Soul Calibur VI: General discussion

You can’t deny the value of guests. Many people got into SC2 because of guests. I think if they help increase the fan base than why not. Makes me think though, if they did have a dlc character, a GoT character would be cool especially considering their last season is in 2019.
 
Apoc Revolution said:
I wouldn't call Ivy as a character broken, but I don't necessarily need to have played the game to realise that 2A+G is ridiculously strong right now. A move that grabs from afar with fast recovery, wallsplat & ring out properties, being able to be cancelled to bait GI's and without costing any meter is already very strong. When you add tracking on top of that, it makes the move broken. Characters sidestep even before Ivy uses 2A+G and they still get hit, I've seen it in gameplay videos. Let's just call it what it is; bullshit. It's perhaps the most blatant example of a low risk-high reward move I've seen in a SC game. This is my own opinion. If it wouldn't track, I would have far less issues with it.
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2A+G doesn't really look that scary to me. It tracks? Fine. It would be useless if it didn't, since people are literally always moving. It has a really big windup and if you just train yourself to block when you see it, you can just quickly crouch as soon as the rings appear. I have no idea why anyone would attempt to GI something like that. I'm not really interested in speculating too much though, I'd like to experience it myself and come to my own conclusion about it. Anyone else is free to be a crybaby, but I'd like to see where that move stands once the game is out.
 
Von_Blackhardt said:
2A+G doesn't really look that scary to me. It tracks? Fine. It would be useless if it didn't, since people are literally always moving. It has a really big windup and if you just train yourself to block when you see it, you can just quickly crouch as soon as the rings appear. I have no idea why anyone would attempt to GI something like that. I'm not really interested in speculating too much though, I'd like to experience it myself and come to my own conclusion about it. Anyone else is free to be a crybaby, but I'd like to see where that move stands once the game is out.
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It wouldn't be useless if it didn't track because Ivy already has strong horizontals. You can train yourself to block low, but I imagine it would be difficult to block if you're already sidestepping or if there is lag. Crouching doesn't happen instantly so there is nothing you can do if the frames aren't fast enough, even if you've already reacted to it. Unlike most regular throws, you can't break it. A really big windup? That's an exaggeration. It may be reactable, but it's not slow. You can GI to eliminate the 2B+K/2A+G mixup although it's risky since she can cancel it. Fine, it's your choice to wait until the game is released before forming judgements, but you shouldn't call people crybabies if they have valid complaints.
 
Assassinate said:
You can’t deny the value of guests. Many people got into SC2 because of guests. I think if they help increase the fan base than why not. Makes me think though, if they did have a dlc character, a GoT character would be cool especially considering their last season is in 2019.
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I think the problem with a Game of Thrones character being a guest is the lack of weapon variety. The majority of them just use standard longswords which could wind up in them just being a watered down Geralt. And while Arya has a rapier rather than a longsword, that brings some of its own issues. Like if both Raph and Amy are in, then she'll be far too similar to the both of them, or if she's in instead of one or both of them, that could cause some significant outrage.
Design-wise, a Game of Thrones character would be a solid addition, but as far as their fighting style goes, I feel like whoever it is would leave a lot to be desired.
 
The main issue is that there's little magic in Game of Thrones, and the ones who use it are either not iconic or non-combatants. That makes it hard to make a good moveset out of a GoT guest.
 
Arya Stark to me seems like she’d have an interesting moveset combining X and Raph with some Taki.

Jon Snow (whose more likely) would be some kind of Stand user with Ghost.

Didn’t Jaime’s actor make a statement on Twitter regarding a GoT guest sometime before Geralt’s reveal?
 
mokamoka827 said:
I think the problem with a Game of Thrones character being a guest is the lack of weapon variety. The majority of them just use standard longswords which could wind up in them just being a watered down Geralt. And while Arya has a rapier rather than a longsword, that brings some of its own issues. Like if both Raph and Amy are in, then she'll be far too similar to the both of them, or if she's in instead of one or both of them, that could cause some significant outrage.
Design-wise, a Game of Thrones character would be a solid addition, but as far as their fighting style goes, I feel like whoever it is would leave a lot to be desired.
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Honestly, I was thinking they could reuse Darth Vader style for someone like Jon Snow and though he would have a similar style, the cost and time for the soul team to remake a unique character would be cut by a lot. I personally don’t care about guests anyways, I agree that guests are there to appeal to other audiences. People who like sc characters already have a lot of choices to pick from.
 
