is small and she doesn't have great lows, but I think I can make her work. She seems really fun once you get to know her.
 
Oh, and you know that force tech stomp she does? if it misses, she gets more advantage. In around the +25 range.
Both Matt and Mamba have confirmed that it's not +25 on the FSD thread.
BlackxxxMamba said:
But she doesn't get that though. She isn't at +28 if stomp whiffs. Her stomp leaves her at +15, but you can tech out of it. She has one move that leaves her +5 on block. So what is everyone actually complaining about?
Mr.Wah said:
Sorry just verified that she's around +11 if you tech the kick, +/-2 frames depending on your timing of the 2K.
 
Yeah. Happy as hell to have Leon back.

TRIPLE ARM HUMPS FOR EVERYONE! :D

Neat that the Salty Saudi Air Throw can go different directions now.

Don't see my Red Coat of Justice...ah well.
 
so i found out that you can kick people from lobbies while playing. some dude from asia was in a USA room and for whatever the reason the USA guy left and the asian guy got to be host even though i was 5 bars with the USA dude. so i beat the asian dude in an uber laggy match. and the dude kicked me while i was in character select to face someone i had a decent connection with. this could be good though. i think i'm gonna start making my own rooms. and why won't anyone do tag matches and form teams? i just don't get it.
 
I managed to invest some more time with the characters last night.
Bear in mind that these are personal opinions:

  • Helena feels much different. Maybe I just never really understood the force tech game in 5, but she feels much more dangerous now. Still on the slow side, but she hits like a truck off of goddamn EVERYTHING.
  • Jann Lee... I was hoping they had nerfed DG. Nope. Although his Dragon Stance P+K is fun as hell. Gonna go hang out with Jacky again.
  • If Christie got nerfed, I do not see it. She feels exactly as dangerous as she used to.
  • Bayman's still damn good, too. I'm gonna need a little time to figure out whether Leon or Bayman's better, but that backroll... just wow.
  • Kokoro doesn't seem very different either, although her strings feel a little faster. Apparently she lost some stun moves...
  • Eliot... does TN even want this kid to be good?! Even his command training's buggy as f**k.
  • Ayane's the same, but with some different inputs.
  • Kasumi was buffed, without a doubt. Mostly just more string options and better move properties.
  • Rig feels more... Sarah-like, which is precisely what I thought he needed. Also, Rig Twister is now Turning~K~H+K. Nice.
 
Just started it up, tried out the newbies in command training.

Rachel - Ehh... Not even Ivy's cock trample move makes me think "better than a random VF character". Plus even in the World of DOA's plastic girls in fetish costumes, she looks a bit out of place.
Momoji - Fucking Inzuna move. Other than that ehh.
Jacky - Cool character
Leon - Has a Bryan Fury style punch to the gut and throw overhead AKA best move ever. Shame he hasn't got dat laff.
Ein - Waste really.

In short. Leon, Jacky, Momoji, Rachel, Ein. It doesn't help that I would rather have Dural.

I know it really sounds like I'm hating it but no. Im just that guy who buys all the updates just to dick about in training mode. I am Pat.
 
so i found out that you can kick people from lobbies while playing. some dude from asia was in a USA room and for whatever the reason the USA guy left and the asian guy got to be host even though i was 5 bars with the USA dude. so i beat the asian dude in an uber laggy match. and the dude kicked me while i was in character select to face someone i had a decent connection with. this could be good though. i think i'm gonna start making my own rooms. and why won't anyone do tag matches and form teams? i just don't get it.

I will tag team with you if you invite me!
 
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