Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

Saikyo_Ryuu said:
It's because Rock was unpopular and had a story that literally had nowhere to go besides Bangoo.

The REAL issue I have is not Rock being gone, it's nothing ever being done with Bangoo. If anything, Rock should have been killed by Asty in SC1 and then Bangoo could have taken over his role, which would have allowed far more freedom in the creative writing department. Astaroth being around means in both story and gameplay Rock is redundant, considering Astaroth is literally just 'Rock, But Better In Every Way' in both Canon and Gameplay in pretty much EVERY game.
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The issue with Rock can be summed up in three things: appearance, voice and most importantly moveset.

If those three things are addressed, nothing else will matter.

Edit: lol now that i look at what i typed, thats everything. What else is there to a character in a fighting game really?
 
There's nothing wrong with Cass and Sophie sharing the same weapon, Mitsu and Yoshi have the same weapon but you never see any complaints about them being too similar. As long as their playstyles and movesets look very visually distinct there's no issues to be had.
 
tirakai said:
There's nothing wrong with Cass and Sophie sharing the same weapon, Mitsu and Yoshi have the same weapon but you never see any complaints about them being too similar. As long as their playstyles and movesets look very visually distinct there's no issues to be had.
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To be fair, Yoshi's also got a flag and a spinning arm.
 
tirakai said:
There's nothing wrong with Cass and Sophie sharing the same weapon, Mitsu and Yoshi have the same weapon but you never see any complaints about them being too similar. As long as their playstyles and movesets look very visually distinct there's no issues to be had.
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Again what makes a character different is multifaceted and is more than just moves.

Cass: Blond
Sophie: Blond
Cass: Girl
Sophie: Girl
Cass: Greek
Sophie: Greek
Cass + Sophie: Same family
Cass: Small Sword
Sophie: Small Sword
Cass: Small Shield
Sophie: Small Shield

Mitzu and Yoshi: Same weapons and arguably same gender, similarity ends there.

Cass and Sophie need a few less samey boxes checked off in my opinion to differentiate them.
 
I’m kind of anxious about my pre-order from Amazon because it says it may arrive on release but could be delayed when it actually ships. Went with one day shipping as a precaution.
 
Soul Knight said:
at this point, I just wanna know who the 3 DLC characters are. and if Cass is one of them.
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Cassandra looks too new and intricate to not be a season pass character. Idk if her design is a mash-up like the current roster but it's much more blatant than Hwang (who looks reminiscent of SC3). Keep in mind that the Alexandra's are a family of pious bakers. Cassandra is wearing an outfit made for battle and not something more casual like we've seen Sophitia wear in the artworks of previous games. By the time she was introduced in SC2, she was already fighting while Sophitia was an unlockable character. If she wasn't going to join the roster, she'd look much more casual. I think it's a hint.
 
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Crimzin said:
I don't have to tolerate opinions like that, I can and will call them out. People can be disappointed but to say things like "this character is a wasted slot" is pointless negativity. Berserker and Charade aren't real characters, one's a cheap Rock knock-off and the other is a mimic that's only looks cool. What have they got to do with Cassandra? A popular character that's been around since SC2? It's a false equivalency and you know it, otherwise you would have used characters like Yun-seong, or Hilde, or Amy in your argument.

No one's been shoved aside because of Cassandra, she hasn't even been announced. All of this is about art in story mode.
Some of you are going to have to realize that not every character is going to make it in. It's fine to be disappointed, I never said it was a bad thing, but to shit on characters that do make it in is childish.
Some even insult the fans of some characters, I remember the Amy pedophile thing. It's pathetic.
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So according to you, every character deserves a place except when they're not 'real' characters. That doesn't make you any different from people who wouldn't consider a character like Cassandra as a real character because she is just a 'clone' to them. Now you must be thinking 'but I don't call them wasted slots'. That doesn't matter. People are different and their opinions aren't any less valid than yours just because they're negative. My point still stands though, it would be a stupid decision to make any unpopular character DLC, including Rock. Amy, Hilde and Yun-Seong aren't unpopular at all, that's why I didn't mention them. You didn't answer my question, by the way.

tirakai said:
I just automatically skip over any posts that are in ALL CAPS or are weird colours.
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Fine. If you're going to skip posts that are clearly readable for such an asinine reason, then you're not worth my time either. Ignored.
 
