Creation Improvements &/Wishes

franman

[13] Hero
So after fiddling with Creation in SC5 what do you feel needs to be improved?

Also if there are features that just weren't there (in SC5 as well as in previous iterations) that you wish were there please feel free to share about it.
 
I don't like how too many 1P parts share the same colour base : This is probably only noticeable with Raphael, as his hat, cloak and shirt all are the same colour in the recolour process but the default 1P had 3 different colours for those parts.
 
Much much more clothes, 1p and 2p outfits usable, and a patch to fix some of the layering issues. Some parts, like the Maid Apron and sash ribbon are almost useless because of how much they conflict with parts they should go with. And also a fix to some items' specularity glitch- check items like the bikini with pareo and the off the shoulder Yukata and you'll see that no matter what color or pattern you make them, they keep the specularity of the base color (the pareo has a red sheen and the yukata a blue one)
 
I can name a few...

1. Fix the clipping
2. Fix pieces that bulge for full-figured characters
3. Better clothing options (roughly half of what's in SCV is decent; others outright suck)
4. Give us equipment from original characters' 1P and 2P from SCIV and SCV (why decided not to do this is beyond me...)
5. More modern/school clothing (Because of this, I have to make less characters/costumes now)
6. A few more Creation-exclusive styles would've been nice, even if based on older styles
7. Let us use Algol's style for Creation
8. Have "black" as a color for the weapon trail
9. Asymmetrical options on the body, such as deformed Omega Phyrra/Nightmare-like arms and heterocromia
10. They should've given us more patterns instead of all those 160+ useless Chinese characters
11. Have malfested voices sound "distorted" instead of "robotic"
12. More hairstyles, even if it's from SCIV and SC:BD
13. Allow us to have eyeballs glow like Nightmare's
 
I'd like more voices to choose from. Better fitting clothing for fuller figures. There's tons of face paint relative to how many faces there are to choose from. Right now in faces you mainly have little girls and ugly women...I'd like some more attractive woman faces. And maybe lessen the effect clothing has on masking moves somehow.
 
- an option to choose material textures for equipment, kind of like the scale pattern.
- Allow more layering. Make more categories for equipments and have them not conflict with each other so much. That way we could have more stuff to put on characters.
- An option to choose if a coat is closed or open
- Increase the amount of stickers per equipment/character
- Increase the amount of special items per character
- Allow us to have shoulder pads on just one shoulder. Same for arm gears. Also allow us to choose on which side we want it. Would be nice to mix and match them too.

Then everything above this post of course.
I realize that some of these could cause a number of problems and I don't actually demand these (well a few I kinda do :D) but hey, this is a wishlist.

What I do kinda really want, is that if they do make a SCVI, that they only improve and add upon the already good features, not take some of them away.
 
Things I've noticed so far.

The Kitty meow suit has the indentations of women's breast even when equipped on a flat chested male.
Plus the pectoral sliders have no effect on this.

The Pyramid, cone, cylinder and cube items cannot be textured.
But the sphere for some reason can be.

Stickers can be placed using either axis or view.
But battle scars can only be placed by view.
I find this method frustrating.

Stamps/scars/stickers have no numerical values on the sliders.
This makes it tough for posting formulas.
NOTE: ( I personally move the sliders to the far left then count how many moves I have made.)

Why cant we put Stamps/scars/stickers on cas legs

But probably the most frustrating thing to deal with to me has been a problem since sc3.
In a game where people have figured out how to create dongs and boobs of all sizes.
why cant i have the same color table for undergarments.
if flesh tones are the issue then that's dumb.
Their are worst things on line as we speak than a flesh tone undergarments.

I would love to see these issues patched.

As far as wishes go

In SC:BD you could adjust the size/placement on all eye-wear some hats and even some shoulder equipment.
this made for some cool little touches like glasses on a mask or a hat tipped to the side.
a small thing for sure but a cool feature none the less.
This feature would have been cool for all those floating capes in SC5

Also in SC:BD we had a cool orc like face and a old/burned face.
they made for evil looking cas. i had hoped to see them again.

Maybe this wish needs it own thread but i want to know why all the SC4 cas content couldn't be transferred over to SC5.
Sorry if the following statement sounds terribly ignorant.
but aside from some tweaks it seems to me it would have been a drag and drop situation.
Since both were made for the same generation of console.
i would think it would have been better than making stuff from scratch and would have made sc4 created cas available.

more to come later.
 
