Pyrrha Ω Gameplay Discussion / Q&A

Suirad

[10] Knight
Post discussion and questions about Ω Pyrrha's game play here .

This thread will remain locked until SCV's release.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
I'm going to try and get some frames down for Ω, I'll be adding stuff for a while probably, feel free to keep checking it.

/edit/ Moved the frames to the sticky now.
 

Kane

oh riri
erm ... standing B got faster by 1 frame? ... I doubled checked w/ sc4's frame data and it was i15 for sophi
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
yeah, happened for both Ω and pyrrha, mitsu apparently got bumped two frames from i17 to i15
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Alright, post general game-play related discussion points here from this point forward.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Yeah idk, it does look pretty lackluster so far, good techtrap set-ups seem to be largely gone too.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Alright, looking into combos now, suggestions appreciated.
NC
AA
1AA
4[A]A
4[A]B
BB

NCC
4AB
6BB
6B BE
2BB
2B BE
B+KB{4_:4}
2B+KBBB

0 Guage
CH 4AB > DNS B
4[A]A > 3B > DNS B 102
WR B > DNS B 57
CH 6K > DNS B
CH 1K > 44B+K
WR [A+B] > DNS B 61
4B+K > DNS B 74
8B+K(quake stun) > 44K > DNS B 49
22A > 44K 42
66B > DNS B 63
66B > B+K > 3B 63 (may be JUable)
33B > BT B+K 44
33B > DNS B 62
44B > DNS B 55
CH 44K > DNS B
NS K > DNS B 49

1 Guage
4[A]A > CE 124
4B+K > CE 127
8B+K(quake stun) > CE 80
NS A > CE 98
 

Sadrabbit

Team Serious
NS A > NS B:4 75
33K > DNS B 51
22B > DNS B 69
44B+K > DNS B 65 (close range, proximity to wall or edge needed)

CH 1K > DNS B 57
CH 4K > DNS B:4 94 (timing on this one is so strict. I would recommend just using NS B:4 for 76)

CH 6B BE > DNS B 73

CH 4K > CE 99

Couple tech traps:
44B+K > 66B will launch on forward or right tech and hits no tech
CH 1K > 33B will launch on all but left tech but whiffs on no tech
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Probably not rush-down, but I'm not sure how gauge pressure works into that yet.
 

Aragh

[09] Warrior
here are a few more

4B > CE (111)
4B > 44B+K (53)
4B > DNS B (59)
88A > 2K (41)
WR K > 2K 30 ukemi able to left, sorry
CH 44K > 44B+K (59)
22B close range > 1K (~60)
22B > DNS B (69-71) timing is strict, not sure if its not angle or range dependant
8B+K tremor CE (80)

EDIT: added a few more
 

Minerva_SC

[09] Warrior
can you get the 4 follow up off a 236236A, 236B if the 236B is just framed? I've been trying and it doesn't seem like it. my timing could be off though.
 

Aragh

[09] Warrior
i found a funny thing today: try doing 3B W! NS B4 NS B combo. During the second NS B opponent will reset to neutral standing position while omegas animation of pulling her sword out of them will still continue.

As for combos, heres another
4[A]B DNS B (85)
8B+K tremor NS B:4 (50) - DNS B may be possible, Elysium does it in legendary souls
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
8B+K tremor is a 16 frame stun so DNS B should be possible, albeit difficult.

Also of interest the 2nd hit of 6BB stuns if in a stun combo or if the 2nd hit counter hits seperately. While the stun is shakable, it nevertheless seems to guarantee CE.
 

Suirad

[10] Knight
Thanks for all the input guys, it's helped a lot. I've posted many of these combos in the combo thread now.

can you get the 4 follow up off a 236236A, 236B if the 236B is just framed? I've been trying and it doesn't seem like it. my timing could be off though.
Now that I understand your question, yes that should work. From what some people have posted I suspect that you might not need the JF against some characters and I know that depending on ring position and your position to opponent when hitting NS_DNS A you may not need it either.
 

Talon

[08] Mercenary
Question.

Does DNS B on tip hit cause the same unshakable stun as SCIV TAS B?

I cant test this until I get my copy (12 hours)