Psykai
[12] Conqueror
Nightmare Moon would like a word with you...
But she's an Allicorn, so I'll let it slide. ^_^
SOULCALIBUR 6: News, leaks and information discussion.
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But she's an Allicorn, so I'll let it slide. ^_^
CFW
[13] Hero
what the hell is that lmao
Crimzin
[12] Conqueror
Nightmare Moon would like a word with you...
But she's an Allicorn, so I'll let it slide. ^_^
WuHT
Premium Moderator
Lot of thoughts:
When the SOUL CALIBUR logo turned red, I was thinking OMG they're revealing a guest character (despite gifting us with FOUR reveals already).
Almost everyone's 2p colours look really cool. I'd rank them as X > NM > Groh > Kilik > Sophitia > Mitsurugi subjectively.
If I didn't mention it, it is likely because I think it is awesome. I'm probably posting things that concern me, because everything else is implied to be simply stunning.
Character specific:
1) Groh:
He doesn't look like a Soul Calibur character until you see him in action. Just a closeup of his outfit looks out of place: the fabric texture of his coat looks too modern and the materials of his eye patch / left arm armor look too high-fantasy and ends up looking like DLC CAS parts (and I mean that in a bad way).
His outfit sticks out more than Zwei/Viola but at least his weapon set and moveset look very fitting for SC.
Canon wise he doesn't seem like a malevolent character, and he functions as an agent working for some mysterious organization that it trying to accomplish a certain task.
I haven't seen gameplay so far (its not even past day 1) which would support his Necalli form being tied to his Soul Charge. Who gave him his 3 scars across his eye ? If it is Viola I'd be very surprised.
Notice the coupling for the 2 blades (at the center of the dual blades) is actually attached only to the light blade , which would suggest the dark blade is slightly shorter from hilt to blade tip.
Anyone notice his shoulder emblem ? A Royal lion (with a crown) and 3 swords ? We know Groh has 2.. so is there anything we are missing ?
I like both his JP and ENG voice.
2) Nightmare:
Wow. Visually the tattered cape really makes him look more menacing (kinda like how Megatron had a cape). How will this affect Zasalamel / Raphael, which are 2 characters that also had capes in their designs at one point?
Secondly, his helm is very SC1 esque, but the face plate looks aesthetically more pleasing and memorable.
You guys notice he has a dragon Motif now ? Check out the relief on the top sides of his helm and the shoulder pauldron.
I can't see any differences between SC1 Soul Edge and SC6 Soul Edge.
The dude summons a demonic shadow steed for his CE but if you look closely it is a actually a Unicorn! I wonder what will happen if the opponent has his back to a edge, will NM ring himself out or the opponent will magically slide to the middle of the stage.
His chest cuirass features a sharp point but it seems so low that it makes him look like he has a giant gut instead. His helm and Pauldron look a lot more polished, intricate and detailed, but oddly his chest cuirass looks so plain and ordinary (even more plain than SC1/SC2)! There is no eye carving, no monster jaw, ..etc.. it just is just a sharp point that juts out.
His moveset actually doesn't appear as brute-force powerful, considering the trailers show multi-hits before the opponent is finally flung away from the impact. Sometimes less is more. In his case, if you have someone with a giant monster arm swinging a man-sized cleaver and still requiring 4 slices (like after his 4B lethal hit on mitsurugi) before the victim is smashed away, then it actually makes him looks weaker rather than being mighty.
Almost every strike from Nightmare should be an all-in haymaker type as it fits his imposing and fearsome nature.
Lastly, his 6B multi-drill on CH does a SHIT TON of damage (like over 1/4) against Groh! His A+B explosion is actually RE-able too!
Lastly, his JP voice doesn't really jive with me.
3) Xianghua
Her RE animation looks like her old sidestep twirl aGI.
Does anyone know why her weapon wiggles during the character select screen when she poses?
Also it is interesting she is not directly next to Kilik in the select screen.
In the trailer her face has a rubbery/plastic texture to it. It is not a porcelain material, and it certainly doesn't emulate real skin (which would have pores/wrinkles that would diffuse light in a specific way) . Obviously her face sticks out the most (compared to her hands, arms and legs) since there is most attention there. Hopefully they spend more time polishing her facial appearance, something appears off and I can't quite describe it.
Why does she reference her mother during her CE (similar to Leixia). Maybe they came from a lineage of warrior women. I had to do a double take when she said "You can't stop me!!" because at first I thought she was being defiant to her own mother, but it appears she's saying that to her opponent.
I like how she doesn't even look backwards after delivering the final strike to the opponent (ala Alpha Pat / Setsuka)
4) Kilik
Kilik is the character where I find both his 1p and 2p colours to be close to equal in terms of attractiveness.
Aethstically, what is up with his sleeve ? It looks so strange, and if you see him in the 2p position you'll see what I mean.
The sound effect for when he strikes with his staff isn't very distinct from when he whiffs or is just twirling during neutral poses. It has the air-whiff noise but not the impact sound and audio is critical to helping players identify hit-confirms.
