Soul Calibur 6 Discussion

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JohnMcKee said:
Why choose Raphael over a random CaS face? Or at least change his face a bit (and also another haircut)...

Also, why would Nightmare's new voice actor be the same as Raphael's? And why would they say during interviews that Nightmare's bat theme has a reason? Too many coincidences just to be a rushed character using a random mesh.
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I dunno, really. There is a possibility that those implications over Raph=Night are true. But, as I see it:
1) Why Raph? - Most fitting body type, I guess.
1.2)Why not Seig then? - To make it clear that it's not him this time - we've seen him in role of Night for far too long to ignore how much alike/not they are.
2) Face. - You cannot just "do another face" - you need to create a design for it and then model it, which takes some time and we don't have any.
2.2) Face/hair/eyes - We have mask and helmet - you're not supposed to see those parts of his body anyway, so whatever.
3) Voice actor - money and time restrictions again, let's just "distort" his voice and Night is ready.
Macaulyn said:
No, we are saying that there is a good reason why they used specifically Raphael's model to make Nightmare, and not just copied a random CaS model to put in it. And before you say that CaS models had problems with hitboxes, and blah blah blah, they adjusted somethings in Nightmare's model (like his arm, eyes and mask), so adjusting hitboxes wouldn't be a problem.

Another thing I wanted to ask, what do you guys think about the NPCs from SCIV? You know, those that appeared a hell lot in Story Mode? Is any of them worth adding as their own character?
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4) Adjusting minor visual differences (eyes, mask, even arm) and adjusting technical parameters (hitboxes) - are different things, as the last one needs testing, a lot of it.
 
SomeRandomHuman said:
I dunno, really. There is a possibility that those implications over Raph=Night are true. But, as I see it:
1) Why Raph? - Most fitting body type, I guess.
1.2)Why not Seig then? - To make it clear that it's not him this time - we've seen him in role of Night for far too long to ignore how much alike/not they are.
2) Face. - You cannot just "do another face" - you need to create a design for it and then model it, which takes some time and we don't have any.
2.2) Face/hair/eyes - We have mask and helmet - you're not supposed to see those parts of his body anyway, so whatever.
3) Voice actor - money and time restrictions again, let's just "distort" his voice and Night is ready.

4) Adjusting minor visual differences (eyes, mask, even arm) and adjusting technical parameters (hitboxes) - are different things, as the last one needs testing, a lot of it.
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1) Why his body type fits and not anyone else's?
1.2) If having Siegfried not "sharing his body" with Nightmare makes it clear its not Siegfried, then having Raphael sharing makes it clear its Raphael.
2) Even if the proportions from Raphael to Nightmare were the only reason, they could simply swap his face like in CaS, something that would not require hitbox changes.
2.2) But you do see them. You are allowed to see them in CaS, if they were not to be seeen, you wouldn't be allowed to change them, like you can't with Ezio, Lizardman and Dampierre.
3) What about Graf Dumas' voice? And why not a CaS voice actor? He wouldn't be the first to have his voice in a main character and in CaS, Amy had her voice actress play a CaS voice in SCIV.
4) See number 2.
 
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SomeRandomHuman said:
I dunno, really. There is a possibility that those implications over Raph=Night are true. But, as I see it:
1) Why Raph? - Most fitting body type, I guess.
1.2)Why not Seig then? - To make it clear that it's not him this time - we've seen him in role of Night for far too long to ignore how much alike/not they are.
2) Face. - You cannot just "do another face" - you need to create a design for it and then model it, which takes some time and we don't have any.
2.2) Face/hair/eyes - We have mask and helmet - you're not supposed to see those parts of his body anyway, so whatever.
3) Voice actor - money and time restrictions again, let's just "distort" his voice and Night is ready.

4) Adjusting minor visual differences (eyes, mask, even arm) and adjusting technical parameters (hitboxes) - are different things, as the last one needs testing, a lot of it.
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I agree that this is just a theory, but this... This is plain denial. Macaulyn pretty much summarizes it, furthermore.
1. Why not simply reuse SCIV NM's body type? It's in-game, it's used, and it has nothing to do with Graf Dumas.
1.2. NM hasn't been Siegfried since SCIII, so WHY add a specific body while NM has been "pure energy" for 3 games?
2. Yes you can: smaller lips, wider eyes, smoother jaw... Mesh manipulation doesn't take much time, plus it has no impact whatsoever on gameplay or else.
2.2. Macaulyn said it, CaS mode, plus Graf Dumas is seen with Raphael's hair. Why not use CaS specific haircut then? The design was thought through.
3. Graf Dumas' voice wasn't distorted, and it was played with the tone Raphael uses. Klausmeyer would have changed it if the characters were different.
4. Again, face tweaks do not affect hitboxes. If they had time to create a complete themed armor for NM, changing a haircut and some details of his face would take just a couple of minutes.

Remember the Story mode is just a quarter of what we should have had, so there's a reason why NM is related to Raphael (they said NM had a bat theme for a reason), as much as Sophitia and Elysium are related.

As it wasn't confirmed, I cannot say that Raphael is Nightmare, but I sure cannot say that Raphael isn't Nightmare.
 
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Do you think this tourney is gunna be used to determine who's gunna be in the next game?
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