Most useless move

Bubbles, you mention 4B+K as useless, but do you honestly find much use for any of Raphael's Cantrella needles(The direction input B+K series)? It's beyond linear, character's who move naturally on neutral will evade it.
 
2B+K/8B+K are good after VE A hits

6B+K is good because of its wonky hit box

4B+K is just pointless

shitty move namco should scrap the move and give rapha decent 4B+K and not a waste of a move slot
 
Yoshi's 4B+G or 6B+G? I believe, sounds like the most useless move. I mean, why in the hell would you want your opponent to have health?
 
Xephukai said:
Looking at Cervantes' movelist- I've discovered Ak is a decent move on hit, but on block you
re at no advantage. I like it, but it's so usless a lot of the time.
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aK is one of his better pokes, doesn't belong anywhere near this list lol. PLUS it's a main combo ender for him. So even if you don't use it as an attack, it's still got it's place in combos.

Voldo dance is up there, no doubt. Hilde UB's, just go watch RTD's matches from the finals of that major in MA recently, you'll take it off this list real quick.
 
Where's the video of that Kowtow? I'm about to check his page but I dunno if it'll be on there. WTF is MA anyway? o_O.....Montana? I haven't even heard of that state in like, 4 years o_o....
 
onlywingedangel said:
Yoshi's 4B+G or 6B+G? I believe, sounds like the most useless move. I mean, why in the hell would you want your opponent to have health?
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Well its great when youre just screwing around or tryin to make someone go "what the fuck", plus when you kick their ass even after giving them health you can taunt and teabag like theres no tomorrow xD

But Knightmares 2b+k has no purpose other than showing the floor whos boss, and I think that Kiliks grab while in monument, or whatever his stance is, by itself is the weakest shit ever made
 
KowtowRobinson said:
aK is one of his better pokes, doesn't belong anywhere near this list lol. PLUS it's a main combo ender for him. So even if you don't use it as an attack, it's still got it's place in combos.

Voldo dance is up there, no doubt. Hilde UB's, just go watch RTD's matches from the finals of that major in MA recently, you'll take it off this list real quick.
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Ah, I see. I've tried to add the move to my strat, and never once thought to add it into a combo. Thanks for the advice correction.
 
ZestYCrackerS said:
um there definetely is a use for this move dude. if you manage to land his 66A+B then you can use 4B+K as theyre falling behind you. I dont know if you can air control out of it or whatever though
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It becomes BT B+K at that point so it's technically not the same. And no you can't AC after getting hit by 66A+B.
 
Well its great when youre just screwing around or tryin to make someone go "what the fuck", plus when you kick their ass even after giving them health you can taunt and teabag like theres no tomorrow xD
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That's not a use. That's like saying I just want to spam SRSH A because I'll screw around. I mean Yoshi already has a bunch of health drain (of himself) but they at least do damage. That Grab intentionally makes your lifebar less, without any +'s
 
ZestYCrackerS said:
...and I think that Kiliks grab while in monument, or whatever his stance is, by itself is the weakest shit ever made
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yea if u dont do te full grab. Both of the grabs in the stance r great for ringouts

ZestYCrackerS said:
um there definetely is a use for this move dude. if you manage to land his 66A+B then you can use 4B+K as theyre falling behind you. I dont know if you can air control out of it or whatever though
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they are better options after 66A+B, such as 33kb. it really is a useless move...
 
badass99 said:
yea if u dont do te full grab. Both of the grabs in the stance r great for ringouts



they are better options after 66A+B, such as 33kb. it really is a useless move...
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well i never use raph...at all..lol i just went and screwed around with him for a bit to find a use for this move. i agree it for the most part is very useless but i thought id throw out a use i found for it. Im sorry ill make sure to never do it again haha
 
onlywingedangel said:
That's not a use. That's like saying I just want to spam SRSH A because I'll screw around. I mean Yoshi already has a bunch of health drain (of himself) but they at least do damage. That Grab intentionally makes your lifebar less, without any +'s
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if they break the drain throw then it gives life, and if they break the give throw it takes life. not as silly as you might think.
 
I've said this in every one of these threads, 2B+K is pretty good on wakeup, especially in corners. It tracks to one side and is plus on block. That's all you need to know.

Occasionally I've thrown it out of an empty GS mixup for the surprise. I mean, it's not vital to Nightmare but it's certainly not the worst move of all time.
 
Some people think that all tauntsa are bad. Mina's TJs, Algol's TCs, and I think Cassies, might move forward which rarely useful like against Ivy's WP or SW 1_2_3B+K. She could move in to avoid it. I think the most useless, is, Hilde's 6B, B, B. Terrible.
 
TC'ing a move with Algol's taunt is the most bad ass thing you can possibly do in Soul Calibur. I actually managed to TC Cervantes' gunshot with it once. Unfortunately getting the timing for that is so hard that I could never replicate it again, even after attempting to countless times in training mode.

As for a useless move... Apprentice 3A..
 
After thinking about it, I've decided that the hands down most useless move in SC4... is Mitsu's 2K*B.

It's basically a delayed version of his regular 2KB. It's still -26 on block, still a natural combo...

... the only difference is, it doesn't knock down, and it's -16 on HIT.. and it does 8 points more damage than regular 2KB, but that doesn't matter since 2KB gives you guaranteed followups.

The only practical use is that when done on Yoda, both hits will connect, where as if you do the regular 2KB on Yoda, the B will completely whiff. But even then, since it's -16 on hit Yoda can still punish you for landing it, so it should only be done on Yoda if it guarantees a KO.

Yeah, this has to be the absolute most useless move in the game.
 
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