SC Controversial Topics and General Shitposting Thread

SSfox said:
Holy fuck, there are rumors talking about WB games would be bought by EA, activation or Take 2

Damn somebody save Rocksteady from being bought by some trash, the 3 Batman games were all Masterpieces.

PS: NRS are good, but i didn't like the fact that they gone woke with MK11, so i care less about them, but if somebody can save and do great MK games, i'm all in.
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I don't know, it seems to me that Take 2 would be a decent steward of WB Games (whatever they end up being called after the fact); maybe I am just not up on the most recent developments over recent years, but Take 2 has always had a pretty healthy relationship with it's developers and allowed them creative freedom without much interference to foist nickel and dimeing features into their games? I mean, at least, it's hard for me to lump them in with EA and Activision, who are clearly the two worst actors in the industry in this regard. Anyway, I am kind of suspicious of this rumour anyway, WB is a media conglomerate and having invested a lot of money into WBIE in order to direct develop products based on their own IP rather licensing it out, I'm not sure it makes much sense for them to sell it now, when from all indications it has been pretty profitable.

It would also be a complicated sell for any company large enough to consider the purchase, since a lot of the IP in the portfolio is tied to licenses of property that WB is going to retain ownership of: it would be very complex to work out the licenses for continued publication of existing games, let alone further entries in those franchises. Companies do get over those aversions at times and make the deal work if one is very committed to streamlining their corporate structure and assets and another sees enough potential profit, but even so, this one would really surprise me.

DanteSC3 said:
no Yakuza aside from 7 later this year is... not so good. I don't have any plans to play 7 before 3-6, not sure why they're doing it in this way.
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Because they stand to make much more money from a new release than from any one port. I mean, they're not going to indefinitely postpone a new game in the franchise and the maintenance of forward momentum until they have all the older games in the franchise on all current platforms. I mean, since when has any company approached such a situation in that manner? A long-running series always gets stretched across numerous platforms, and while that's changing a little now (the industry is bending increasingly towards the nostalgia/perfect collection impulse), I don't find it particularly surprising that they are moving ahead with the most recent entry before lining up remasters of all previous titles. Then again, I'm not super familiar with the development and publication history of the Yakuza franchise, so maybe there are other factors here I just don't get which are informing your surprise.
 
Rusted Blade said:
Because they stand to make much more money from a new release than from any one port. I mean, they're not going to indefinitely postpone a new game in the franchise and the maintenance of forward momentum until they have all the older games in the franchise on all current platforms. I mean, since when has any company approached such a situation in that manner? A long-running series always gets stretched across numerous platforms, and while that's changing a little now (the industry is bending increasingly towards the nostalgia/perfect collection impulse), I don't find it particularly surprising that they are moving ahead with the most recent entry before lining up remasters of all previous titles. Then again, I'm not super familiar with the development and publication history of the Yakuza franchise, so maybe there are other factors here I just don't get which are informing your surprise.
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You have people like me who haven't and never plan to play the games on PlayStation to consider, and that's at least a part of if not a decent chunk of the target audience for PC players of Yakuza, to be sure. I understand that new games coming out are inherently better at profits than otherwise, and (as far as I understand it, since I'm pretty anti-spoilers and trying to keep my experience as pure as possible) Yakuza 7 isn't a direct sequel in the series like the rest, it's still a bit unwieldy to someone who is playing the games in order and then there to be a sudden gap. I do think it's nice that Yakuza 7 is getting a simultaneous release to consoles, that's well and good, but there is definitely reason for them to bring the rest to PC as well, and at least getting an outline of their plans would be a good thing. I'm sure I'm not the only one who won't be buying Yakuza 7 on launch because Yakuza 3-6 aren't out on PC yet.

The people who probably will be doing so will be people who already played the rest on PS3/PS4 or are more casual/impulse buyers, which is where the profits are, no doubts, so it makes business sense, but Yakuza Kiwami 2 also came out last year, and they could have definitely at least gotten the Yakuza 3-5 Collection out by now, if not planning to get Yakuza 6 out soon too, either just before or at the same time as Yakuza 7. I know I have a personal stake in my own reasoning for it, I'm just casting doubt that I'm the only one who feels this way.
 
DanteSC3 said:
Yeah pretty much, disappointment is the word of the day. It's nice to have Persona 4 Golden, opens doors for the future, but no Yakuza aside from 7 later this year is... not so good. I don't have any plans to play 7 before 3-6, not sure why they're doing it in this way. I will play P4G though, as soon as I'm done with Little Busters!, which I'm currently playing. I never 100%'d the game on Vita, because, well... it was on Vita.

I've heard there's leaks that Persona 3 Portable will also be coming in the nearish future (...soon?), but I'm not so excited about that. FES is better than P3P...

But it begs the question why they went with Persona 4 instead of Persona 5. Persona 5 Royal coming to PC would have been huge, especially if they also decided to bring Persona 5 Scramble along for the ride, that would have been very nice. Not that they still can't do that, but... yeah.
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they are gonna take their sweet time with Persona 5 royal so they can soak up ps4 sales. As for yakuza 3,4,5 perhaps they have a 1 year exclusivity thing for ps4? That would mean the fall would lead to some releases but I'm not confident.

