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[13] Hero
You mean Lili?
SCV- New CHARACTER ideas
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DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
The italian character is ready,i've just to choose a name :D
The new guy that they added looks almost exactly like Lucio. did you see it?
Gatsu
[14] Master
No please,don't do this to me
Hair,maybe
Hair,maybe
Gatsu
[14] Master
Don't take it wrong i like new things i seen of SC5, like redesign of Sieg,Mitsu and partially Ivy.
Patroklos is'nt bad,and Pyrrah do her works.
Even Natsu that was ridicolous childish and marketing for otaku gain many points ingame
But this Zwei seem to me only boring,probably the one i like less
Dark biker with black white hairs and vampiric "cool" attitude... seem the prototype to send the 12 years kid into "omg zo cool" mode
But again, i like 5 on 7 characters showed,is'nt bad.
Patroklos is'nt bad,and Pyrrah do her works.
Even Natsu that was ridicolous childish and marketing for otaku gain many points ingame
But this Zwei seem to me only boring,probably the one i like less
Dark biker with black white hairs and vampiric "cool" attitude... seem the prototype to send the 12 years kid into "omg zo cool" mode
But again, i like 5 on 7 characters showed,is'nt bad.
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
Shaka Jah looks too stereotypical to me. Its bad enough black people are thought of that way even now. Zas is great as his is and unexpected. I want to see a young black female that isnt from the jungle and actually sophisticated like Lili in Tekken and use a good new needed weapon like Link in SC2.
Habast
[12] Conqueror
I love those characters. They need to make it in, or characters like them. Shaka Jah does look a bit stereotypical, I suppose... But that's because he's blatantly based on Shaka Zulu, like Dougall is based on William Wallace. I think they'd both be awesome, but could use a little work to make them more original.
I'm completely in love with Yrsa and Lucio, though.
I'm completely in love with Yrsa and Lucio, though.
RWB
[10] Knight
Yrsa should be more like this:
Add some fur. She's from the cold north, Fur bikini is not enough.
Also...
NO HORNS ON THE HELMET. AAAAAAARGH. *Is scandinavian*
Add some fur. She's from the cold north, Fur bikini is not enough.
Also...
NO HORNS ON THE HELMET. AAAAAAARGH. *Is scandinavian*
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
Azazel
[12] Conqueror
Not SC material, but still pretty damn cool art of Azazel :D
Lasercakes
[12] Conqueror
Not every character will be tailored to your liking. Sorry to break it to you dude.
They're trying for a wide audience.
Gatsu
[14] Master
Why?
SC is (was?) all about stereotype(the knight,the samurai,the monk... why not the tribal warrior?),nothing wrong with it
On the contrary,i miss it a lot when i see new characters like Natsu or Zwei that seem just kicked out from random anime or jrpg,but don't give me the feeling to belong to some country,tradition or culture
AND
Most important stereotype is'nt necessary offensive.
May become offensive when people want seen it in that way.
SC5 is set in 1600
If i was black i was proud to see some kind of badass tribal warrior,i will not see it as a shame or something "bad".
And is not like if i made him to look "primitive",i do it as a tribute to Shaka Zulu(Africa's most famous warrior/king) that is born in 1787,even AFTER SC5
He's a zulu warrior and he's fucking proud of that, sometimes the problem is in the eye of who watch
Example,i will have the opposite reaction
For my attitude if i was african or anyway black,and they give me a "sophisticated like Lili in Tekken" char with some kind of european background i will find it just offensive,like if there is something wrong or not good enough being a african warrior with african culture
In 1600 (and waaay after) that kind of tribal warrior exist,how can be racist have one of them in SC?
I find racist see in him something wrong
Gatsu
[14] Master
Never ask for that
Is'nt about be tailored for me or for you
A character should not be tailored at all,should just be made to fit at best with SC's style and design
After the peoples should like the game and his characters because is epic well made, not because marketing tailor blowjobbed you
Example,i don't like so much Pyrrah, but nothing to say,since she absolutely fit with the series style
Honest question
This Zwei seem a Soul Calibur character wich represent some kind of tradition/culture/country, OR seem just jumped out from some fantasy BlazeBlue/GuiltyGear/idon'tknow?
