Cheapest character in sc4

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UnknownSoul

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Just wondering what people's thoughts on this was. Mitsurugi here it may be thanks to all the newbs on live but i feel a mitsurugi with 5 mins of practice is almost or if not as dangerous as a voldo or ivy with hours of practice. Yoshi is pretty cheap to me too but at least it takes a little more practice with yoshi, what he's got like 15-20 unblockables or somewhere in that range that's insane.
 
UnknownSoul said:
Just wondering what people's thoughts on this was. Mitsurugi here it may be thanks to all the newbs on live but i feel a mitsurugi with 5 mins of practice is almost or if not as dangerous as a voldo or ivy with hours of practice. Yoshi is pretty cheap to me too but at least it takes a little more practice with yoshi, what he's got like 15-20 unblockables or somewhere in that range that's insane.
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I think Asty, Mitsu, and Sets have the most success for the smallest amount of work. Pretty self-explanatory, they can get away with 2 or 3 moves (online, at least).
 
Kilik, Hilde, Mitsurugi, Algol, Cassandra, Sophitia, Raphael and Xianghua are definitely the easiest or "cheapest" characters in Soulcalibur 4 to become good with.
 
It is a very stupid thread but since they asked who the cheapest characters are I couldn't resist telling them.
 
There will never be a solid answer for the question.. Cause the cheapness of a character is opinion... Usually someone will refer to a character as cheap if they have a hard time adjusting or dealing with certain tactics of that character. Some say Yoda is cheap, but he's an extremely easy outting for me.
 
im sure theres a dozen other threads like this? but anyway im sure youll want to know my opinion. i always thought of raph as a cheap ass, but i hear most people say hes a dud character, i know hes not great but any hint of lag and i suddenly hate the guy. all opinions really, like the post above saying xian is cheap, easy to learn, i disagree 100%

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Any character in SCIV can be cheap... but from personal experience, I absolutely hate Lizardman and his crawl stance... so annoying.
 
UnknownSoul said:
Asty and mitsu don't suprise me but sets as in setsuka intresting.
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This is just a starting Sets with no JF:
2A+B is a dumb, unseeable low which combos into 22A+BA which leaves great wakes: 2A+B again for immediate tech, 33B or 22A+BA if the crouch, stay down, 22A+BA even catches some rollers. 2B+K catches some tech (after 22A+BA). 66A+B is a good option too. 33B 6K is not only a good combo, but a good frametrap, even. 6K frame traps everything and combos into 22A+BA, which gives you wakes again.
That's really all you need, but there's more...

44B+K is a ridiculously good and easy punisher. 4K is cheap + frames on block. B+K series isn't all that hard and is ridiculous whiff punish + mixup with 2A+B. Her BB is hella annoying. Her 2A is, well, 2A, but it's a good one. aB and bA do hella gauge damage, and bA cuts step like a motherfucker (though is unsafe). 3B bA 33B is massive damage easy combo. AA cuts step well. Etc...

JFs just make her ridiculous. Easy to land 1B:B? Invisible 1A:A:A? Supa fast umbrella punish + dumb ass combos? What a mess.

Hilde, is of course, king, but that goes without saying. Algol is also kinda annoying if you can't see 11A. Volda and Amy, etc... As the lag worsens, more of the cast join the legions of cheap (though not all are created with equal lag powa.)
 
Nukleurfire said:
This is just a starting Sets with no JF:
2A+B is a dumb, unseeable low which combos into 22A+BA which leaves great wakes: 2A+B again for immediate tech, 33B or 22A+BA if the crouch, stay down, 22A+BA even catches some rollers. 2B+K catches some tech (after 22A+BA). 66A+B is a good option too. 33B 6K is not only a good combo, but a good frametrap, even. 6K frame traps everything and combos into 22A+BA, which gives you wakes again.
That's really all you need, but there's more...

44B+K is a ridiculously good and easy punisher. 4K is cheap + frames on block. B+K series isn't all that hard and is ridiculous whiff punish + mixup with 2A+B. Her BB is hella annoying. Her 2A is, well, 2A, but it's a good one. aB and bA do hella gauge damage, and bA cuts step like a motherfucker (though is unsafe). 3B bA 33B is massive damage easy combo. AA cuts step well. Etc...
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2a+b has kind of a funky animation, but it's definitely not unseeable. If you play against Sets players, you'll learn to block this like any other 1a. Online, of course........

4k is high, and very steppable. I guess it puts her in range for 1a/mid mixups, but it's definitely not cheap. B+K series is pretty slow and lacks range, also steppable I'm pretty sure.

Sets is a solid character, but she's not easy to use. She really needs her JFs, and needs to play smart to work around her weaknesses, which would be no solid low outside of 1a range (people will see 2a+b) and her really safe stuff being easily stepped. She has the tools to work around this, and you could arguably put her in the top 5, but she's not easy.
 
KowtowRobinson said:
2a+b has kind of a funky animation, but it's definitely not unseeable. If you play against Sets players, you'll learn to block this like any other 1a. Online, of course........

4k is high, and very steppable. I guess it puts her in range for 1a/mid mixups, but it's definitely not cheap. B+K series is pretty slow and lacks range, also steppable I'm pretty sure.

Sets is a solid character, but she's not easy to use. She really needs her JFs, and needs to play smart to work around her weaknesses, which would be no solid low outside of 1a range (people will see 2a+b) and her really safe stuff being easily stepped. She has the tools to work around this, and you could arguably put her in the top 5, but she's not easy.
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*shrugs* I guess I'm basing my opinion mostly off the fact that a. I fight several good sets and they trash me horribly, and b. I do better with her than my mains. -Makes me kinda want to rant.
Maybe the 4K and B+K bits were a bit of an exaggeration, but you can see how much of a pain Sets is if you can't block her 2A+B on reaction. Also you haven't addressed my two other major points, 33B and 6K.
 
i never thought 2a+b was that good, like kowtow says its got an obvious animation, ill only use for grounded opp'. i dont think you can complain about 33b, its strong and fast but you should expect that from sets, ha no way im accepting that sets is overpowered. maybe just 'cos i use her alot and aint too good
 
Nukleurfire said:
Also you haven't addressed my two other major points, 33B and 6K.
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33B is steppable in either direction, but more so in one direction (Sets' right I believe?).

6K has crap for range and is -14 block. Highly punishable for some characters. Free AA for the rest.
 
At some point I hope to play against someone around my skill level and choose Mitsu, who I've only played with once or twice in story mode, and see if I win.
 
LeftHandLead said:
There will never be a solid answer for the question.. Cause the cheapness of a character is opinion... Usually someone will refer to a character as cheap if they have a hard time adjusting or dealing with certain tactics of that character. Some say Yoda is cheap, but he's an extremely easy outting for me.
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Very well put there buddy i agree with you 100% i wasn't really looking for any facts just opinions; Got some good ones i say, that ends this thread for me.
 
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