I'd like to see Jaime Lannister actually, because I think he could have a unique gimmick with his usage of the metal hand. What I'm feeling is that he could have moves with aGI properties baked into attacks if you hold the button, a bit like Xianghua, where he raises the hand, and also transitional stances to enter with aGI. The aGIs after attacks would catch the opponent weapon if hit successfully and transition into unique throws as they're more risky and therefore should have more reward, whereas the stance aGIs would allow him to uniquely use the blue Pull guard impacts from SC2, 3 and 4, with his moves being built around punishing after this.
 
Also think it’d be cool to get Spawn’s style revisited for a single, smaller axe. I doubt Rock could use it though.

And wouldn’t mind Viola’s and Heihachi’s styles for CaS too now that I think of it.
 
Concerning GoT, as was stated it is difficult.to make a moveset out of any of them. There just isnt enough combat related abilities to make something significant out of anyone.

If Jon relied more heavily on Ghost throughout the show as a form of backup then i would say sure, he works with a pet wolf for a game mechanic. Or if he were the warg and had a crow or something.

Now i think the Night King could work. They would have to take some liberties with his abilities and give him some frost related attacks, maybe a couple, slow moving zombiez can show up from the sides or whatever. Javalin throwing stuff. They coulf use some fire attacks from the dragon. Obviously i realize stuff like this needs to done a certain way otherwise he is too ridiculous and broken. Like for example the fire just needs to show up in controlled streams from off screen, or maybe a tail swipe. We cant have the whole dragon on screen, or have him able to attack while any minion can as well. But the point is if the devs approach these abilities in a certain way, i think Night King could work and be very interesting.
 
Von_Blackhardt said:
2A+G doesn't really look that scary to me. It tracks? Fine. It would be useless if it didn't, since people are literally always moving. It has a really big windup and if you just train yourself to block when you see it, you can just quickly crouch as soon as the rings appear. I have no idea why anyone would attempt to GI something like that.
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Easy to say while just watching it. I bet everyone who got RO'ed by it in a video thought the same thing.

I'm not really interested in speculating too much though, I'd like to experience it myself and come to my own conclusion about it. Anyone else is free to be a crybaby, but I'd like to see where that move stands once the game is out.
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Seems like you came to your own conclusion already.
 
I get wanting to draw in the lowest common denominator but holy shit, a GoT guest would be even more shameless than putting Darth Vader on IV's cover.
 
I want Black Panther as Soul Calibur VI guest. A marvel crossover would be cool. They would have like a more physical based moveset compared to other characters.
 
I think that GoT has the opposite problem of Bayonetta/2B. Character from it would be too "normal" for SC.
I think the perfect fit would be a character from
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series. For particulary popular and relatively unique it could be Archer (EMIYA) using his short twinswords (and his bow as a stance). His SC could be Overedge. CE could be Triple-Linked Crane Wings (not Unlimited Blade Works, as it would probably take too much resources to do) and for for bow Broken Phantasm: Caladbolg.
 
Marginal said:
Easy to say while just watching it. I bet everyone who got RO'ed by it in a video thought the same thing.

Seems like you came to your own conclusion already.
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Such a wild concept that even pro players aren't fully atuned to a game that isn't out yet. Literally the only person whose take I would even consider is Party Wolf. Has he said anything about the move?
 
Von_Blackhardt said:
Such a wild concept that even pro players aren't fully atuned to a game that isn't out yet. Literally the only person whose take I would even consider is Party Wolf. Has he said anything about the move?
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As someone who has played the game, I can say it's very annoying. I was thinking similar things when I was watching Link getting ready to play. In reality, it's rather fast, and you have other moves to worry about coming at you at the same time.

As for Party Wolf, he said he'd like it removed from the game entirely in the podcast with Xephukai IIRC. Or you can just go read his posts on the thread about this particular move.

https://8wayrun.com/threads/game-br...k-and-2a-g-but-require-different-guard.20161/
 
Marginal said:
As someone who has played the game, I can say it's very annoying. I was thinking similar things when I was watching Link getting ready to play. In reality, it's rather fast, and you have other moves to worry about coming at you at the same time.

As for Party Wolf, he said he'd like it removed from the game entirely in the podcast with Xephukai IIRC. Or you can just go read his posts on the thread about this particular move.

https://8wayrun.com/threads/game-br...k-and-2a-g-but-require-different-guard.20161/
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That's fair.
 
Assassinate said:
You can’t deny the value of guests. Many people got into SC2 because of guests. I think if they help increase the fan base than why not. Makes me think though, if they did have a dlc character, a GoT character would be cool especially considering their last season is in 2019.
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Oh yeah many people that constantly keep asking for Lonk again and again to be back in every new SoulCalibur xD they don't care about SoulCalibur they only care about Loooonk xD
 
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