If there was a Soul Calibur VI, prequel/sequel/reboot/retcon?

IdleMind said:
False. A.Pat and Oprah were intended from the start. They were on the original roster I saw indev.
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That's what I thought. If they were last minute decisions, then why do you spend nearly half of the story mode playing as Alpha Patroklos? Pyrrha Omega was probably intended too.
 
IdleMind said:
False. A.Pat and Oprah were intended from the start. They were on the original roster I saw indev.
jtdam09 said:
That's what I thought. If they were last minute decisions, then why do you spend nearly half of the story mode playing as Alpha Patroklos? Pyrrha Omega was probably intended too.
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Then why is Pat just a Setsuka swap? His/Their character may have been theoretically planned for a larger role in the concusion for the story but weapon wise I think they just fudged it.
 
1san said:
A few things that I really hate about SCV.

1) Those stupid Random Characters. Edgemaster was enough to begin with, and then we get another two of them + a friking Random square? Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Just look if they only made Edgemaster you'd have room for Zasalamel + Talim + Bogoo (Rock's son, who even had Concept art like he was going to be a char, then cut).
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Where is this concept art you speak of? Just out of curiosity.

1san said:
5) Agol, Viola, and Devil Jin don't belong here. Agol died something like 21 times....how the hell did he get here? Viola has combos so long she should be considered for Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 4, and Devil Jin just feels really out of place without any weapons in his hands.
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Algol only died once creating Soul Calibur (the sword).

I'm not even going to say anything about your opinion towards Viola, because it seems like you are relatively new to this forum, even though you joined months ago.

DevilsDisguise said:
Then why is Pat just a Setsuka swap? His/Their character may have been theoretically planned for a larger role in the concusion for the story but weapon wise I think they just fudged it.
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No doubt that Pyrrha Omega was going to obtain her moveset, but as far as Alpha Patroklos, what did YOU think they were going to do with Setsuka's moveset, and the presence of Alpha Patroklos?
 
1san said:
A few things that I really hate about SCV.

1) Those stupid Random Characters. Edgemaster was enough to begin with, and then we get another two of them + a friking Random square? Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Just look if they only made Edgemaster you'd have room for Zasalamel + Talim + Bogoo (Rock's son, who even had Concept art like he was going to be a char, then cut).
Okay while I agree that we shouldnt have some many mimics, they were probably put in at last minute due to time constraints.
2) They have enough DLC costumes to last you a lifetime but they couldn't add some DLC Chars? Seriously I would fork over some heavy cash to see some new Char styles.
I think more costume DLC is more likely than new characters but who knows~

3) Characters were highly imbalanced, some characters are super OP (cough viola, cough nightmare, cough a pat) and some characters like Ezio and Damp can barely even get in a single mixup (Unless your really good like Oofmatic).
None of those characters are imbalanced. They all have weaknesses. Just study the match-ups and you'll be alright.

4) The 17 year skip is complete bull. Taki is 46 but needs a replacement, Mitsurugi also 46 but can still fight? Siegfried is 40, and can still swing a sword the size of a couch around like butter? Voldo is 67 years old.....67...he's good to go, why isn't Taki?
No opinion on this :p
5) Agol, Viola, and Devil Jin don't belong here. Agol died something like 21 times....how the hell did he get here? Viola has combos so long she should be considered for Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 4, and Devil Jin just feels really out of place without any weapons in his hands.
Algol,Viola do belong since they're part of the story. DJ should just GTFO. Like seriously.
6) Just Guard should simply be removed. Soul Calibur has a magical guarding system already, It's called a Guard Impact. Every Character should be given at least 1 Auto GI, it's the perfect Risk/Reward Mechanic.
There's a whole thread on this.
7) Finally, you do not know how sad I was, when I popped in my SCV disk for the first time, and found out that there was no team battle. Team battle rocks! How could they not include it!!!
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I feel your pain on the Team Battle :( I was also sad there wasnt any Museum mode.
Hello there Im Pyrrus nice to meet you ~

Oh and have fun jtdam09~!
 
FleshMasher said:
Or at least rename it to SCV complaint thread II or sumthin.
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The words "sequel, prequel, reboot, retcon" sort of gave it away, especially since this is the first SC game to shift towards a next generation skip, rather than a few years, and months, like they have previously done.
 
DevilsDisguise said:
Same typical thing Talim/Seung Mina would say. Nothing about that was actually a personal reflection as you claim. Nice try. However, do I think Zwei is boring or generic? No.
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Did you even read his bio? It said everywhere he went, whispers spread about him like wildfire of a strange beast he summons, werewolf, corpses follows his wake. Don't you think Zwei would know how the malfested would feel? Those three minutes emphasize that he knew things in this world wasn't black and white and is reason why he's not happy with Patroklos's rejection of his sister since she's malfested. Even with the super short story mode, it should be obvious.

As for the Pattie Cake thing, I just wished they had him start off with Setsuka's moveset if they were going in that direction in the first place. Better than having 3 swords and shields styles but whatever, it's done and done. Time to move on and wait for the next game.
*I had hoped for Set to come back or at least a 'geisha' replacement though. (>V_V)
 
You know guys, even not liking the story much...I understand why most are against a reboot.
After I saying "What about if we reboot this thread." I realize how much work people had in this thread trying to make solid arguments and make sense, would be unfair just throw away everyone hard work like this, I guess now I don't hope for a reboot, I just hope PS hard work show some good things soon.
 
Ok that was my bad, when Sc5 was coming out they showed pencil sketches of the characters on facebook and while rotating through them it looked as if the picture of Bangoo holding a bow next to rock were part of the Sc4 pictures that were already posted, before the Sc5 ones were posted. (See below)


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As for Agol, I'm quite confused here I could swear that Darth Vader, Apprentice, and several others ended his life. Who's endings were canon in sc4?

@Pyrrus None of those characters are imbalanced. They all have weaknesses. Just study the match-ups and you'll be alright.
I realize they have weakness, and the only real problem I have viola. I play Cervy, and I can't tell you how frustrating it is when you can't Auto Gi half her attacks because they somehow whiff, then the next thing you know your in some long combo, rung out, or on the rare occasion caught in an infinite grab.
 
1san said:
Who's endings were canon in sc4?
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No one's ending in SCIV was really canon. Basically, all that happened at the end of that game was that battle between Siegfried and Nightmare and SE got 'destroyed' and scattered throughout the world and back to Astral Chaos. After defeating her father, Ivy saw the rift or something and that's why she's conducting research on Astral Chaos in SCV. Hilde's ending was sorta cannon since she forgave him and their sworn allies in SCV lol.
 
1san said:
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Ah I understand. She can be very frustrating to play against, especially against with people who know what they're doing. It's like oh hoho you think you can attack? how about no. Here's some 6B+K for you >:D -_-.
 
DevilsDisguise said:
I guess you missed the part in the live interview where someone asked if Setsuka was in the game and PS/Namco they said no but promised a "similar" moveset for the fans.
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Then why are you inferring that this is a negative, or that they are trolling the fanbase in some kind of malicious fashion, other than it's just your "opinion"?

As far as I *know* from the development process of the game, A.Pat was ALWAYS intended to have Setsuka's style from inception to release. I knew that as of July of 2011. They didn't "last minute" it. They didn't troll the fanbase. They made a design choice. Get over it.
 
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