Ie:, if I close my eyes I can't actually tell if the opponent is struck until they make pain-grunt noises. This is most noticeable during his first A+B combo on mitsurugi.
He has the most tame looking CE out of the cast (a Phoenix screech like SC4 for the last hit would really help sell the impact).
Conversely, his Evil Seed Kilik has a move that looks like the entire stage is going to get blown up. I actually felt bad for Xianghua (thats the mother of his child in the future!) This attack is BY FAR the most cutscene-esque and I almost thought it was a single player story line-only , but the stage backdrop suggests otherwise (and it would suck to have a Kilik and a Evil Seed Kilik).
Why does Evil Seed Kilik summon fire when he grabs Xianghua?
Why does he heave energy tattoos / wild flowing hair (seems like visual tropes ala Necalli)
You'll notice his top clothing while he is staggering is still there, but after transformation it magically disappears. The trailer could, of course, not be continuous in terms of gameplay.
Overall, it has a been a GOOD day for soul calibur fans!
When the SOUL CALIBUR logo turned red, I was thinking OMG they're revealing a guest character (despite gifting us with FOUR reveals already).
Almost everyone's 2p colours look really cool. I'd rank them as X > NM > Groh > Kilik > Sophitia > Mitsurugi subjectively.
If I didn't mention it, it is likely because I think it is awesome. I'm probably posting things that concern me, because everything else is implied to be simply stunning.
Character specific:
1) Groh:
He doesn't look like a Soul Calibur character until you see him in action. Just a closeup of his outfit looks out of place: the fabric texture of his coat looks too modern and the materials of his eye patch / left arm armor look too high-fantasy and ends up looking like DLC CAS parts (and I mean that in a bad way).
His outfit sticks out more than Zwei/Viola but at least his weapon set and moveset look very fitting for SC.
Canon wise he doesn't seem like a malevolent character, and he functions as an agent working for some mysterious organization that it trying to accomplish a certain task.
I haven't seen gameplay so far (its not even past day 1) which would support his Necalli form being tied to his Soul Charge. Who gave him his 3 scars across his eye ? If it is Viola I'd be very surprised.
Notice the coupling for the 2 blades (at the center of the dual blades) is actually attached only to the light blade , which would suggest the dark blade is slightly shorter from hilt to blade tip.
Anyone notice his shoulder emblem ? A Royal lion (with a crown) and 3 swords ? We know Groh has 2.. so is there anything we are missing ?
I like both his JP and ENG voice.
2) Nightmare:
Wow. Visually the tattered cape really makes him look more menacing (kinda like how Megatron had a cape). How will this affect Zasalamel / Raphael, which are 2 characters that also had capes in their designs at one point?
Secondly, his helm is very SC1 esque, but the face plate looks aesthetically more pleasing and memorable.
You guys notice he has a dragon Motif now ? Check out the relief on the top sides of his helm and the shoulder pauldron.
I can't see any differences between SC1 Soul Edge and SC6 Soul Edge.
The dude summons a demonic shadow steed for his CE but if you look closely it is a actually a Unicorn! I wonder what will happen if the opponent has his back to a edge, will NM ring himself out or the opponent will magically slide to the middle of the stage.
His chest cuirass features a sharp point but it seems so low that it makes him look like he has a giant gut instead. His helm and Pauldron look a lot more polished, intricate and detailed, but oddly his chest cuirass looks so plain and ordinary (even more plain than SC1/SC2)! There is no eye carving, no monster jaw, ..etc.. it just is just a sharp point that juts out.
His moveset actually doesn't appear as brute-force powerful, considering the trailers show multi-hits before the opponent is finally flung away from the impact. Sometimes less is more. In his case, if you have someone with a giant monster arm swinging a man-sized cleaver and still requiring 4 slices (like after his 4B lethal hit on mitsurugi) before the victim is smashed away, then it actually makes him looks weaker rather than being mighty.
Almost every strike from Nightmare should be an all-in haymaker type as it fits his imposing and fearsome nature.
Lastly, his 6B multi-drill on CH does a SHIT TON of damage (like over 1/4) against Groh! His A+B explosion is actually RE-able too!
Lastly, his JP voice doesn't really jive with me.
3) Xianghua
Her RE animation looks like her old sidestep twirl aGI.
Does anyone know why her weapon wiggles during the character select screen when she poses?
Also it is interesting she is not directly next to Kilik in the select screen.
In the trailer her face has a rubbery/plastic texture to it. It is not a porcelain material, and it certainly doesn't emulate real skin (which would have pores/wrinkles that would diffuse light in a specific way) . Obviously her face sticks out the most (compared to her hands, arms and legs) since there is most attention there. Hopefully they spend more time polishing her facial appearance, something appears off and I can't quite describe it.
Why does she reference her mother during her CE (similar to Leixia). Maybe they came from a lineage of warrior women. I had to do a double take when she said "You can't stop me!!" because at first I thought she was being defiant to her own mother, but it appears she's saying that to her opponent.