This is my fan side talkin:
I would like for these clothe to NOT look like my character gained fucken 10 pounds or some particular items to be floating around my character....so I would like for them to fix that.
Variety of retro and other styles of clothes, I know this game's time line is not 2012...but I don't think it'll hurt to have some 2012 style clothes...
DIFFERENT HAIR STYLES!
I mean...Seriously...? Why do we get the recycled SCIV styles and the ONLY new ones are the SCV 1P styles...? Why can't we get both? I wanted to use natsu's 2P hair but we got her...fucken weird ass 1P hairstyle...gross...
I would also LOVE to see them bring back some previous SC outfits for DLC. That'd be beastly.

Oh! And one more thing...make the entire rainbow gradient available FOR ALL CLOTHES! It truly pisses me off when I try to make something either red,orange, or brown, but I can't because the stupid gradient is from yellow to pink...like...wtf is up with that?
 
Voices- I don't know why they made them sound so robotic.

P2 Items - I was disappointed that all the p2 items from 4 was gone. Only to find out that the P2's from this game are also missing. I think I'm more upset about the ones from four being gone. Bring them back!!!

SCIV's DLC - Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I hope they convert those piece over to five. Also those of us who have already bought them, should have to buy them again

Clipping and Item conflicts - Sorry but one thing that frustrate me most is the item conflicts. I can handle clipping, but putting a belt on a full body item, shouldn't remove the lower half. Why can't I put a cap on full body items, why do some items change my underwear. Some of the conflicts don't even make sense.
 
I can name a few...

1. Fix the clipping
2. Fix pieces that bulge for full-figured characters
3. Better clothing options (roughly half of what's in SCV is decent; others outright suck)
4. Give us equipment from original characters' 1P and 2P from SCIV and SCV (why decided not to do this is beyond me...)
5. More modern/school clothing (Because of this, I have to make less characters/costumes now)
6. A few more Creation-exclusive styles would've been nice, even if based on older styles
7. Let us use Algol's style for Creation
8. Have "black" as a color for the weapon trail
9. Asymmetrical options on the body, such as deformed Omega Phyrra/Nightmare-like arms and heterocromia
10. They should've given us more patterns instead of all those 160+ useless Chinese characters
11. Have malfested voices sound "distorted" instead of "robotic"
12. More hairstyles, even if it's from SCIV and SC:BD
13. Allow us to have eyeballs glow like Nightmare's

I agree with most of these.
 
Remove that conflicting equipment thing. Its our choice how to dress up our character. I mean, why cant a Baihu Coat go with a Samurai Hakama? Its stupid.
 
1. Voices of course. I'm more leaning towards this equation: SC3's Alignment feature+SC4's pitch adjustment+SC5's voice options and the their pitch adjustment, just for the sake of creating a character that isn't "normal" persay.
2. More clothing options of course. Most of SCV's clothing is from SCIV, which isn't bad, but there isn't much new ones, besides the more modern ones.
3. More hair options for Christ's sakes, especially on the female's side. Besides 1 new one, everything else is from default characters and from SCIV. Some options from SCIV characters were removed.
4. Not too fond of "more modern clothing" over traditional ones, but that's just me.
5. 1P and 2P costumes for 1 CAS character is actually a pretty good idea, based on what others have suggested. I've been creating 1P and 2p costumes for characters myself.

I'll think of more later.
 
K first things first...

Improvements
-Make 1P and 2P costumes available for both CAS and original characters and also as presets.
-Original characters should also have costume presets as do CAS (pirate, western knight, ninja, etc.)
-Costume presets should have updates by the time you acquire a full set of costumes (such as Warthog Armour, Gorgon Armour, Voodoo Armour, Leviathan etc.)
-Some original characters are limited to certain amounts of clothing. If you compare Patrokalos to Cervantes, Pat has more underwear options than Cervy.

That's pretty much I could think of in terms of improvement; will post later on wishes.
 
