Lethal Hits In SCVI

[Frayhua]

For those who have seen SCVI gameplay within 2 months after the game's announcement notice moves that have special rewards under various conditions like CH, Whiff Punishing, Duck Punishing, aGI, etc. It's called Lethal Hit. The rewards include: Certain CHs turn into launchers or launch higher than usually for combos, increased stun time & Armor Destruction.

If you know about Lethal Hits for characters not cover in this thread, please post in this thread.

Sophitia

Spoiler

CH 66A+B - Becomes a Launcher

CH A+B - Bypass Opponent's RE

AS K - Duck Punish a High Attack or use as a Whiff Punish

DAS B - Duck Punish a High Attack or use as a Whiff Punish

Mitsurugi

Spoiler

3B - Use on a Crouching Opponent

22_88A - Use as a Whiff Punish

B6 - Long stun time so 66A+B can combo

1A - Becomes a Launcher

CH WS B - 2B Followup Guarenteed For Combos

A+B - Bypass Opponent's RE

RE A - Win the 2nd clash after the 1st clash is draw

1BA+B - Bypass Opponent's RE

Groh

Spoiler

6AA - CH 6AA on the 2nd Hit/6AA is a CH Combo

22_88B - Use as a Whiff Punish

44A - aGIing Vertical Slashes & Vertical Kicks

44B - Bypass Opponent's RE

44K - Use as a Whiff Punish

RE B - Win the 2nd clash after the 1st clash is draw

Groh RE B ~ Guard Burst ~ ID A

Nightmare

Spoiler

6K - Becomes a Launcher

A+B - Revenge aGI Opponent In Soul Charge Mode

RE B - Win the 2nd clash after the 1st clash is draw

WS B - CH WS B

A+B - Bypass Opponent's RE

Xianghua

Spoiler

CH 1A - Becomes a Launcher

2A+B - aGI Opponent's Horizontals

4A+B - aGI High + Mid Horizontals & High + Mid Thrusting Verticals

6A+B - aGI ALL Mid Verticals

(A+B) - Bypass Opponent's GI

RE K - Win the 2nd clash after the 1st clash is draw

SXS K - Duck Punish a High Attack or use as a Whiff Punish

Kilik

Spoiler

214A - aGI Vertical Slashs

4B - After GIing Opponent

236 A - aGI ALL Horizontals

3B CH _ 6BB CH on 2nd Hit Only

22_88(B) Series - Bypass Opponent's RE

 

[MichaelJackson]

For those who have seen SCVI gameplay within 2 months...

u da reel mvp AGAIN

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I'm interested to see the other characters' Lethal hits and how they effect their gameplay. Like, the new Mitsu combo with B~6, 66A+B, that is SICK looking and I use B~6 all the time just for the style points of crowning someone.

I am super hype for this damn game, but I have to restrain myself because who knows how long it'll take to come out.

 

[HogisGuy]

This was really cool. Good work. Gonna be fun to experiment with when i train on combos haha

 

[Hayate]

@Frayhua
Just to correct
"214A - aGI Horizontal Slashs"
214 always been for vertical slash, and it seems to aGI Mitsu's B in the GIF.

Good work anyways!

 

[Frayhua]

@Frayhua
Just to correct
"214A - aGI Horizontal Slashs"
214 always been for vertical slash, and it seems to aGI Mitsu's B in the GIF.

Good work anyways!

Fixed

 

[linkorz]

All break attacks lethal hit if they crush a GI or RE

 

[AndyrooSC]

Dam so Rugi has also 1BA+B for a punish against RE as if his new 1BB move wasn't good enough lol

 

[Frayhua]

Dam so Rugi has also 1BA+B for a punish against RE as if his new 1BB move wasn't good enough lol

Xianghua's aGIs are Lethal Hits and is OPed.

 

[Nyawu]

I'm kinda excited with wiff punishes for some moves being lethal hits. VF had minor/recovery counters way back and I always wished namco fighters explored post-wiff properties in their games. That said, having been on the receiving end of repeated tas b wiff punishes is def gonna make me wanna gitgud and not push buttons so much in the upcoming months after release lol.

 

[weshookhands]

I must say I'm starting to love the idea of Lethal Hits. It seems very rewarding to have deep knowledge on how your character's specific moveset functions. I think this mechanic isn't aiming for newcomers to the franchise but for experts. Really digging the addition of a depth mechanic for a change.

 

[Signia]

Wow this gives a lot of freedom for balancing. Now they can more easily independently adjust the strength of a character's whiff punishing, GI followups, mids used as mixups against crouching, and block punishes.

Worth noting that in SCIV Mitsu's 22A was the only move that I know of that had special properties when it was used for a whiff punish, as it did not grant a stun on NH, side hit, or CH unless it they had whiffed. A similar property was in Virtua Fighter, the Minor/Major CH system, where major CHs were like the usual CHs but minor counter hits resulted if you hit someone while they were recovering, such as in a punish or whiff punish. Some mids in VF also caused special effects on crouching only, like SC6 Mitsu's 3B.

This also allows for more expanded effective move lists. With these special LH conditions, there's more reason to use a wider variety of moves that are used based what conditions you predict will be met.

 

[AndyrooSC]

LH is defo gonna be better than the sc5 clean hit system imo.

With clean hits it was just RNG being killed because the Asta throw or Algol FC 8B BE decided to clean hit for the third time in a row lol

I just saw it as a forgotten random critical hit mechanic that helped some characters every now and again more than others.

With LH you know if ya land it or opponent lands one on you then a move was done at a right time (unless we find some glitch lol) and not because of the RNG.

 

[thenewperson]

Being on the receiving end of an attack that wouldn't have killed with clean hit but got it was quite annoying yeah.

 

[KONMAI]

Some LHs work on Run Counter as well as Counter Hit(although I think the most consistent rule is that all LHs trigger on CH). Mitsu 1A comes to mind the most.

 

[Windstar]

Lethals Hits are just like the Fatal Counters in Blazblue and some other 2D fighters. It's basically there to encourage using heavier power moves to break through quicker/safer pokes and to keep things a bit more balanced with good rewards for maintaining a balanced fighting style.

 

[WuHT]

It's basically there to encourage using heavier power moves to break through quicker/safer pokes and to keep things a bit more balanced with good rewards for maintaining a balanced fighting style.

I'd hardly call Mitsurugi's B6 a "heavier power move".