Lasercakes
[12] Conqueror
I can agree with this. That's not quite the angle I had in mind though. It's great if Namco makes money, whatever, but I want people to play this game, because it's the game that I'm going to play. If someone is playing the game specifically for a character that I HATE, it's still awesome because that character brought them to the game and it the community gains a player they wouldn't have otherwise.
Gatsu
[14] Master
I get the argument,but characters are'nt infinite
If i must chose between +1 cool fitting well made SC character or +1000 players,i chose hands down the fitting character
If i must chose between +1 cool fitting well made SC character or +1000 players,i chose hands down the fitting character
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
Samurais and Monks exist and potrayed as badass occupations full of respect and honour, African tribals are not, if you were black you would not be proud of it. There aren't even that many great black characters in anime and their games to begin with but there is an overflow with japanese ones. Zas is perfect. Potrayed as a upper class, highly important character of negro heritage of nonstereotype in SC which is why I like him, he isnt a rapper a gangster or a thug like how Japan regularly views black people.
I want another black character but not one people can make fun of or associate negative derogetory slurrs with. Not enough badass black characters visible in anime.
Master_Thespian
Imminent Heel Turn
I'm black and saw no problem with the character. That said, it's never a good idea to say how you would feel or perceive things if you were a member of a group that you aren't. If we can have Bangoo in as a Native American warrior (WE GODDAMN BETTER, NAMCO), then a pre-Zulu African warrior should be fine too. A character can be a part of a tribal society and be treated with respect, and I didn't see anything that indicated that Gatsu's character wasn't.
Gatsu
[14] Master
And who decide this?
Shaka? Great warrior and for theyr age/area background great strategist,he was even nicknamed "the Black Napoleon" by historic.
He reorganized his army too,with epic hard training and his warriors got compared to spartans by who studied theyr life style
I don't see shame here,just warrior pride badasseness,perfect for SC series,waaay more than random no background anime like character
Honestly,don't want sound rude,but if you see something wrong in zulu warriors probably is more a your(and of who think like you) thing than anything, but there is really nothing "wrong" in african tradition/culture,is just different from mine or from yours
RWB
[10] Knight
Shaka Zulu is one of the foremost military geniuses in african history.
If you were african, you'd be proud of it, but if you're afro american, I'm not so sure.
He dressed like this, 200 years AFTER SCV:
Also, warrior monks(at least the japanese) were usually robbers and other criminals who used the sanctity of their temple as a shield.
A character based even remotely on Shaka>>>>>Zasalamel in Badassitude.
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
Go on youtube more often. And I see nothing wrong with what I said, I just feel black people should not be reminded of or represented in that way anymore . Native american warriors are potrayed as great people of wisdom and always are. African tribes are represented as savanah lion hunters who cant say anything more then "Ouyateh!!" or whatever, Im not being racist but there are people who will further opress black people with the sight of the dancing and "rah jah" things. When native american are dancing in media its sophisticated and traditional and we (hopefully) already have bangoo.
Afro americans have that pinned on them as a tool for racism and the argument of mud eating unintelligence. If you were Afro ethnical heritage you would not associate yourself with that, you wouls most likely urbanize yourself and follow the dumb street thug root, if you're young and raised around it. Black people have and further not have found away to embrasse or positivly potray their roots without it turning on them.
I dont want to see that happen again. I would rather another badass black chick at Zasalamel's industral level and sophistication to further bring light into the black people, to show that they have characters to look up to who aren't stereotypes or tools for oppresive comparisons. Also monks are NEVER shown as evil pirates in american media. America is vastly racially ignorant to which they believe samurais cant be honorless thugs or monks cant be pilagers for young women. Its always "Live by the sword, die by the sword" or "follow your heart my child..." etc. Positive things.
Namco would really have to make him appealing and badass to keep people in a positive light on a character like that. Like a mixture of Kilik and Kratos if possible but I doubt Namco cares about this.
Gatsu
[14] Master
So basically
An african warrior in africa with african culture and african tradition is "wrong and offensive", because the western/european/white culture see it as inferior/primitive?
But an "urbanized" african character with western/european/white culture is respectfull, because he fit with the standards of who see as inferior/primitive his tradition/history
Some awesome logic here
An african warrior in africa with african culture and african tradition is "wrong and offensive", because the western/european/white culture see it as inferior/primitive?
But an "urbanized" african character with western/european/white culture is respectfull, because he fit with the standards of who see as inferior/primitive his tradition/history
Some awesome logic here