Ardenwolf said:
Again what makes a character different is multifaceted and is more than just moves.

Cass: Blond
Sophie: Blond
Cass: Girl
Sophie: Girl
Cass: Greek
Sophie: Greek
Cass + Sophie: Same family
Cass: Small Sword
Sophie: Small Sword
Cass: Small Shield
Sophie: Small Shield

Mitzu and Yoshi: Same weapons and arguably same gender, similarity ends there.

Cass and Sophie need a few less samey boxes checked off in my opinion to differentiate them.
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But by that logic Siegfried and Nightmare shouldn't both have a place on the roster, but even more so considering Nightmare IS Siegfried only under Soul Edge's control. He's litterally the same person physically...

Cass and Sophie are sisters *shrug* I don't see what all the fuss is about. They still have different play styles despite having the same weapons.
 
SpellcraftQuill said:
I’m kind of anxious about my pre-order from Amazon because it says it may arrive on release but could be delayed when it actually ships. Went with one day shipping as a precaution.
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Only game i ever bought through Amazon was SFV. Got it 2 days late with 1 day shipping. Other peeps have never complained though, so don't let my account be the only you judge.
 
Kraft_D said:
But by that logic Siegfried and Nightmare shouldn't both have a place on the roster, but even more so considering Nightmare IS Siegfried only under Soul Edge's control. He's litterally the same person physically...

Cass and Sophie are sisters *shrug* I don't see what all the fuss is about. They still have different play styles despite having the same weapons.
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I agree, Nightmare should be a mimic character that uses Siggy's style while possessing Siggy in plot. This would allow for various plots where different characters become the new Nightmare. Actually scratch that. He should be a special character with a Soul Edge version of every weapon using a nightmare variation of every style.
 
Robert_J_King said:
Cassandra looks too new and intricate to not be a season pass character. Idk if her design is a mash-up like the current roster but it's much more blatant than Hwang (who looks reminiscent of SC3). Keep in mind that the Alexandra's are a family of pious bakers. Cassandra is wearing an outfit made for battle and not something more casual like we've seen Sophitia wear in the artworks of previous games. By the time she was introduced in SC2, she was already fighting while Sophitia was an unlockable character. If she wasn't going to join the roster, she'd look much more casual. I think it's a hint.
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yeah, I hope so too.
 
Ardenwolf said:
I agree, Nightmare should be a mimic character that uses Siggy's style while possessing Siggy in plot. This would allow for various plots where different characters become the new Nightmare. Actually scratch that. He should be a special character with a Soul Edge version of every weapon using a nightmare variation of every style.
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I can forgive Sieg and Nightmare because they're the respective main characters of the series, though i def support post-SCIII NM being decloned. Same applies to Kaz and Hei in TK (though DJ is a waste and should just be a form of Jin like DKaz), as well as Ryu and Ken in SF.
 
Kraft_D said:
But by that logic Siegfried and Nightmare shouldn't both have a place on the roster, but even more so considering Nightmare IS Siegfried only under Soul Edge's control. He's litterally the same person physically...

Cass and Sophie are sisters *shrug* I don't see what all the fuss is about. They still have different play styles despite having the same weapons.
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Under that same logic Amy, which happens to be that dudes profile picture, should be changed because lets face it the only difference between Raph and Amy are gender and a few moves. luckily for us she was changed in SC 5 assuming Amy was Viola, but UGHHH thinking about Viola and how her play style was in SC 5 triggers my PTSD in online matches. unless they change how Viola was in SC5, i dont want to see her ever again!

Sponsored by: IMHO cus my opinion matters to me, you dont need to care what i think but you can make an opinion about my opinion.
 
The Turbanator said:
I can forgive Sieg and Nightmare because they're the respective main characters of the series, though i def support post-SCIII NM being decloned. Same applies to Kaz and Hei in TK (though DJ is a waste and should just be a form of Jin like DKaz), as well as Ryu and Ken in SF.
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My point is conceptually what nightmare as a character is, is someone possessed by soul edge, as such it makes more sense to build that skeleton. It would open up the plot to a better story than Siggy getting repossessed over and over again in future installments.
 
It's not quite Friday for everyone yet (especially you yanks) but here in the UK it's 4:23am and since it's the month of horror, I decided to make a bonus video for my (extraordinarily dumb) countdown series:

I'll post the regularly scheduled one when I rise from my pit tomorrow afternoon.
 
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