Pyrrha Movelist Discussion/Analysis

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Fatal_Exodus said:
She has a clumsy personality, I didn't say the throws were clumsy. She's not much of an experienced fighter, and since what she's doing seems to be working in dispatching her opponents, why change it?
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And unexperienced fighter would hit you with their eyes closed or miss easy marks, her just falling over or couche blasting isn either. If she did cassandra's > A,A,A with her head turned away then said "Are you in pain" I'd believe you.
Lasercakes said:
It's fine. You want to talk about looking unnatural? Let's talk about Sophie's B+G grab.
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If she had throws like Cassasndra's Right side throw. or her >>B+G throw THEN Id understand it, but her current grabs look just weird.
 
BadBl00dL1ne said:
And unexperienced fighter would hit you with their eyes closed or miss easy marks, her just falling over or couche blasting isn either. If she did cassandra's > A,A,A with her head turned away then said "Are you in pain" I'd believe you.
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And you would know what an inexperienced fighter would be? Inexperienced can mean a lot of things, but inexperienced =/= afraid, which is what Pyrrha is. Any inexperienced fighter could either run away like a coward or blindly rush in like an idiot, or many other things. Pyrrha's falls into the clumsy, "I need to protect myself but please don't hurt me" child trope. Seeing as she's not some seasoned warrior like her mother, aunt, or her brother (who demonstrates a lot of traditional grappling), "anything goes" for her. If jumping and crushing your opponent or losing balance and letting them fall on your blade works, it works.
 
Fatal_Exodus said:
And you would know what an inexperienced fighter would be? Inexperienced can mean a lot of things, but inexperienced =/= afraid, which is what Pyrrha is. Any inexperienced fighter could either run away like a coward or blindly rush in like an idiot, or many other things. Pyrrha's falls into the clumsy, "I need to protect myself but please don't hurt me" child trope. Seeing as she's not some seasoned warrior like her mother, aunt, or her brother (who demonstrates a lot of traditional grappling), "anything goes" for her. If jumping and crushing your opponent or losing balance and letting them fall on your blade works, it works.
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That justifies the leap frog and "fall on me" throw? No. It doesn't make sense. If you recall those throws I mentioned from cassandra, then you'd see it makes for sense actually. If I was drafted for WW3 the first thing I wouldnt do is have the enemy soldier fall on me. An inexperienced fighter would cheat to win and Cassandra's shield attacks could fit that category. If you want silly moves then Link's Booty bop throw would make sense in this case.
 
This is stupid. 66A+G is based on Sophie 66A+G which looked stupid to begin with. B+G is a joke throw. If you don't like the joke, please find a way to get over it. Don't turn my thread into a character personality/story speculation thread please.
 
I can't think of many questions or observations after watching Ramon kill everyone with Pyrrha. I did notice 44A into 2A catching quite a lot which is really nice. 6K is also confirmed to be pretty stupid on block as well. I also heard from one of the devs on stream that B+G throw could also give a "clean hit." Does anyone know what that means?

I didn't get to see Partisan play I don't think (congrats on 4th place in SC4 btw), but I do want to ask him more specifically why he is preferring Pat to Pyrrha.
 
Lasercakes said:
This is stupid. 66A+G is based on Sophie 66A+G which looked stupid to begin with. B+G is a joke throw. If you don't like the joke, please find a way to get over it. Don't turn my thread into a character personality/story speculation thread please.
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Which is ironic because there is nothing specualtive about this conversation, and these "joke" throws? you find this funny? Because Pyrrha is a hilarious character isnt she? Whats so funny about it? I dont see humor, I see "hilarious" fan service. Obviously im trying to get over it, but suggesting change.
 
"Whoops you fell on my knife" isn't quite the slipping on a banana peel into a cream pie gag, but it's still the embodiment of slapstick. Whether you like it or not, it's very clearly a joke, just like sentences that begin with "Knock knock", and follow with "Who's there", are also certain to be a joke.
 
Lasercakes said:
"Whoops you fell on my knife" isn't quite the slipping on a banana peel into a cream pie gag, but it's still the embodiment of slapstick. Whether you like it or not, it's very clearly a joke, just like sentences that begin with "Knock knock", and follow with "Who's there", are also certain to be a joke.
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Nope, Cassandra's Right-side throw is slapstick, the "oops fall on me and get hurt" crap is fan service.
 
There was also this posted in the character speculation thread:

GrayGuy7 said:
......Well, did anyone else catch that at the end of the match between Dirty-D [Daishi] and Ramon on the 8WR NEC stream, durin' Utoh's and Bibulus's conversation about how Pyrrha's like Sophie without TAS B, Utoh pretty much confirmed that a character with Sophie TAS like double dashes will be revealed next month? Hmmmm......I wonder who that will be....?:sc4sop1:

Here's the vid link:
http://www.twitch.tv/8wayrun/b/301606607
It's on part 2 of the video, at 24:00
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I don't think Pyrrha will have this or she would have it already. It may or may not have to do with Pyrrha directly, but I think the people most interested in playing her would also find this extremely interesting.
 
Fuzzieviking said:
3. Do you think pyrrha needs to be nerfed?
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Heeeellll no. If they're gonna leave Siegfried alone then no one has the right to panic over these Pyrrha matches.

Those matches didn't show how Pyrrha was overpowered but rather just how good a player Ramon was. He adapted beautifully to Hilde, for example.

Lasercakes said:
There was also this posted in the character speculation thread:

I don't think Pyrrha will have this or she would have it already. It may or may not have to do with Pyrrha directly, but I think the people most interested in playing her would also find this extremely interesting.
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He could be talking about Aeon/Lizardman. He didn't say it was an unannounced character with that ability.
 
bojack13 said:
Heeeellll no. If they're gonna leave Siegfried alone then no one has the right to panic over these Pyrrha matches.
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Siegfried and Maxi I think are getting a damage nerf, but not a frame nerf. When Ramon won the SCV tournament they said they wouldn't nerf Pyrrha.

He could be talking about Aeon/Lizardman. He didn't say it was an unannounced character with that ability.
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The devs also didn't say they wouldn't give Pyrrha lizard crawl. I would like to think that the design choices the devs make are based in reason. They wouldn't give Nightmare's A+B or 33B or Grimstride to Siegfried either even though they are originally derived around the same style. I can't directly dispute what you say, but I'm gonna put my faith in Namco and say there's no way they could fuck up so badly and give TAS B to a completely unrelated character. The owner of TAS B will be Sophie, or will have a good reason for having it.

Edit: If you cited Liz's new angel wings and said, "maybe he'll get angel step lol", I'd have less of a reason to shoot you down.
 
Aeshma said:
It´s like you´ve never seen some of Sophitia´s throws before.
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No, they just arent as outlandish compared to hers. The only obseen throw Sophitia has off the top of my head is heaven's arch aka. Fanservice Arch, her headscissors, spinning sheild bop are far from atypical.
 
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