Ivy SCIV->SCV Changes

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Hard to say. CL214B is i19 in SC4, an so is SW 214K. Why wouldn't the stomp work now? Either it's slower or they changed the recovery of 22K. Maybe there's nothing guaranteed after the sweep, we'll see.
 
I wouldn't mind this if 22K was actually a tad bit faster... somewhere along the ballpark of Yoshi's cr 3K.
 
From balance standpoint that would result in a very imba low attack (which is already very good in SC4): unseeable super TC low sweep that kills step and is almost safe against most characters. They would have to trade something for the speed, preferably damage or block recovery.
 
Ivy was and is my fav. character among the originals. In SC4 they made her a little more slower than SC3 an made her have another stance which made 4 which is too much and too many. shit i cant keep up. if i press the wrong damn button by accident if i do a combo then that means i'm back at square one. All she needs is to be more easier to use like what Tago-San said. If someone new to playing the game person wants to do a move with a bunch of got damn buttons(Calamity Symphony, & Summon Suffering) than he might as not like her . So if they make her easier to use then she won't be so damn hard to use.(sorry for the long paragraph or whatever the hell).
 
http://kotaku.com/5840125/ivy-jiggles-her-way-to-defeat-in-this-soul-calibur-v-gameplay-footage

Some notable moves:

SS is confirmed as a brave edge and does pathetic damage
CL 33BBBBB is back
WP 6B+K2_8 is back
WP 66A+B seems to be back (at 0:19)
There seems to be old SW 6B, CL 6B and WP 6B+K present at the same time. Probably they changed the input of these.
WS A+B is back :)

I might be wrong but 22K looks slower to my eye.

Thanks to JayShadow for providing the link.
 
well that video doesnt look very promising for ivy just like the last one
she hasnt really done anything great yet
SS damage is pathetic especially because its a BE-then again because anyone can pull it off because its not the SS input anymore i guess its fair? i think its weak but im trying to think of non ivy players
if there is still the normal input for SS which gives 90 dmg? aswell then the weak damge would be ok for the BE since that version will be accessible to most people

maybe its because the players havent really looked at the moves available but so far it doesnt look good to me,looks like a lot of more unique moves may have been removed due to her shortage of stances and she could be left with things more like the kicks and normal moves weve seen.
i cant see that happening though,but i can see a lot of moves ending up cut just because theyve removed her multi stances to simplify her

if they cant fit the moves in them they should add another stance!
its not just that i hate it but this just seems so gormless and braindead to me what they will probably end up doing to ivy

if another stance would make it too confusing for people which i really cant see why it should when you just have to learn it like anyone else,then they can just make the way you go to the stances simple and more open

ill wait for it to be done until i judge however but when it comes out it will be too late to change her..
 
stonewall34 said:
I don't see why you guys are complaining about the changes to Ivy, shes a broken character' Her style is entirely based on tech-traps, odds are she is still like this on soulcalibur 5. IMO she is the cheapest character on soulcalibur and before you call me a noob or a scrub you should know i've had alot of experience with Ivy tech-trap players their all equally annoying. No one respects Ivy tech-trap players they are number one on the kicklist.
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Ivy doesnt involve a lot of tech traps in actual gameplay. Ivy is NOT cheap. Most of her tech traps are easy to get away from. Some tech traps could be blocked. All tech traps you can not tech for. No one respects people that tech for tech traps constantly and doesn't learn. No, "Ivy tech-trap players" are not # 1 on the kicklist. Also the people that boot them are just scared scrubs that dont know how to get away from tech traps and thing ROs and spam are cheap.
 
I'm not sure I like how Ivy's move set is looking since it kinda looks like they took a lot of her moves away. I hope she's only looking bad because the people in these videos that play Ivy don't know how to use her otherwise things are not looking good. Only thing SC5 Ivy has going for it is a cool looking Critical Edge (besides her new outfit)

Another thing I'm not liking is the announcer's voice. It just seems too quiet or something, I don't know how to describe it.

I am still hopeful for the best but I'm still leery as to how SC5 will be by the time it's released.
 
im thinking ivy is gonna be a lot less powerful than she was in previous games.

less ivy friendly system + apparent lack of her best range control moves + nerfed up close pokes (hope that 3B at least launches on normal hit, does anybody remember the one from sc2 that combos into stomp for like a measly 40 damage?)

could this all = bad ivy?

we'll have to wait and see.
 
Old CL 3B launches on NH, but not high enough to combo for decent damage. For that, you need a CH.

I remember SC2 3B (2A+B I think), but you could combo it into air throw for more damage. Still not as much as CH 3B, CL 4B, SW 214K :)
 
its like seeing ivy lose quite easily in the videos is just a showing that she wont be good in v or atleast not as good as she should be
she hasnt done anything good at all really against the enemy in those videos,there making her look bad,which she might be now though
on the 1st vid when we saw CS there was no one like ooh!like usual there was just silence,we really need a new animation for the throws,or atleast make the colours different like SC3 there all the same again,how boring
do the devs not have any creative ideas at all,theres loads of things we think of that are so cool and likewise on other wishlists for SCV my tira one and the discussions
im sure everyone has great ideas for the characters that just wont be added,all the characters could be made better
with it still been fair theyd just need to test all the new things
 
kerrod123 said:
its like seeing ivy lose quite easily in the videos is just a showing that she wont be good
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No, no! Don't base your opinion on those videos - clearly the players don't know what they are doing.

I always said we need a different animation for CS/SS. Something like this would do:


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As much as I hated SC3 because of the balance, the fact that I never won any competition nor FT10 against Di, I still have great memories of that game and enjoyed its period more than SC4 =)
 
that video was so strange!
i wasnt expecting that at all
how do you even make that happen!?
i saw SS been done from SE but how do you get her to float updside down like that??
and yeah i noticed the other videos with those two we see are crap whoever they play as
so its hard to judge,i wish we got some more info on ivy so if she may actually turn out bad after all because of what theyve decided,we could tell them,its all just speculative
ill go back to talking on the main SCV ivy discussion thread after this
 
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