Ring
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There's also 214K ( now at least -15 on block). She still has old SW 1B, the input is now 11B but no long range version (WP 1B) this time.
Ivy SCIV->SCV Changes
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There's also 214K ( now at least -15 on block). She still has old SW 1B, the input is now 11B but no long range version (WP 1B) this time.
kerrod123
[10] Knight
214K has really gone down hill now then...its more unsafe and crap damage too,ugh
i agree with trace something defintly seems to be wrong with this ivy,theres no reasoning for her to be how she is currently and i doubt there just going to suddenly make her a lot better by the next build
they probably are done with her now and were nearly done ,when the last build was out,i dont know ofcourse,just what i think,if theres next to nothing new on her on this build then we will know
unless theres something we dont find until release that makes her magically strong,i dont think there will be
Trace_afj
[12] Conqueror
Oh I didn´t knew about 11B, but 214K is now bK isn´t it? -15?! LOL and it doesn´t have +frames on hit right? :S
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
In all honesty, I think I'm okay if Ivy's sucky this game.. It kinda balances out that Tira's been beefed up. They've switched places. :b
Ring
Lay still now
Oh, sorry! I still can't get used to the new inputs.
Yeah, it's bK. It's heavily punishable by some characters (Pyrrha, Patroklos...) and negative on hit, of course. The only positive change is that the move appears to catch all rolls but this change is not worth the block disadvantage in my opinion.... it should have stayed the way it was in SCIV or BD.
Davo87
[09] Warrior
For those that dont kno, the version Ring played is exactly the same as TGS build but with added chars. So any considered changes have yet to be made. Tago-san just confirmed this in the recent interview with Kayane and Keysona.
kerrod123
[10] Knight
ok lets hope for a good amount of nice changes,id be happy if they decreased how much some things are nerfed definitly
does she still have any stuns that can make long combos anymore like SW 3K stun?hopefully they will make atleast one of those stuns not make the enemy fall straight to the floor
Violent Vodka
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Can B+K (former 66A+B) connect after 3{K}?
Ring
Lay still now
Not a chance. The stun is too short.
Trace_afj
[12] Conqueror
WoW! very good idea, 3[K] stun should be longer... just imagine 3[K] B+K lick BE would be a fantastic combo *o* and also not very damaging because 3[K] is a stun and the scale DMG would rule in the combo.
Ring
Lay still now
In SC3 you could easily get 80+ dmg from the charged kick.
Even if B+K will not be guaranteed, 1K will probably work as a tech trap, so when people will be afraid of moving you go out with B+K, haha.
Even if B+K will not be guaranteed, 1K will probably work as a tech trap, so when people will be afraid of moving you go out with B+K, haha.
Violent Vodka
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If it was the same stun from SC3, would it? I saw videos, and you were able to walk backwards and do 1B+K. That would be a cool use for the B+K now that A+B.A is broken.
Ring
Lay still now
Yeah, that would probably work but I think they shortened the stun on purpose so that you can't get too much damage from this move. I'm happy that the kick is at least positive on block.
It was super strong in SC3/SC3:AE, close to imba even.
It was super strong in SC3/SC3:AE, close to imba even.
Violent Vodka
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It makes sense, shortening it. It'd be just like replacing A+B.A+K with something better. What is guaranteed after it?
kerrod123
[10] Knight
hey ring,does ivy still have any long/long-ish combos anymore ones like SW 6B or 3B CL 214B SE 1B+K CL4B CL 246B does she not have anything long like that or anything over a few hits,any good combos she has like that anymore i was wondering? same with ones from WP 1B,66B,3A etc
do all of her stuns like SW 3B still just make the enemy fall to the floor?
i guess in general what im asking is she quite a combo character like she was in 4 anymore,im guessing no...same with she doesnt really fight at different ranges anymore,since her long range moves now suck
do all of her stuns like SW 3B still just make the enemy fall to the floor?
i guess in general what im asking is she quite a combo character like she was in 4 anymore,im guessing no...same with she doesnt really fight at different ranges anymore,since her long range moves now suck
Ring
Lay still now
No, she's like SC3 Ivy combo wise. Combos are shorter and 90% of them need a CH. Also most of her moves do not stun anymore. The longest combo I found on PGW was CH 22_88A, 66B BE, 6B8 BE. Requires 100% critical gauge and it's super flashy.
You mean after 3[K]? I always used 1B+K, seemed to do more damage than bK.
You mean after 3[K]? I always used 1B+K, seemed to do more damage than bK.
Violent Vodka
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I'm assuming 1B+K.. or is 7 B+K? ...doesn't pick up a grounded enemy anymore?
Rezildur
[09] Warrior
Well hopefully the things they are changing now are what they've seen in the wishlist that was already submitted.
I been basing my list off of what w have seen in SCV. The request from the wishlist might not hold weight with the Ivy we have as of right now, so i figured its better to go from what they have given us then base the things that need to be improved off that. Mine should be up this afternoon.
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