Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

DanteSC3 said:
It looks like she got some fashion tips from Xianghua.
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Mi-na invented Xianghua.. :sc5lei1:
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Just need they said "this isn't Seong Mi-na, is her new new replacement, Lingxa Keii". Kappa
 
DanteSC3 said:
It would’ve spared us from Xiba and Leixia in SoulCalibur V. I bet dollars to doughnuts that Hwang and Mi-na’s kids would have been more palatable. Of course, they still wouldn’t have been given proper development...
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I'm just saying that the exuberance with which you invoked the idiom there seems out of proportion to the likely differences in the hypothetical 'alternate universe'.

But to jump to a different track raised here, just what is your objection to Leixia? Xiba I can understand: I've always said that clown explains why Xiangua is nowhere to be found in SCV and Kilik is hiding behind a mask: I'd take similar measures to hide from the world if Xiba was my kid.. But Leixia is virtually a carbon copy of Xiangua--and if anything she has slightly less obnoxiously immature personality, relative to her age. And also in contrast to Xiba (whose style is aesthetically more goofy than Kilik's), Leixia's xian style is roughly parallel to Xiangua's in standard of grace, and even strips out a couple of silly elements. So why the dislike?

SpellcraftQuill said:
Mi-Na sees him more as a brother... I think even the in-game bio says so.
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Yeah....but when you consider the tone of some the interactions between actually related characters in recent entries......
 
SpellcraftQuill said:
Mi-Na sees him more as a brother... I think even the in-game bio says so.
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At first, yes, but I feel like after her dealings with Yun-seong, she changes her mind. We don’t know for sure, because Korea was excluded from SoulCalibur V, but Mi-na’s ending in SoulCalibur IV has her ostensibly putting Yun-seong out of his misery and then returning home with a smile, so make of that what you will.

Rusted Blade said:
I'm just saying that the exuberance with which you invoked the idiom there seems out of proportion to the likely differences in the hypothetical 'alternate universe'.
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Which is fair, but I suppose that was more of a caught in the moment pow-wow exclamation with LisaK more than anything else. I’m not saying that this change would be a serious consideration or something that would actually occur.


Rusted Blade said:
But to jump to a different track raised here, just what is your objection to Leixia? Xiba I can understand: I've always said that clown explains why Xiangua is nowhere to be found in SCV and Kilik is hiding behind a mask: I'd take similar measures to hide from the world if Xiba was my kid too. But Leixia is virtually a carbon copy of Xiangua--and if anything she has slightly less obnoxiously immature personality, relative to her age. And also in contrast to Xiba (whose style is aesthetically more goofy than Kilik's), Leixia's xian style is a roughly parallel to Xiangua's in grace, and even strips out a couple of silly elements. So why the dislike?
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I love Leixia from a gameplay perspective. It definitely trimmed the fat of Xianghua’s silliness and added some of Hwang’s nice things to make a competent fighting style that reminded me of Luna from SoulCalibur III. I’m glad that Xianghua from SoulCalibur VI has kept some of these improvements. The moveset, however, is not evocative of the character who is using it.

I hate Leixia as a character. It’s just goofy, far worse than Xianghua ever was. That sheltered in the castle princess vibe who goes on a journey looking for love with the blind exuberance of a child just doesn’t do it for me. Beyond that, she seemingly is fine coexisting with Xiba, which is baffling. Maxi had the worst job in SoulCalibur V, having to wrangle Xiba and Leixia, and I imagine if Natsu was a headcase too, he would have just gone completely insane with grief. Thankfully, Taki imposes some discipline in Natsu, though she is definitely a hotheaded teenager, she’s a lot better off than Xianghua’s kids.
 
I played SE as a kid and always thought Mi-na and Hwang were a couple or something, I think it's clear the feelings he has for her, but I think Mi-na doesn't want a housewife like Sophitia and Xianghua.
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so I hope they stay together and their kids outsold Xiba and Leixia.
 
DanteSC3 said:
That sheltered in the castle princess vibe who goes on a journey looking for love with the blind exuberance of a child just doesn’t do it for me. Beyond that, she seemingly is fine coexisting with Xiba, which is baffling.
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Yeah but at least the behaviour is consistent with the narrative in that instance: Leixia being guileless and naive as a consequence of her coddled upbringing may not make for the best narrative choice, but at least it serves as a better pairing with the character's behaviour than what was presented with Xiangua: she's supposed to be a member of the imperial guard, from a long line of distinguished warriors, and orphaned from a young age, but rather than the character evidencing someone who had to grow up fast and was apparently capable and dependable enough to be enlisted into a position of great importance and gravity, we have this ditzy, juvenile character forever floating on the edge of outright comic relief. That seems much more problematic from a storytelling perspective than an overly earnest and unworldly character.

After-all we only got to see the very beginning of Lexia's story from a young age, and such characters often end up being foils set up by the plot for rapid maturation, once the reality of the world comes crashing down upon them. Xiangua meanwhile got how many games without the slightest hint of significant character development? (I mean, not that she's terrifically atypical for Soulcalibur characters in that respect, but still...) In fact, the only evidence we ever get that she grew up is by the context of her later story as it is indirectly related in SCV and its bonus materials. Then again, I don't even remember Leixia's plot arc in SCV, so I'm not coming at this well-informed in that respect. I just have a hard time understanding how (context and relativity factored in) she could be considered that much more silly than Xiangua.
 
I guess my complaint stems from the fact that Leixia's character is even more juvenile than Xianghua (albeit with good reason), and yet her moveset is more serious, and it made me want to see an elder Xianghua utilizing the style instead. That's the sum of my discontent. I agree with your points, but Xianghua got the benefit of the doubt for being a fun character to play as before the story actually started getting semi-serious in SoulCalibur III, so I had already grown attached to Xianghua the silly girl fighter by the time it was even really hinted at that she might have a bit more going on, but even so, her story in SoulCalibur III is relatively jokey in tone, with Kilik being a dense idiot who can't see her feelings, and doesn't actually kick into serious mode until her story in SoulCalibur IV, which has a much more serious tone overall going for it.
 
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