Pretty much what ever one else said but I will emphasize speaking for myself these particular ones I want to see next game or even have a DLC Patch made for lol

Improvements
-1P AND 2P Outfits: I really was disappointed when I found out that you couldn't use any of the main casts' outfits in this game. And it sucks even more because I personally like a lot of the costumes in this game a lot more then the ones in SCIV, especially ones like Ivy (1P), Cervantes (1P), Raphael (1P/2P), & Viola(1P/2P). So yeah, I really hope they give this option.
-More Hairstyles: Like a lot have said, all they really did was recycle the same ones from SCIV and some of the hairstyles of the new characters. Like another user said, I really wanted to use Natsu's 2P hair but instead get stuck with her ugly random ass 1P hair (no offense lol). So yeah, definitely add more hairstyles please Namco? Or even better, why not enable us to create hairstyles like you can in Tekken 6 where you choose a front, left side, right side, and back for the hair?
-More Clothing & Accessories: Yes, like others stated, would love to see more clothing. I'm more for authenticy so I'm sliding more to traditional clothing like...
Japan: Hakamas, Kimonos, Geta, Hair ornaments, Ninja gear, etc. They pretty much covered this but I really wanted a pair of Okobo sandals (Platform sandles usually worn by Geisha) and a more stylized Kimono similar to Setsuka's outfit in SCIII.
China: Cheongsams (of all sizes), Chinese Robes, etc. All they did was re-use the China Slit dress, changpao, and a few helments... Would love to see more Chinese inspired clothing/accessories for DLC or in the next game.
You pretty much get the idea of what I mean. I wouldn't mind seeing SOME modern stuff but yeah, mostly traditional stuff. One modern thing I'd love to see is a modern Ninja bodysuit (I.E: Ryu Hayabusa of Ninja Gaiden wears a modernized Ninja bodysuit).
-Bringing back old school outfits of the previous cast for CAS (SB/SC, SCII, SCIII, & even SCIV of all characters' outfits).
-An option where you can add tears, rips, stitching, lace design, Mesh design, etc to clothing. Like for example, let's say I put a pair of hakama on my character but I want the bottom of the pants to be ripped and slightly tattered, they should add an option where you can add those kinds of details. Of course, they should apply this feature to most of the clothes. I mean, if Tira can wear tattered clothing (SCIII 1P & SCV 1P) or Mitsurugi can wear tattered hakama (SCV 1P), why can't our characters? lol
-More stickers/patterns. One I would most like to see is a fishnet & lace pattern and also a lace up sticker.
-More Equipment slots for Special Items and while I'm at it, more special equipment like anklets, ruffles, tails (wolf/fox), and so on.
-Asymmetrical Shoulder equipment
-Fix clothing issues/glitches/malfunctions ~ I think it looks awkward how some of the equipments (mainly shoulder equipment) looks like it's floating away from the character. As for a malfunction, I noticed on the girls that whenever I try to put on the black tights with the stiletto heels, it cuts off at the ankles and it just looks tacky. Please fix it so that the stocking goes all the way down into the heels instead of cutting midway at the ankle.
-More voices and please fix the pitch/toning. Most of the time when you try to change them, they sound like computers talking. lol
-Built in feature where when you create a character on a slot, you can also create a 2P outfit. Example, when you go to "Creation" and you pick a slot, when you click on "original creation", it'll pull up 2 more slots (left & right side). These indicate 1P and 2P outfits. If that makes sense?

And that's pretty much all I got lol
 
No point in repeating my wishes since I'm wishing things for CAS mode since the times of Soul Edge (I wanted a creating system since SE so, when they introduced CAS mode it was a miracle). And since they create the CAS system I wished for "more" and just had "less and less" with each new edition.

I not understand why to add one new thing they need to remove 5 old things. It's suposed to have the same + new things, not less. Tekken hair style for example was awesome, instead of imply it for SC we got less hairs than in SCIV.

Anyway, as I saying I wished enough things theyll never provide, so just saying some things they should fix/improve (fix, not add) and have chances of happen. Sha already mentioned them.

-Textures for especial items, not only sphere
-Numbers in bars for stickers, for heaven's sake
-Undergarment normal palette (I think this is to prevent nude characters but is quite stupid)
-Remove stupid incompatibilities (such as cant use leather belt with coat, seriously, why?)

As everyone I don't like floating items and characters that win several pounds when using an armor over a shirt, but I think is a problem too big to be fixable. I'm not a programer, but it looks like that. Of course if it can be fixed would be nice to solve it, but I don't think they can do that easly without have to redo the entire system and they are not gonna redo all.
 
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