Combos
And you honestly think that no one is gonna get up and just let you keep hitting them with this despite how little damage it does? That you need a threat of a ring out or time? Chances are if you hit them with a stun combo that leads into this, more than 1/3 of their health bar is gone. You are talking about a VERY specific situation that happens probably %15 of time where your health is close to zero, the clock is running out, and they somehow have a lot more health than you which would lead them into not guarding. All other times, if they keep letting themselves get launched then they should quit playing Soul Calibur IV altogether.
Also consider that 8B+K is also a threat that hits them grounded, can't be rolled and leave you with a BT mixup if done a certain way. You don't even need constant 33KB attacks to make them get up.
Ive said in the other thread that once someone catches on to how little damage it is, they *
could* make it nearly impossible for you to know how many 33KBs before they block unless theres a threat to make them fear one too many reiterations..which would be walls, ring outs, time limit, or a small amount of remaining life.
That doesnt mean they *
will* as you have pointed out, especially since US players are infamous for impatience. So if nobody ever does stay neutral for ridiculously long, or didnt catch a glimpse of their life bar cause theyre busy flipping out about the OMG infinite loop!1, then great, thats dandy for us, but dont get on me with that "do you honestly" attitude for pointing out a way this thing can get screwed over:
How in the world would you have a practical mix up game if someone allowed anywhere from 2-6 (or however many to reach a wall/edge) 33KBs to hit with minimal life loss before they blocked? Why would a person doing this need to be shunned off soul calibur for being patient enough to wreck your mixup? Why are you so butthurt at me for pointing out a flaw that the game originally misrepresented? Why should I bother posting the accurate workings of these sort of things when this is the treatment I get for bothering to share something with the community? I may have offered my opinion in saying "not particularly threatening" because I assumed that most people on this board would be thinking the same when evaluating degenerating bursts of single digit values in a health pool of ~232. and the part about reliance on other factors holds true if someone had been experienced enough or observant enough to catch on, and I apologize for not appending that and not being super absolutely perfectly clear about what I meant.
also I actually have considered 8B+K: it also gets diminishing returns and you would have to wait a bit before it wont, and by then itd be completely telegraphed and the opponentd have rolled around or something. But you got a good point, its not that bad when done with the diminished return in order to get the BT mixup
so this suits well as an alternative, but the issue I was more concerned about was setting the record straight about this "relaunch"