I like how she doesn't even look backwards after delivering the final strike to the opponent (ala Alpha Pat / Setsuka)
4) Kilik
Kilik is the character where I find both his 1p and 2p colours to be close to equal in terms of attractiveness.
Aethstically, what is up with his sleeve ? It looks so strange, and if you see him in the 2p position you'll see what I mean.
The sound effect for when he strikes with his staff isn't very distinct from when he whiffs or is just twirling during neutral poses. It has the air-whiff noise but not the impact sound and audio is critical to helping players identify hit-confirms.
Ie:, if I close my eyes I can't actually tell if the opponent is struck until they make pain-grunt noises. This is most noticeable during his first A+B combo on mitsurugi.
He has the most tame looking CE out of the cast (a Phoenix screech like SC4 for the last hit would really help sell the impact).
Conversely, his Evil Seed Kilik has a move that looks like the entire stage is going to get blown up. I actually felt bad for Xianghua (thats the mother of his child in the future!) This attack is BY FAR the most cutscene-esque and I almost thought it was a single player story line-only , but the stage backdrop suggests otherwise (and it would suck to have a Kilik and a Evil Seed Kilik).
Why does Evil Seed Kilik summon fire when he grabs Xianghua?
Why does he heave energy tattoos / wild flowing hair (seems like visual tropes ala Necalli)
You'll notice his top clothing while he is staggering is still there, but after transformation it magically disappears. The trailer could, of course, not be continuous in terms of gameplay.
Overall, it has a been a GOOD day for soul calibur fans!
Fatal_Exodus
[14] Master
A quick glance at Groh's official art raises a bunch of questions, like the French motifs of fleur-de-lis like detail on his pants and the combination of lion and sunburst (plus the three crossing blades, I have no idea what the means). Then there's the Celtic/Scandinavian intertwining lines that reminds me a lot of Z.W.E.I.'s detailing as well as Ivy's second costume in IV. Lastly, there's his double blades, of which one of them is white/gold, kinda like his recolor shown in the gameplay video (I hope this doesn't disprove the idea that they're not including alternate costumes).
RyujiSakamoto
Premium Member
......Do you think malfested Kilik could be a seperate character....perhaps the final boss?
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20140930160837
Also Xianghua and Kilik sort of look like how they did in SCI
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...KilikSC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080303080523
They took the original designs and made them more like their newer costumes.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20140930160837
Also Xianghua and Kilik sort of look like how they did in SCI
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...KilikSC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080303080523
They took the original designs and made them more like their newer costumes.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
I highly doubt we'll get another Kilik / Kilik Omega situation after the outcry that SoulCalibur V got. What would be interesting is if he got a "good" form and an "evil" form that you could pick one or the other with a different input.
And I feel like the third blade on Grøh is foreshadowing that he's going to get a third blade in his future (no, I'm not letting this theory go.
).
And I feel like the third blade on Grøh is foreshadowing that he's going to get a third blade in his future (no, I'm not letting this theory go.
).
WuHT
Premium Moderator
Here is Kawano reusing his prior work : cool pose tho
RyujiSakamoto
Premium Member
So they basically just tweaked his SCV outfit?
Project Bokuho
[14] Master
@0:50 Xianghua has her anti-crouching throw back ♥
Leinahtan
[10] Knight
I wonder if some characters have soul charges while others have berserk/stance changes, based on the Kilik reveal bit.
WuHT
Premium Moderator
Nah I wouldn't go that far. I'm suggesting they designed their SC6 based on SC1, but the lead artist had to make a really cool pose for the official art so he just recycled the pose-work from his "scrap" work.
Looks awesome in my opinion still.
Psykai
[12] Conqueror
lol she's a villain from My Little Pony. Was the first thing I thought of when seeing 'unicorns looking cool and scary'. Just a joke though. Nightmare's CE Unicorn looks badass as hell. Shame I can't play him worth for shit.
Ryuhza
[13] Hero
Hm, the 17 minute gameplay video got taken down. Put up too early, maybe?
Can't find any mirrors, so we might just have to wait. :\
Can't find any mirrors, so we might just have to wait. :\
Frayhua
[14] Master
No, Kilik just has 2 supers. He doesn't have Soul Charge Mode. The character selection screen doesn't have 2 Kilik's.
I downloaded it.
Brut4L
[10] Knight
Wtf, the gameplay video was deleted from Youtube..maybe namco didnt like it?
Frayhua
[14] Master
Maybe an embargo to EVO Japan 2018 SCVI videos or it was uploaded too early.
BloodyTigerRoar
[10] Knight
"Make Soul Calibur Great Again"
*Sees trailer*
"Oh shit they're doing it!"
*Sees trailer*
"Oh shit they're doing it!"
the_prodigy
[10] Knight
Yeah I'm surprised no one felt the same about mistu's CE...I mean come on lol..can't they be more creative than just giving him 2 basic sword strikes, with some special effects for a CE. Imo some of his moveset looks better than his CE.
DanteSC3
[14] Master
I'm still holding out for Zasalamel's CE being summoning a giant cogwheel to smash his opponent.
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