They may just come to pc on a whim whenever sega feels like it.
 
Dissidia said:
they are gonna take their sweet time with Persona 5 royal so they can soak up ps4 sales. As for yakuza 3,4,5 perhaps they have a 1 year exclusivity thing for ps4? That would mean the fall would lead to some releases but I'm not confident.

They may just come to pc on a whim whenever sega feels like it.
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I mean maybe sure, but as I just noted responding to RB, Yakuza 7 is getting a simultaneous launch on consoles and PC, so it's weird to me that they would get limited time exclusivity for one and then turn around and simultaneous release for the next one. I'm not saying they didn't do that, it just seems silly.
 
DanteSC3 said:
I mean maybe sure, but as I just noted responding to RB, Yakuza 7 is getting a simultaneous launch on consoles and PC, so it's weird to me that they would get limited time exclusivity for one and then turn around and simultaneous release for the next one. I'm not saying they didn't do that, it just seems silly.
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At the end of the day, you need to remember its SEGA. If they were known for their good decisions we would be on the SEGA Uranus console by now
 
Dissidia said:
they are gonna take their sweet time with Persona 5 royal so they can soak up ps4 sales. As for yakuza 3,4,5 perhaps they have a 1 year exclusivity thing for ps4? That would mean the fall would lead to some releases but I'm not confident.

They may just come to pc on a whim whenever sega feels like it.
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DanteSC3 said:
I mean maybe sure, but as I just noted responding to RB, Yakuza 7 is getting a simultaneous launch on consoles and PC, so it's weird to me that they would get limited time exclusivity for one and then turn around and simultaneous release for the next one. I'm not saying they didn't do that, it just seems silly.
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I think another factor here is that the number of people waiting for those older games to come to the PC is probably relatively small, compared to the overall market share for the franchise: open world/martial arts action games aren't exactly a genre that has traditionally sold particularly well on those platforms when compared against consoles. Again, this is something that is increasingly changing, but I still think there is nothing particularly surprising or atypical in how they approaching this.

Dissidia said:
At the end of the day, you need to remember its SEGA. If they were known for their good decisions we would be on the SEGA Uranus console by now
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Well, Sega is the same company as that which released the Dreamcast in name only: its business model, its product line, its holdings, and its key personel are all drastically different, so I don't think it makes much sense to think of their decisions int he same light as those made more than twenty years ago by different people in a different time.

And again, I don't think what we are talking about here is a bad business decision at all: I think it probably makes perfect sense for them based on the likely figures their market research has shown them, and I'd bet if you magically swapped in any quality, knowledgeable executives from a different company, they would have made largely the same decisions. There's just limited value to releasing a comprehensive collection of every previous game in the series on the platform it sells least well on before they release the next big budget entry in the series. It's clearly a valuable property and I'm sure the full collection is coming to PC in time, but sitting around on their next big money maker until they've satisfied the collector's urge / established the ability to play all of the games on every major platform first just would not make good business sense. So I'd argue they are making the "good decision" here.
 
Found this old pic and it cracked me up. “Bongo” has me dying!

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Crash X said:
She’s not wrong though. Because Nyte’s antics at the very least create a goldmine of hilarity and memes with all the trouble he gets into.
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I'm telling you guys--if you summon him back here, he's your problem! I'm not spending five hours a month confronting his fever dreams again: whoever brings him back, he's your pet, so enjoy!

However...it would give new definition to the phrase "We are benyted.." Get it? Because be...niiii...? Aw, I'm so punny...
 
Rusted Blade said:
I'm telling you guys--if you summon him back here, he's your problem! I'm not spending five hours a month confronting his fever dreams again: whoever brings him back, he's your pet, so enjoy!

However...it would give new definition to the phrase "We are benyted.." Get it? Because be...niiii...? Aw, I'm so punny...
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Indeed, we must be careful not to mention The Evil One by his true name! 🤫 I shall cease and desist to help protect us...
And don't worry, I got that pun, my dude! It was quite punny!
 
Rusted Blade said:
I'm telling you guys--if you summon him back here, he's your problem! I'm not spending five hours a month confronting his fever dreams again: whoever brings him back, he's your pet, so enjoy!

However...it would give new definition to the phrase "We are benyted.." Get it? Because be...niiii...? Aw, I'm so punny...
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You say that now, and you’ll end up getting involved in another mess of his in the future should he return.

It’s not that big of a deal anyway. Besides, the mods could always just delete his whining arguments and infract him if he ends up going too far again.
 
Dissidia said:
The most brilliant entrepreneur of 2019. Selling tap water (I hope) and calling it her "bathwater" to thousands (I hope not) of weirdos.
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In all fairness, she's a marketing genius. Don't like her, but I can appreciate that troll that made my friends cry 😂
 
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